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expiredpirezza posted Jul 17, 2023 09:22 AM
Amex Hilton Honors Business Credit Card 150K Points + Free Night Reward $95
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American Express [americanexpress.com] has the Hilton Honors American Express Business Card with Earn 150,000 Hilton Honors Bonus Points + a Free Night Reward after you spend $4,000 on eligible purchases with your Card in the first 3 months. Annual fee of $95 is not waived the first year.
Card benefits:
- 12X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at Hilton
- 6X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at U.S. gas stations, shipping providers, and wireless phone services purchased directly from service providers
- 6X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at U.S. restaurants, flights, and car rentals
- 3X Hilton Honors Bonus Points on other purchases
Plus
- Complimentary Hilton Honors Gold Status
- Earn a Free Night Reward from Hilton Honors after you spend $15,000 in a calendar year
- Earn a second Night Reward from Hilton Honors after you spend $60,000 in a calendar year
- Priority Pass™ Select 10 Complimentary Visits
- Upgrade to Hilton Honors™ Diamond Status after $40,000 on eligible purchases
Offer Ends 7/19/2023
https://www.americanexp
Card benefits:
- 12X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at Hilton
- 6X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at U.S. gas stations, shipping providers, and wireless phone services purchased directly from service providers
- 6X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at U.S. restaurants, flights, and car rentals
- 3X Hilton Honors Bonus Points on other purchases
Plus
- Complimentary Hilton Honors Gold Status
- Earn a Free Night Reward from Hilton Honors after you spend $15,000 in a calendar year
- Earn a second Night Reward from Hilton Honors after you spend $60,000 in a calendar year
- Priority Pass™ Select 10 Complimentary Visits
- Upgrade to Hilton Honors™ Diamond Status after $40,000 on eligible purchases
Offer Ends 7/19/2023
https://www.americanexp
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American Express [americanexpress.com] has the Hilton Honors American Express Business Card with Earn 150,000 Hilton Honors Bonus Points + a Free Night Reward after you spend $4,000 on eligible purchases with your Card in the first 3 months. Annual fee of $95 is not waived the first year.
Card benefits:
- 12X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at Hilton
- 6X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at U.S. gas stations, shipping providers, and wireless phone services purchased directly from service providers
- 6X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at U.S. restaurants, flights, and car rentals
- 3X Hilton Honors Bonus Points on other purchases
Plus
- Complimentary Hilton Honors Gold Status
- Earn a Free Night Reward from Hilton Honors after you spend $15,000 in a calendar year
- Earn a second Night Reward from Hilton Honors after you spend $60,000 in a calendar year
- Priority Pass™ Select 10 Complimentary Visits
- Upgrade to Hilton Honors™ Diamond Status after $40,000 on eligible purchases
Offer Ends 7/19/2023
https://www.americanexp
Card benefits:
- 12X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at Hilton
- 6X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at U.S. gas stations, shipping providers, and wireless phone services purchased directly from service providers
- 6X Hilton Honors Bonus Points at U.S. restaurants, flights, and car rentals
- 3X Hilton Honors Bonus Points on other purchases
Plus
- Complimentary Hilton Honors Gold Status
- Earn a Free Night Reward from Hilton Honors after you spend $15,000 in a calendar year
- Earn a second Night Reward from Hilton Honors after you spend $60,000 in a calendar year
- Priority Pass™ Select 10 Complimentary Visits
- Upgrade to Hilton Honors™ Diamond Status after $40,000 on eligible purchases
Offer Ends 7/19/2023
https://www.americanexp
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Or about 750+/- dollars worth of hotel bookings instead.
Clearly you are better off actually using the points to book hotel stays.
Plus if you can get 5th night free then you get even more value out of booking with points.
Amex signups are once per lifetime, so it's almost never worth taking an inferior offer unless you're just entirely out of other options and have major spend coming.
In addition, they frequently send out offers without the lifetime language. I was just approved today for a Business Gold 100k offer even though I've already had this card and closed that account in April 2022.
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I mean, not incorrect, since that's Amex stated policy---once per lifetime.
There's been anecdotal evidence "lifetime" resets every 7 years- yours would be the first time I'm hearing 5-- do you have a citation for that actually being the policy now?
In addition, they frequently send out offers without the lifetime language. I was just approved today for a Business Gold 100k offer even though I've already had this card and closed that account in April 2022.
I've had Amex cards for over a decade and gotten ONE no lifetime language mailer in that time (biz platinum)....so I think your use of "frequently" might also be overstating things.... (you can find no-lifetime-language links for delta amex cards moderately often too but delta points are kinda garbage)
Also the no-lifetimes are also routinely worse than the better never-had-before offers- hence why you always want to wait for the best-ever offer before using up your never-had-before slot.... for example you got 100 biz gold, while never-had-it-before folks can sign up for 180k (some even getting 190k)
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I mean, not incorrect, since that's Amex stated policy---once per lifetime.
There's been anecdotal evidence "lifetime" resets every 7 years- yours would be the first time I'm hearing 5-- do you have a citation for that actually being the policy now?
I've had Amex cards for over a decade and gotten ONE no lifetime language mailer in that time (biz platinum)....so I think your use of "frequently" might also be overstating things.... (you can find no-lifetime-language links for delta amex cards moderately often too but delta points are kinda garbage)
Also the no-lifetimes are also routinely worse than the better never-had-before offers- hence why you always want to wait for the best-ever offer before using up your never-had-before slot.... for example you got 100 biz gold, while never-had-it-before folks can sign up for 180k (some even getting 190k)
Regarding "frequently".... well I've had (2) Plat cards within a five year period. (2) Biz Plat within a three year period. (3) Gold Personals 2016, 2017 then again in 2020. And (3) Gold Biz cards opened in 2015, 2021 and now 2023. I keep the DL Plat and Hilton Aspire open because of the annual benefits otherwise I bet I'd have more data points on those too.
My latest Gold offer was 100k for $10k spend in six months instead of the usual three. Also no additional cardmember needed to get the full 100k. I anticipate a minimum of one offer for authorized cardholder for another 10k points for $1 or 2k spend to popup on my AmEx offers in the next few months. So 110k points for $12k spend on the third churn is good enough for me.
Because once per lifetime is Amex official policy.
7 years is how long things typically stay on a credit report, which is why that's usually reported by blogs as you suggest as what a "lifetime" is.
But none of that changes the original point I was making- which is that you should not, if you've never had that specific card, accept a lower-than-usual signup bonus, since you are locking yourself out of the better bonus for (at least) many years,
7 years is how long things typically stay on a credit report, which is why that's usually reported by blogs as you suggest as what a "lifetime" is.
But none of that changes the original point I was making- which is that you should not, if you've never had that specific card, accept a lower-than-usual signup bonus, since you are locking yourself out of the better bonus for (at least) many years,
Another point the newbs need to be made aware of when considering adding an AmEx card to their portfolio is the max of five open AmEx cards per person; regardless of personal/biz. And they need to know the difference between an AmEx credit and AmEx charge card and how that factors into the max of five cards.
Regarding the original point, absolutely agree with that.
Just for clarity for those newbs---- it's max of 5 Amex credit cards open at the same time.
So charge cards don't count against your max of 5 credit cards...
To my knowledge the cap on CHARGE cards is 10.... (and you'd need multiples of the business cards to hit that since there's not that many charge cards anymore from Amex)
The 5 credit card limit is actually an active blocker for me right now, as my BBP and AED are keeper cards for spend/offers, as are my Aspire and Brilliant for their respective credits/benefits, leaving me just one free "credit" slot with Amex that I have to rotate 1 new card into each year (currently Hilton biz card, which replaced a BCP)... though barring non-lifetime offers I've already been through most of the non-delta credit card SUBs anyway.
So charge cards don't count against your max of 5 credit cards...
To my knowledge the cap on CHARGE cards is 10.... (and you'd need multiples of the business cards to hit that since there's not that many charge cards anymore from Amex)
The 5 credit card limit is actually an active blocker for me right now, as my BBP and AED are keeper cards for spend/offers, as are my Aspire and Brilliant for their respective credits/benefits, leaving me just one free "credit" slot with Amex that I have to rotate 1 new card into each year (currently Hilton biz card, which replaced a BCP)... though barring non-lifetime offers I've already been through most of the non-delta credit card SUBs anyway.
I'm also capped with the five right now. Waiting for the 12 month mark to hit on my Bonvoy Biz card so I can close it then get me under the five. This is another point for newbs - do NOT close an AmEx card until the annual fee posts around the 12 month mark. if you don't like their retention offer then you can close it and get that AF reversed. Closing it prior to 12 months could alert the RAT squad and result in a clawback.
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It'd still be challenging to get to 10 this way (and financially kind of dumb unless you can squeeze a LOT of value out of the coupon book these cards have become relative to their annual fees), but theoretically possible I guess?
Indeed that's why that otherwise useless hilton biz card is still open, don't want a SUB clawback and I don't hit 12 months till March.... (which is also when I drop under 5/24 for Chase cards so probably the IHG biz will be first on my list before whatever Amex has around)
No Amex marriot biz in the cards for me though as I've already got the Chase one and you can't have both... (and the chase one is the same free annual night for a lower annual fee)
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