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32GB (2x16GB) Mushkin Enhanced Redline Stiletto DDR4 3600 CL16 Desktop Memory Expired

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Newegg has 32GB (2x 16GB) Mushkin Enhanced Redline Stiletto DDR4 3600 Desktop Memory (MRF4U360GKKP16GX2) on sale for $62.99 - $3 with coupon code BTSCUA893 = $59.99. Shipping is free.

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Key Specs:
  • DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
  • Timing 16-19-19-39
  • CAS Latency 16
  • Voltage 1.40V

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Newegg [newegg.com] has 32GB (2 x 16GB) Mushkin Enhanced Redline Stiletto DDR4 3600 Desktop Memory (MRF4U360GKKP16GX2) on sale for $62.99 - $3 off when you use coupon code BTSCUA893 at checkout = $59.99. Shipping is free.

Additional information from product page:
  • DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
  • Timing 16-19-19-39
  • CAS Latency 16
  • Voltage 1.40V
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I can confirm, I did buy the same kit and it's running good so far.

The only issue I did run into was that I was not aware that with some motherboards when switching out ram to a new kit, you might want to boot into the bios with one stick of the new ram first. Then adjust the settings to the new ram and reboot. Then you can add your second stick of ram.
I kept getting an endless boot cycle with no picture, when I first used both sticks of the new ram. So if you do run into any issues like this, turn your PC off and try the suggestion I mentioned above.
Absolutely not worth an upgrade. You would have to try very, very hard to see a difference between the two. This could be 4000mhz CL14 and you still wouldn't notice the "upgrade". RAM is probably the single most common component that people overspend on for absolutely no reason.

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obijeewhyen
07-20-2023 at 01:25 PM.
07-20-2023 at 01:25 PM.
Is this low profile? I'm looking to upgrade from 2x8GB Corsair LPX sticks
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Defiant_1775
07-20-2023 at 05:11 PM.
07-20-2023 at 05:11 PM.
Quote from obijeewhyen :
Is this low profile? I'm looking to upgrade from 2x8GB Corsair LPX sticks
Yes they are low profile. I had the LPX before and they are about the same height as the LPX. I don't remember which one is taller though. I do know that both LPX and this one were the only sticks of RAM that I have found that fit under my Arctic 280mm AIO. As the Artic AIO comes with a thick radiator that depending on your case won't allow for all types of ram to be used.
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greatwolf
07-20-2023 at 07:34 PM.
07-20-2023 at 07:34 PM.
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The memory controller on the motherboards can't handle it unless you get a 500$ board
isn't the memory controller on the cpu itself? I don't recall memory controller being on the motherboard ever since they did away with the northbridge chipset leaving only the southbridge.
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07-20-2023 at 07:46 PM.
07-20-2023 at 07:46 PM.
Quote from greatwolf :
isn't the memory controller on the cpu itself? I don't recall memory controller being on the motherboard ever since they did away with the northbridge chipset leaving only the southbridge.

Well it's something on the motherboard that can't handle any decent OC on the ram once your go beyond two sticks, you should watch a good ol gamer video on it.
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07-20-2023 at 10:59 PM.
07-20-2023 at 10:59 PM.
Quote from juanjohnson :
I agree that this kit wouldn't really be an upgrade. But ryzen 5000 likes faster ram and 3200 is quite slow. 3600 Cl 14 would be a good bump, Maybe even a 10% boost.
3200mhz is not quite slow. It's the officially suggested speed on Ryzen 5. 3600 is considered the "sweet spot", for maybe a 2FPS gain. If your processor can even reach 2,000Mhz FCLK, and many cannot, then 4000mhz is better for potentially (not commonly) 4-5FPS at best. These increases are assuming you're running top of the line CPU and GPU and making well north of 100 FPS to start with.

10% is so far out of the realm of possibility that I question where you're getting your info from. You're right that Ryzen likes "faster" RAM, as you'll see maybe a 5% decrease (from 3200) by running 2133mhz, the slowest you can get. Moving (or rather, initially choosing, since I still wouldn't say it's worth the money compared to other upgrades) from 2133 or 2666 to 3200+ makes sense. If you already have 3200, there are zero scenarios where it would be worth spending money on faster DDR4, outside of being a benchmark enthusiast who is going to be overclocking the RAM and FCLK, tweaking voltages, tightening timings, etc. so that obscure numbers on a bar graph get marginally higher.

At this stage of the game, forget DDR4 "upgrades". Put your $60 in a jar and save it for the actual upgrade to an AM5 system with DDR5. Then you might actually see a difference if you're running a raytraced game that actually cares about memory bandwidth.
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07-22-2023 at 07:16 AM.
07-22-2023 at 07:16 AM.
Quote from SlickDanTheDealer :
3200mhz is not quite slow. It's the officially suggested speed on Ryzen 5. 3600 is considered the "sweet spot", for maybe a 2FPS gain. If your processor can even reach 2,000Mhz FCLK, and many cannot, then 4000mhz is better for potentially (not commonly) 4-5FPS at best. These increases are assuming you're running top of the line CPU and GPU and making well north of 100 FPS to start with.

10% is so far out of the realm of possibility that I question where you're getting your info from. You're right that Ryzen likes "faster" RAM, as you'll see maybe a 5% decrease (from 3200) by running 2133mhz, the slowest you can get. Moving (or rather, initially choosing, since I still wouldn't say it's worth the money compared to other upgrades) from 2133 or 2666 to 3200+ makes sense. If you already have 3200, there are zero scenarios where it would be worth spending money on faster DDR4, outside of being a benchmark enthusiast who is going to be overclocking the RAM and FCLK, tweaking voltages, tightening timings, etc. so that obscure numbers on a bar graph get marginally higher.

At this stage of the game, forget DDR4 "upgrades". Put your $60 in a jar and save it for the actual upgrade to an AM5 system with DDR5. Then you might actually see a difference if you're running a raytraced game that actually cares about memory bandwidth.

I think your information is off about DDR4 speeds and 3rd gen Ryzen(5000series).

The infinity fabric sweet spot is 3600 CL16 per AMD. 3200 is fine, but is best at cl14.

Gamers Nexus did a video on this that showed there should be around a 10% FPS gain for most titles moving from CL16 3200 to CL16 3600. The corresponding article is linked below.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guide...ock-mclock

To me, spending $60 to gain 10% FPS which could save you a year before upgrading is a no brainer.
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Gb1908
07-23-2023 at 04:18 AM.
07-23-2023 at 04:18 AM.
32gb is nice, but would like to see 64gb become the norm on ddr5 with much lower latency and higher speed before it gets to prime time
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IndigoPassenger901
07-23-2023 at 02:07 PM.
07-23-2023 at 02:07 PM.
Mushkin seems to provide good value a the price. Matter a fact, best price I've seen for CL16 32gb. Wonder if people would run into stability issues with these at spec'd OC speed. This brand is not even on the QVL list for Intel K processor for MSI Z690 DDR4.

Anybody know what die is inside?

Has anybody had issues with XMP profiles?

I find that 32GB should be the minimum today. Not 16 like some people would suggest.
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07-23-2023 at 02:13 PM.
07-23-2023 at 02:13 PM.
Quote from greatwolf :
isn't the memory controller on the cpu itself? I don't recall memory controller being on the motherboard ever since they did away with the northbridge chipset leaving only the southbridge.
This is correct, it's in the CPU. I suggest all to look into the mobo's QVL list if not the type to spend gobs of time trying to adjust the, frequency, timing and voltages. Save yourselves the headache if you don't like to learn/tweak stuff, which is time consuming.
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07-23-2023 at 02:19 PM.
07-23-2023 at 02:19 PM.
Anyone use these with a pair of crucial ballistix 3600 c16 as well? Since it's discontinued now, I can't find it for a good price anymore, but I'm guessing if I get these I have to undervolt it to 1.35v. Looking to go from 32gb to 64gb.
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Defiant_1775
07-27-2023 at 09:28 AM.
07-27-2023 at 09:28 AM.
Quote from IndigoPassenger901 :
Mushkin seems to provide good value a the price. Matter a fact, best price I've seen for CL16 32gb. Wonder if people would run into stability issues with these at spec'd OC speed. This brand is not even on the QVL list for Intel K processor for MSI Z690 DDR4.

Anybody know what die is inside?

Has anybody had issues with XMP profiles?

I find that 32GB should be the minimum today. Not 16 like some people would suggest.
I haven't had any issues running it with the XMP profiles.
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07-27-2023 at 11:34 AM.
07-27-2023 at 11:34 AM.
Kit received is NOT dual rank.
XMP recognized in a MSI z690-a pro wifi ddr4 with 12700k and latest bios. Very low profile fits under peerless assassin (non-se). The single stick initial boot method worked first try. Running the pair at 1.35v at 1t all other settings xmp with no errors so far on memtest86. considering the 64g redline kit for $40 more to hopefully get dual rank.. doesn't really matter much on intel but hey it's part of the joy of building a desktop.
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