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frontpagechunmanc123 posted Aug 07, 2023 04:53 AM
frontpagechunmanc123 posted Aug 07, 2023 04:53 AM

U.S. Treasury: Short Term Treasury Bills (4-Week-52-Week Maturity) Up to

5.50% Interest

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Note: Rates are subject to change daily; rates are the daily secondary market quotations on the most recently auctioned Treasury Bills for each maturity tranche (4-week, 8-week, 13-week, 17-week, 26-week, and 52-week) for which Treasury currently issues new bills. Up to Date Rates can be found here (scroll to bottom of list)

U.S. Government Treasury is offering Up to 5.499% Coupon Rate (Interest Rate) on Short Term Treasury Bills which can be Purchased for a Duration of 4-Weeks-52 Weeks Maturity.

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Note, if interested, you may choose to purchase Treasury Bills through your preferred Brokerage Firm

Example Current Rates (8/9/23): (Coupon Rates [Interest Rates] change daily):
  • 13-Week Maturity: 5.451%
  • 26-Week Maturity: 5.499%
  • 52-Week Maturity: 5.351%

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Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • Interest paid: When the bill matures
    • Minimum purchase : $100
    • In increments of: $100
    • Maximum purchase: $10 million (non-competitive bid)
    • Auction frequency:
      • Every four weeks for 52-week bills
      • Weekly for 4, 8, 13, 17, 26-week bills
      • No regular schedule for Cash Management Bills
      • See the Auction calendar for specific date
      • More Info
    • Taxes: Federal tax due on interest earned. No state or local taxes
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this offer. -slickdewmaster

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Written by chunmanc123
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Note: Rates are subject to change daily; rates are the daily secondary market quotations on the most recently auctioned Treasury Bills for each maturity tranche (4-week, 8-week, 13-week, 17-week, 26-week, and 52-week) for which Treasury currently issues new bills. Up to Date Rates can be found here (scroll to bottom of list)

U.S. Government Treasury is offering Up to 5.499% Coupon Rate (Interest Rate) on Short Term Treasury Bills which can be Purchased for a Duration of 4-Weeks-52 Weeks Maturity.

Thanks community member chunmanc123 for sharing this deal

Note, if interested, you may choose to purchase Treasury Bills through your preferred Brokerage Firm

Example Current Rates (8/9/23): (Coupon Rates [Interest Rates] change daily):
  • 13-Week Maturity: 5.451%
  • 26-Week Maturity: 5.499%
  • 52-Week Maturity: 5.351%

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • Interest paid: When the bill matures
    • Minimum purchase : $100
    • In increments of: $100
    • Maximum purchase: $10 million (non-competitive bid)
    • Auction frequency:
      • Every four weeks for 52-week bills
      • Weekly for 4, 8, 13, 17, 26-week bills
      • No regular schedule for Cash Management Bills
      • See the Auction calendar for specific date
      • More Info
    • Taxes: Federal tax due on interest earned. No state or local taxes
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this offer. -slickdewmaster

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OliveFlag247
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To clarify...

Treasury BILLS are currently paying over 5% for various maturity lengths under 1 year. These can be bought through most brokerages even without a TreasuryDirect account.

Treasury BONDS are paying 4% or less and have 20 or 30 year terms.
if200
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Have learned so much on this site so am trying to return the favor with what I've learned that I don't see anyone else talking about.

The 4 week bill ordering opens tomorrow 8/8, the deadline to buy it is sometime Thursday 8/10 morning depending on where you are buying it and it settles on 8/15.

On TD Ameritrade, they take your money on the 10th (take it out of the money you can trade with when you hit purchase which can be as early as the 8th) and buy the bill on the 15th during time which you earn no interest. Thus the reason that I stopped buying 4 and 8 week bills at auction. Secondary markets settle the next day so often a better deal. Treasury direct does not take the money from your bank account till the day it settles and Vanguard keeps it in the settlement fund earning interest till the day it settles as well. Not sure about the other brokerage houses. Also, not sure if you rollover the t-bills how the time between redemption and the next auction works as far as any interest you are losing as that is often a week of interest as well.

FYI, if you do the math, 4 weeks for $10,000 usually gets you about $40 in interest for letting them hold your money for 5 weeks.

The Monday auctions for 3 months and six months settle on Thursday so much less time to hold your money for nothing and less redemption downtime.

The money market funds often have repurchase agreements that are taxed at the state and local level but obviously more liquid. Am looking into the ETFs now.

Good luck to everyone!
oonchie
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I'd recommend searching for diamondnestegg on youtube. She has a bunch of very useful videos on how to purchase and where explaining step by step on how to do it.

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Aug 09, 2023 10:13 AM
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dshanabrook2Aug 09, 2023 10:13 AM
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Quote from EagerCalculator413 :
Can I cancel auto-roll at any point on TreasuryDirect? For eg, I get 4 week TBill with 4 auto-roll but need money 12 weeks in. Can I stop after the 2nd auto-roll?
Yes you can cancel auto-roll
Aug 09, 2023 10:16 AM
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iahawks550Aug 09, 2023 10:16 AM
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Quote from redelmo :
what happened to 9.01%?
9.62%
Aug 09, 2023 10:25 AM
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LanmannaAug 09, 2023 10:25 AM
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Quote from AmusedPanther530 :
I remember that time I found where all the rich people plot world domination and the enslavement of 99% of humanity.

Afterwards I made a sandwich.
This is crucial: what kind of sandwich?
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Aug 09, 2023 10:26 AM
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LanmannaAug 09, 2023 10:26 AM
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Quote from RedElmo :
What happened to 9.01%?
Are you thinking of series I bonds? That was 9.62%.

This post is in reference to t-bills.
Last edited by Lanmanna August 9, 2023 at 04:35 AM.
Aug 09, 2023 10:34 AM
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LanmannaAug 09, 2023 10:34 AM
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Quote from iahawks550 :
9.62%
Did you purchase bonds then? I loved getting that rate. My rate is below 4% now. ☹️ I'll probably pull out in October.
Aug 09, 2023 11:07 AM
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Fellblade16Aug 09, 2023 11:07 AM
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Quote from Lanmanna :
Did you purchase bonds then? I loved getting that rate. My rate is below 4% now. ☹️ I'll probably pull out in October.
The rate is now 4.3%. 4.3% is above 4%.
Aug 09, 2023 12:55 PM
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NoSleep007Aug 09, 2023 12:55 PM
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On fidelity/Schwab you have buy at least ,$1000 tbills and can auto roll, meaning reinvest

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Aug 09, 2023 01:00 PM
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DogAndPonyAug 09, 2023 01:00 PM
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Quote from wallykid :
Yes you can auto roll, you can also state how many times you want to roll.
Well that's good to know, thanks. Still, for me, I don't see the purpose. Treasury Direct, I can only buy treasuries. I can buy a any number of different investments with Fidelity, including t bills at auction at no additional cost.
Aug 09, 2023 01:19 PM
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blahbooboo2Aug 09, 2023 01:19 PM
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Quote from NoSleep007 :
On fidelity/Schwab you have buy at least ,$1000 tbills and can auto roll, meaning reinvest
Schwab holds your money for a week after maturity where you don't earn any interest but Schwab gets to use it for free! And for purchase both take the money instantly out of your account and not the day of the actual auction (again no interest)
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shahhereAug 09, 2023 01:32 PM
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Quote from blahbooboo2 :
Schwab holds your money for a week after maturity where you don't earn any interest but Schwab gets to use it for free! And for purchase both take the money instantly out of your account and not the day of the actual auction (again no interest)

Here is a good video about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTDUOOVZ5pQ&t=1s


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akshaysakaAug 09, 2023 01:33 PM
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Quote from poohbie :
I never could figure out what the equivalent yield was from those ETFs so just went with a money market fund in which NAV is pegged at $1 and the 7 day yield is advertised.
Wouldn't buying an etf mean you have to pay state taxes, too?
Aug 09, 2023 01:38 PM
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luky29Aug 09, 2023 01:38 PM
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Quote from DogAndPony :
I buy t bills on Fidelity and use auto roll, which works just as well. TreasuryDirect is terrible though, yes.
Love Fidelity also, so easy and you can cancel the auto roll at any time. Been using it since last year.
Aug 09, 2023 02:15 PM
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blahbooboo2Aug 09, 2023 02:15 PM
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Quote from akshaysaka :
Wouldn't buying an etf mean you have to pay state taxes, too?
Yes. This has been asked and answered a dozen times or so in this thread. Plus it's in the first post
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02nzAug 09, 2023 02:16 PM
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Quote from ToadKilla :
I can tell you why. people googled SGOV returns and saw 3.80% for 1 year and compared that to 5.35% now. The amount of common sense on people on this site has gone down 20 fold in last few years.
Your advice was solid, could've been better if you mentioned the liquidity the ETFs bring vs locking down your money even for 4-8 weeks in bills and bonds.
To be fair, treasuries are pretty liquid, too - not as "easy to use" as ETFs, but the secondary market for them is efficient. CDs, by contrast, are only liquid at cost of paying an early withdrawal penalty (or, for brokered CDs, on the secondary market, where you generally eat a significant loss if you sell early).
Last edited by 02nz August 9, 2023 at 08:19 AM.

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Aug 09, 2023 02:24 PM
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happyusmleAug 09, 2023 02:24 PM
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Are the interesting rate changed prior to maturity date for T-Bills as I bonds?

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