Why is this is better than an ETF treasury fund, CDs, and high-interest savings accounts?
Answer: Treasury Bills "interest" is state & local tax-free on the money earned. So if you're in a high-income tax state and city they're worth it.ETF fund aren't always 100% in treasuries and charge fees.
Question (asked a dozen or more times in the thread) : How does bill interest work?
Answer: Treasury Bills "interest" is the difference between face value and purchase price. You buy a $10k bill at less than $10k, upon maturity, it is worth $10k. The difference between purchase price and maturity value is your "interest."
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When are the auctions? When can I place an order?
4, 8, 13, 17, and 26 week bills are auctioned every week.
52 week bills are auctioned every four weeks.
You can see recent results and the planned schedule at: https://www.treasurydir
4 and 8 week bills are usually announced on Tuesday, auctioned on Thursday, and settle on Tuesday.
17 and week bills are usually announced on Tuesday, auctioned on Wednesday, and settle on Tuesday.
13 and 26 week bills are usually announced on Thursday, auctioned on Monday, and settle on Thursday.
52 week bills are usually announced every 4th Thursday, auctioned on Tuesday, and settle on Thursday.
At a brokerage, you can usually can place an order between the announcement and auction.
At TreasuryDirect, you can place an order up to about 8 weeks in advance.
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Treasury BILLS are currently paying over 5% for various maturity lengths under 1 year. These can be bought through most brokerages even without a TreasuryDirect account.
Treasury BONDS are paying 4% or less and have 20 or 30 year terms.
The 4 week bill ordering opens tomorrow 8/8, the deadline to buy it is sometime Thursday 8/10 morning depending on where you are buying it and it settles on 8/15.
On TD Ameritrade, they take your money on the 10th (take it out of the money you can trade with when you hit purchase which can be as early as the 8th) and buy the bill on the 15th during time which you earn no interest. Thus the reason that I stopped buying 4 and 8 week bills at auction. Secondary markets settle the next day so often a better deal. Treasury direct does not take the money from your bank account till the day it settles and Vanguard keeps it in the settlement fund earning interest till the day it settles as well. Not sure about the other brokerage houses. Also, not sure if you rollover the t-bills how the time between redemption and the next auction works as far as any interest you are losing as that is often a week of interest as well.
FYI, if you do the math, 4 weeks for $10,000 usually gets you about $40 in interest for letting them hold your money for 5 weeks.
The Monday auctions for 3 months and six months settle on Thursday so much less time to hold your money for nothing and less redemption downtime.
The money market funds often have repurchase agreements that are taxed at the state and local level but obviously more liquid. Am looking into the ETFs now.
Good luck to everyone!
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I-bonds are similar to savings accounts with maximum holding period as 30 years. The interest rate changes every 6 months on May 1 and November 1 each year.
people just want nice looking graphics, more buttons, bells and whistles not realizing its a govt website and those nice uneccesary add-ons will cost about 365 billion dollars to add. we talking about gubberment here folks
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I-bonds are similar to savings accounts and can be held for 30 years. The interest rate changes every 6 months on May 1 and November 1 each year.
people just want nice looking graphics, more buttons, bells and whistles not realizing its a govt website and those nice uneccesary add-ons will cost about 365 billion dollars to add. we talking about gubberment here folks
you can buy and sell easy, stop being a negative nancys. bunch of karens and bobs complaining it dont looks like their wall street website lol
It's fine now that they removed that super annoying virtual keyboard to enter your password. Before that, it was just horrible to login if you use a large random character password.
i = [(100-P)/P] * (Y/R) where P=price, Y = days in year, R = days to maturity
eta: 2024 is a leap year, your bill looks like it was issued on 6/20/23 or 6/27/23?
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I haven't read the whole thread so excuse me if this has already been answered.
What is the difference between Investment/Interest Rate and Yield with T-Bills? If I have an Investment/Interest Rate of
5.113% and a yield of 5.010%, how does that relate to a $10,000 4-Weeks T-Bill purchased for $9,961.03?
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And secondly if I want to close/sell it before 52 weeks - is there a penalty on the interest earned? much like CDs?
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