Why is this is better than an ETF treasury fund, CDs, and high-interest savings accounts?
Answer: Treasury Bills "interest" is state & local tax-free on the money earned. So if you're in a high-income tax state and city they're worth it.ETF fund aren't always 100% in treasuries and charge fees.
Question (asked a dozen or more times in the thread) : How does bill interest work?
Answer: Treasury Bills "interest" is the difference between face value and purchase price. You buy a $10k bill at less than $10k, upon maturity, it is worth $10k. The difference between purchase price and maturity value is your "interest."
Tax Equivalent Yield Calculator For Savings Bonds, Treasury Bills, and Tax-Exempt Money Market Funds
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When are the auctions? When can I place an order?
4, 8, 13, 17, and 26 week bills are auctioned every week.
52 week bills are auctioned every four weeks.
You can see recent results and the planned schedule at: https://www.treasurydir
4 and 8 week bills are usually announced on Tuesday, auctioned on Thursday, and settle on Tuesday.
17 and week bills are usually announced on Tuesday, auctioned on Wednesday, and settle on Tuesday.
13 and 26 week bills are usually announced on Thursday, auctioned on Monday, and settle on Thursday.
52 week bills are usually announced every 4th Thursday, auctioned on Tuesday, and settle on Thursday.
At a brokerage, you can usually can place an order between the announcement and auction.
At TreasuryDirect, you can place an order up to about 8 weeks in advance.
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Treasury BILLS are currently paying over 5% for various maturity lengths under 1 year. These can be bought through most brokerages even without a TreasuryDirect account.
Treasury BONDS are paying 4% or less and have 20 or 30 year terms.
The 4 week bill ordering opens tomorrow 8/8, the deadline to buy it is sometime Thursday 8/10 morning depending on where you are buying it and it settles on 8/15.
On TD Ameritrade, they take your money on the 10th (take it out of the money you can trade with when you hit purchase which can be as early as the 8th) and buy the bill on the 15th during time which you earn no interest. Thus the reason that I stopped buying 4 and 8 week bills at auction. Secondary markets settle the next day so often a better deal. Treasury direct does not take the money from your bank account till the day it settles and Vanguard keeps it in the settlement fund earning interest till the day it settles as well. Not sure about the other brokerage houses. Also, not sure if you rollover the t-bills how the time between redemption and the next auction works as far as any interest you are losing as that is often a week of interest as well.
FYI, if you do the math, 4 weeks for $10,000 usually gets you about $40 in interest for letting them hold your money for 5 weeks.
The Monday auctions for 3 months and six months settle on Thursday so much less time to hold your money for nothing and less redemption downtime.
The money market funds often have repurchase agreements that are taxed at the state and local level but obviously more liquid. Am looking into the ETFs now.
Good luck to everyone!
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I applaud you for continuing your pursuit. The eventual understanding of the markets is the solution. I can promise you, mainstream media, SLICKDEALS are the wrong place to spend your time looking for educating yourself.
Best of luck
Yeah, I can find other ways to make 25%+ on my money rather than not having it available to me for such a small return for that period of time.
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My question:
Over a year perhaps 1.5 yrs ago, I bought $10k (each my name and spouse) into i-series bonds since back then the interest rate was like 9 something %. I don't know how long it earned interest at 9.xx %. I recall reading if redeemed before 5 yrs, 3 months interest is lost.
So, how do I calculate if it makes sense to move it to t-bills?
thx
If the current 3.4% rate isn't doing it for you, you can consult this page for ideas on when it might be best to sell with the penalty: https://www.doctorofcre
FYI, to the person who asked about the 100,000 for three months. If you did the 13 week auction today you would get $1338 in interest at the end of the three months. Prorated per annum as per the person who posted above stated
Technically, you would pay $98,662 for the bonds and get $100,000 on November 9th. The difference between what you pay now and what the bonds are redeemed for in November is considered the interest.
You can sell T-bills before maturity if you go through a brokerage.
If you want to talk about performance, high yield dividend stocks significantly underperform the S&P. Total return is more important than dividends. Ask AT&T.
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You would know this if you are a true finance PRO.
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2. I know what total return is... the fact you didn't realize absolute return is total return baffles me.
Not sure why you thought you had a 1-up. All you did was incorrectly classify a high-yield dividend stock and then stated it outperformed the S&P... I can pick many of those... One industry that has outperformed S&P, JNJ, and the Nasdaq, is Tobacco. The real dividend king is Altria Group. 8.53% dividend and price appreciation.
Nice try, you're a few decades away...
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Question about the long term, if we get the long term notes like 10 years, does it have option to sweep earnings every year or you have to wait until end of the term?
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