Why is this is better than an ETF treasury fund, CDs, and high-interest savings accounts?
Answer: Treasury Bills "interest" is state & local tax-free on the money earned. So if you're in a high-income tax state and city they're worth it.ETF fund aren't always 100% in treasuries and charge fees.
Question (asked a dozen or more times in the thread) : How does bill interest work?
Answer: Treasury Bills "interest" is the difference between face value and purchase price. You buy a $10k bill at less than $10k, upon maturity, it is worth $10k. The difference between purchase price and maturity value is your "interest."
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When are the auctions? When can I place an order?
4, 8, 13, 17, and 26 week bills are auctioned every week.
52 week bills are auctioned every four weeks.
You can see recent results and the planned schedule at: https://www.treasurydir
4 and 8 week bills are usually announced on Tuesday, auctioned on Thursday, and settle on Tuesday.
17 and week bills are usually announced on Tuesday, auctioned on Wednesday, and settle on Tuesday.
13 and 26 week bills are usually announced on Thursday, auctioned on Monday, and settle on Thursday.
52 week bills are usually announced every 4th Thursday, auctioned on Tuesday, and settle on Thursday.
At a brokerage, you can usually can place an order between the announcement and auction.
At TreasuryDirect, you can place an order up to about 8 weeks in advance.
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Treasury BILLS are currently paying over 5% for various maturity lengths under 1 year. These can be bought through most brokerages even without a TreasuryDirect account.
Treasury BONDS are paying 4% or less and have 20 or 30 year terms.
The 4 week bill ordering opens tomorrow 8/8, the deadline to buy it is sometime Thursday 8/10 morning depending on where you are buying it and it settles on 8/15.
On TD Ameritrade, they take your money on the 10th (take it out of the money you can trade with when you hit purchase which can be as early as the 8th) and buy the bill on the 15th during time which you earn no interest. Thus the reason that I stopped buying 4 and 8 week bills at auction. Secondary markets settle the next day so often a better deal. Treasury direct does not take the money from your bank account till the day it settles and Vanguard keeps it in the settlement fund earning interest till the day it settles as well. Not sure about the other brokerage houses. Also, not sure if you rollover the t-bills how the time between redemption and the next auction works as far as any interest you are losing as that is often a week of interest as well.
FYI, if you do the math, 4 weeks for $10,000 usually gets you about $40 in interest for letting them hold your money for 5 weeks.
The Monday auctions for 3 months and six months settle on Thursday so much less time to hold your money for nothing and less redemption downtime.
The money market funds often have repurchase agreements that are taxed at the state and local level but obviously more liquid. Am looking into the ETFs now.
Good luck to everyone!
FYI, to the person who asked about the 100,000 for three months. If you did the 13 week auction today you would get $1338 in interest at the end of the three months. Prorated per annum as per the person who posted above stated
Technically, you would pay $98,662 for the bonds and get $100,000 on November 9th. The difference between what you pay now and what the bonds are redeemed for in November is considered the interest.
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With treasury direct, the money showed up in the funding account the day before maturity. That's your free compound interest. Adjust the next day purchase to reflect the discount price. Remember that you can buy treasury in $100 increment. Worst case, you'll forfeit 45 cents of compound dividend each month.
I'm not trying to argue, as I could easily be wrong, but that's my understanding from the TBills that I have been purchasing and maturing. My mind is open, I would be extremely interested in learning how I can automatically purchase TBills and enable "automatic" compounding of interest such as with a CD or bank account.
Federal reserve manages the money , it is independent from government
Warnings against overspending go back decades but have recently become more poignant as the federal debt shoots past $34 T, now accumulating at a rate of a trillion dollars every 100 days. Two days ago, the IMF issued its own warning [linkedin.com], just the latest in a string of danger signals that are being roundly ignored.
The threat is twofold; inflation consumes the dollar's value, but that takes place within the economic framework. Continued overspending by the government threatens the framework itself. Think the economy can't collapse? Here, hold the government's beer.
Those who ignore this existential threat to the economy have their heads in the sand. The first step when there's any threat is to face it. The next is to develop a strategy to deal with it.
Warnings against overspending go back decades but have recently become more poignant as the federal debt shoots past $34 T, now accumulating at a rate of a trillion dollars every 100 days. Two days ago, the IMF issued its own warning [linkedin.com], just the latest in a string of danger signals that are being roundly ignored.
The threat is twofold; inflation consumes the dollar's value, but that takes place within the economic framework. Continued overspending by the government threatens the framework itself. Think the economy can't collapse? Here, hold the government's beer.
Those who ignore this existential threat to the economy have their heads in the sand. The first step when there's any threat is to face it. The next is to develop a strategy to deal with it.
Yes, develop a strategy against the dollar failure....
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when you cannot afford of debit you are in default , that means bankruptcy ! start with inflation , the money eventually is worth noithg
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I'm not trying to argue, as I could easily be wrong, but that's my understanding from the TBills that I have been purchasing and maturing. My mind is open, I would be extremely interested in learning how I can automatically purchase TBills and enable "automatic" compounding of interest such as with a CD or bank account.
$1000 t bill matures today. The $1000 shows up in your account yesterday. You set up in advance the purchase of $1000 today. About $995 will be deducted from your account on Thursday.
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