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Acer Predator Helios 18 Gaming Laptop: i9 13900HX, 18" QHD+, 32GB DDR5, RTX 4080

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Best Buy has Acer Predator Helios 18 Gaming Laptop w/ Protective Sleeve (PH18-71-94F1) on sale for $2199.99. Shipping is free, otherwise, select free curbside pickup as an alternative option.

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Specs/Key Features
  • Intel i9 13900HX 24-Core/32-Threads 5.4GHz Processor (13th Gen)
  • 18" 2560x1600 QHD+ 250Hz 3ms 1000-Nits Mini LED Display w/ 1080p FHD Webcam
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe Solid State Drive SSD
  • 32GB (2x16GB) SO-DIMM DDR5 Memory
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 12GB GDDR6 GPU
  • Intel Killer WiFi 6E AX1675 + Bluetooth
  • Lithium Ion Battery (90W)
  • RGB Backlit Keyboard w/ Precision Corning Gorilla Glass Touchpad
  • Windows 11 Home OS
    • Inputs
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A
      • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
      • 1x HDMI 2.1 with HDCP Support
      • 1x RJ-45
Warranty
  • Includes 1-year manufacturers warranty w/ purchase (parts + labor)

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • This Acer Predator Helios 18 gaming laptop is a 2023 model and offers a choice for serious gamers/power users w/ high to very high end components (high performance) + an extra PCIe M.2 slot for future upgradeability
  • This product offers a $300 Off or 12% Overall Discount/savings
  • Offer valid while supplies last
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Best Buy has Acer Predator Helios 18 Gaming Laptop w/ Protective Sleeve (PH18-71-94F1) on sale for $2199.99. Shipping is free, otherwise, select free curbside pickup as an alternative option.

Thanks to community member Dr.Wajahat for finding this deal

Note, curbside pickup may vary depending on location/availability.

Specs/Key Features
  • Intel i9 13900HX 24-Core/32-Threads 5.4GHz Processor (13th Gen)
  • 18" 2560x1600 QHD+ 250Hz 3ms 1000-Nits Mini LED Display w/ 1080p FHD Webcam
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe Solid State Drive SSD
  • 32GB (2x16GB) SO-DIMM DDR5 Memory
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 12GB GDDR6 GPU
  • Intel Killer WiFi 6E AX1675 + Bluetooth
  • Lithium Ion Battery (90W)
  • RGB Backlit Keyboard w/ Precision Corning Gorilla Glass Touchpad
  • Windows 11 Home OS
    • Inputs
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A
      • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
      • 1x HDMI 2.1 with HDCP Support
      • 1x RJ-45
Warranty
  • Includes 1-year manufacturers warranty w/ purchase (parts + labor)

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • This Acer Predator Helios 18 gaming laptop is a 2023 model and offers a choice for serious gamers/power users w/ high to very high end components (high performance) + an extra PCIe M.2 slot for future upgradeability
  • This product offers a $300 Off or 12% Overall Discount/savings
  • Offer valid while supplies last
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Written by Dr.W

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Model: Acer - Predator Helios 18-18" 250Hz Gaming Laptop HDR– Intel i9-13900HX with 32GB Memory–GeForce RTX 4080–1TB SSD - Abyssal Black

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Bearclawjohnson
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Specs look amazing. 1000 nit mini-led 18" 250hz qhd screen. Solid. Anyone have this and care to comment on their experience?
iamfeneq
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Sorry, I got carried away but there is so little info on this laptop I figured someone will appreciate this.

tl;dr, at least from my brief impression, great performance, good thermals and amazing feature set for the price. It feels like a budget, premium laptop. They've cut corners in some areas but I think they've nailed it where it matters the most.

Here are some initial impressions.

13900HX, 4080 12 GB, 32 GB DDR5-5600 (16x2 Quad Channel, SK Hynix), 1 TB SSD (Micron 3400) and of course that beautiful HDR 1000 Mini-LED display.

Advanced Optimus, MUX switch, Thunderbolt 4, USB-C charging are all here

Build Quality 8/10
Build quality is good, not top-tier but good. It feels rigid, a bit heavy but not too bad. It's a massive laptop of course at 18 inches. Top and keyboard deck are metal, bottom panel feels plastic. It's not Razer level of build quality but it's about ROG Strix level of quality.

Keyboard 7.5/10
Keys are nicely spaced and don't feel crowded. Keys are a little smaller than I prefer but not close to a deal breaker. Key strokes are fairly punchy, it doesn't feel mushy. Overall I like it, 7.5/10 for a laptop keyboard. This may change overtime as I do a lot of typing.

RGB 8/10
RGB lighting is an 8/10. I dig the back light bar, even though you can't see it while using the laptop. The keys look good, not as good as a Razer laptop which I'd say is the best in class in terms of laptop keyboard RGB. A bit better than Asus though.

Trackpad 6/10
It feels good gliding my finger over it, I do believe it is a glass trackpad however it rattles a bit and feels hollow toward the bottom. Clicking the trackpad feels decent but taps don't feel great. Fine, micro movements feel somewhat unresponsive. If you have used Asus laptops, say a Zephyrus 14 or 16, this is probably 1-2 points lower than those but 1-2 points higher than something like an HP Omen.

Speakers 6/10
If a Macbook Pro 16 has 10/10 laptop speakers then this is probably a 6/10. I'm not an audiophile by any means but these have 0 bass. Clarity is decent. They are serviceable, if I'm trying to be immersed in music, movie or games then I'm grabbing my headphones.

Software 6/10
I've seen worse for sure. Most of the software is complete junk. PredatorSense is the control center software for the Helios 18. It's not as feature rich as something like Armoury Crate but there is less bloat. It's also responsive which is nice considering a lot of the time that has not been my experience using other laptops control center software. You can switch between 4 modes on AC power (Eco, Balanced, Performance and Turbo). You can control the fan speed but there is no fan curve editor which just plain sucks. Also I do appreciate when simple overclock controls are included but that is NOT the case here. You can customize the RGB from PredatorSense, it's decently extensive but I usually just go with the presets. Overall PredatorSense is a bit barebones.

Battery Life 5/10
I haven't had a lot of time to test battery life but at 70% brightness, Eco mode set, 250hz refresh, keyboard backlighting on, dgpu disabled, turbo boost disabled… I've run through 52% battery in 2 hours with mostly light use. So it's not great. I suspect most people don't buy an 18 inch laptop for its battery life though. I feel like 5 maybe 5.5 hours is possible if you optimize for battery life. Performance remains snappy in Eco/Silent mode which in my experience is not always the case so it's nice to see here.

Display 9/10
Trust me, I'm completely spoiled by beautiful displays in all of my devices at this point. This one holds up. I love OLED but HDR highlights are pure eye candy on this display. Black levels are good too. Great display, make sure to get the HDR Calibration tool from the Windows Store. Colors were a bit oversaturated at first. As far as I can tell you cannot set the display to single-zone mode like Asus laptops.

Thermals 8/10, Performance 9/10 (stock, no overclock, no undervolt, no custom fan curves)

Again, I haven't done extensive testing.

Timespy - Turbo Mode

18,838 / 18,863 Graphics / 18,704 CPU

During the graphics portion of the test the CPU averaged 80c, with a max of 85c. However the CPU quickly hit 100c during the CPU test, average around 98c.

The GPU averaged 81c, going as high as 85c at max.

This thing runs hot in Turbo and the fans get loud. I think in most games the temps will be fine. The other modes are far more intriguing to me however.

Timespy - Performance Mode

17,446 / 17,241 Graphics / 18,709 CPU

CPU never broke 71c during the graphics portion of the test, though it was roughly the same temps as Turbo mode during the CPU test.

The GPU hit a max of 76c during the test, averaged 74c or so.

The temps were good in this mode, the fan noise wasn't too bad either, much quieter than turbo. I can game without headphones in this mode.

Timespy - Balanced Mode

15,246 / 14,871 Graphics / 17,795 CPU

The CPU temps hit a max of 73c in the graphics test and stayed cooler averaging 92c in the CPU test.

The GPU hit a max of 75c, average around 72c.

Again temps were good in this mode. Fan noise was not distracting at all, you won't bother people next to you at all in this mode.

Timespy - Eco Mode

13,402 / 12,868 Graphics / 17,525 CPU

Temps were roughly the same in this mode as Balanced mode but now the fans were barely noticeable. I had to put my ear closer to the laptop to hear them which is actually really cool to consider that you are getting about the same performance as a 4070 laptop would get in Turbo mode.



From my initial impressions, I feel like this is a keeper. I will be using it heavily over the next week or 2 and make a final decision. I've never used an 18 inch laptop before and I can see how in some ways it's great (on my desk and the screen size) and how in some ways it's a bit too bulky (portability and using it on my lap). I guess that's not something I didn't already suspect but first hand experience is important to truly know. I'm thinking 16 inches is the sweet spot for me but I don't think an 18 inch laptop is a deal breaker, especially at this price point with these specs and features.

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Aug 15, 2023 02:01 AM
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dplattAug 15, 2023 02:01 AM
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Seems like a solid deal. Any chance you can get 64G of ram into this? I am getting mixed information.
Aug 15, 2023 02:18 AM
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NeimallahAug 15, 2023 02:18 AM
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The laptop does seem to have 2 Thunderbolt ports on the back. This is a practically perfect laptop, feature wise at least. I have no idea what the real world performance is.
Last edited by Neimallah August 14, 2023 at 08:21 PM.
Aug 15, 2023 05:40 AM
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NaramieAug 15, 2023 05:40 AM
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Great specs and price for 18" laptop which is rare these days.
Aug 15, 2023 10:58 AM
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CrimsonHalibut6708Aug 15, 2023 10:58 AM
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Can you please tell me if there is a laptop model with 4k resolution, a glossy screen and 120Hz?
Aug 15, 2023 12:06 PM
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AmusedPlastic6071Aug 15, 2023 12:06 PM
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You might as well wait, only a few months away.
Quote from mattwall45 :
Everything I want…..do I wait for Black Friday though. Tough to call
Aug 15, 2023 12:55 PM
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Aug 15, 2023 01:28 PM
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B3N0L1Aug 15, 2023 01:28 PM
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Quote from mattwall45 :
Best Buy link says 12gb. I don't think they make an 8gb 4080
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My Legion 3080 laptop has 16gigs Vram
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Aug 15, 2023 01:29 PM
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AmusedPlastic6071Aug 15, 2023 01:29 PM
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Quote from dplatt :
Seems like a solid deal. Any chance you can get 64G of ram into this? I am getting mixed information.
I'd say unofficially supported.
Aug 15, 2023 01:36 PM
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audioCloverAug 15, 2023 01:36 PM
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Quote from istavnit :
Few missing spec:
- the loudness of fans when Nvidia GPU takes over the video.
- max BTU output so you can use it to stay warm on cold winter nights.
- number of minutes fully charged battery can power this monster during gameplay
Do people use gaming laptops on battery? Performance was always severely impacted in my experience with past gaming laptops.
Aug 15, 2023 01:36 PM
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yzer0Aug 15, 2023 01:36 PM
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Does this run Golf Sim smoothly?
Aug 15, 2023 01:38 PM
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seaniepantsAug 15, 2023 01:38 PM
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Quote from CrimsonHalibut6708 :
Can you please tell me if there is a laptop model with 4k resolution, a glossy screen and 120Hz?
Used (or new older stock) 17" Razer with 4k 120hz touchscreen. The new ones don't have that screen anymore.
Aug 15, 2023 01:45 PM
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thecgregAug 15, 2023 01:45 PM
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Quote from ROKET :
How do these laptops perform compared to their desktop counterparts these days? Im gearing up for a new build after several years and trying to decide if its worth it beyond the sheer enjoyment of the build. GPUs are so mf expensive still and deciding on all the different parts will take time. I assume they still underperform but doesnt hurt to have the portability I suppose.
The 4080 laptop is comparable to the 4070 Ti desktop. The 4090 laptop is comparable to the 4080 desktop.

By that, I mean the specs (CUDA cores, VRAM, shader/RT/Tensor cores) are the same. Problem is power. You can't push 3-400 watts to the GPU on mobile so they will unfortunately always be weaker than the desktop counterpart.

All that being said, I have a 4080 laptop and it gets the job done! 1600p on ultra settings for every game at least getting 100fps. 4k dips quite a bit due to only 12GB VRAM. But with DLSS and/or Frame Generation (don't like using these unless necessary), I keep solid 60fps at 4k in most AAA titles.
Aug 15, 2023 02:08 PM
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VulnoXAug 15, 2023 02:08 PM
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Anyone have experience with this in terms of thermal management? I got my wife an MSI GS66 Stealth a few years ago that was well reviewed, but fairly early on she was having issues where the CPU would hit overtemp and the fans would go full blast and the video would get all jittery. You could only recover by restarting. I messed with undervolting and all that, but found the only thing that would stop it is setting the max power profile to 99%, which effectively turns off the "Turbo" functions on the i7.

Not a huge deal overall as what she's playing isn't hurting too bad by the lower CPU performance, but it's frustrating how much this laptop cost and it seems to be a fairly common issue for this laptop (which came out a bit after we got it of course).

So now I am super gun shy on buying another built up gaming laptop as I don't mind the fans being a bit loud, I just need the laptop to work even when pushing it.
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Aug 15, 2023 03:36 PM
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PaladinPAug 15, 2023 03:36 PM
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I'm still waiting for a 4080 laptop to go sub $1700. You guys think it will this BF ? Price jump from 4070 to 4080 is ridiculous.
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