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Acer Predator Helios 18 Gaming Laptop: i9 13900HX, 18" QHD+, 32GB DDR5, RTX 4080

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Best Buy has Acer Predator Helios 18 Gaming Laptop w/ Protective Sleeve (PH18-71-94F1) on sale for $2199.99. Shipping is free, otherwise, select free curbside pickup as an alternative option.

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Specs/Key Features
  • Intel i9 13900HX 24-Core/32-Threads 5.4GHz Processor (13th Gen)
  • 18" 2560x1600 QHD+ 250Hz 3ms 1000-Nits Mini LED Display w/ 1080p FHD Webcam
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe Solid State Drive SSD
  • 32GB (2x16GB) SO-DIMM DDR5 Memory
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 12GB GDDR6 GPU
  • Intel Killer WiFi 6E AX1675 + Bluetooth
  • Lithium Ion Battery (90W)
  • RGB Backlit Keyboard w/ Precision Corning Gorilla Glass Touchpad
  • Windows 11 Home OS
    • Inputs
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A
      • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
      • 1x HDMI 2.1 with HDCP Support
      • 1x RJ-45
Warranty
  • Includes 1-year manufacturers warranty w/ purchase (parts + labor)

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • This Acer Predator Helios 18 gaming laptop is a 2023 model and offers a choice for serious gamers/power users w/ high to very high end components (high performance) + an extra PCIe M.2 slot for future upgradeability
  • This product offers a $300 Off or 12% Overall Discount/savings
  • Offer valid while supplies last
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Best Buy has Acer Predator Helios 18 Gaming Laptop w/ Protective Sleeve (PH18-71-94F1) on sale for $2199.99. Shipping is free, otherwise, select free curbside pickup as an alternative option.

Thanks to community member Dr.Wajahat for finding this deal

Note, curbside pickup may vary depending on location/availability.

Specs/Key Features
  • Intel i9 13900HX 24-Core/32-Threads 5.4GHz Processor (13th Gen)
  • 18" 2560x1600 QHD+ 250Hz 3ms 1000-Nits Mini LED Display w/ 1080p FHD Webcam
  • 1TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe Solid State Drive SSD
  • 32GB (2x16GB) SO-DIMM DDR5 Memory
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 12GB GDDR6 GPU
  • Intel Killer WiFi 6E AX1675 + Bluetooth
  • Lithium Ion Battery (90W)
  • RGB Backlit Keyboard w/ Precision Corning Gorilla Glass Touchpad
  • Windows 11 Home OS
    • Inputs
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-C
      • 2x USB 3.2 Gen 2 Type-A
      • 1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-A
      • 1x HDMI 2.1 with HDCP Support
      • 1x RJ-45
Warranty
  • Includes 1-year manufacturers warranty w/ purchase (parts + labor)

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • This Acer Predator Helios 18 gaming laptop is a 2023 model and offers a choice for serious gamers/power users w/ high to very high end components (high performance) + an extra PCIe M.2 slot for future upgradeability
  • This product offers a $300 Off or 12% Overall Discount/savings
  • Offer valid while supplies last
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Written by Dr.W

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Aug 15, 2023 4:29 PM
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oceanoneAug 15, 2023 4:29 PM
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Quote from PaladinP :
I'm still waiting for a 4080 laptop to go sub $1700. You guys think it will this BF ? Price jump from 4070 to 4080 is ridiculous.
yes the HP omen 17 inch with RX 4080 is on ebay 1779 for about 3 weeks already , my target is 1500 for 17 inch and rtx 4080 for black friday
Aug 15, 2023 5:42 PM
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DeProofAug 15, 2023 5:42 PM
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Quote from B3N0L1 :
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My Legion 3080 laptop has 16gigs Vram
Not sure what your point is, but no it doesn't.
Aug 15, 2023 11:27 PM
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iamfeneqAug 15, 2023 11:27 PM
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Just received my Helios 18. I'll post more impressions later but it DOES have a Mini-LED display. Not sure why there is a price difference between the 2 models I mentioned in my other post.
Aug 16, 2023 12:07 AM
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Nikcj214Aug 16, 2023 12:07 AM
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Quote from iamfeneq :
Just received my Helios 18. I'll post more impressions later but it DOES have a Mini-LED display. Not sure why there is a price difference between the 2 models I mentioned in my other post.
Awesome I would appreciate some impressions!
Last edited by Nikcj214 August 15, 2023 at 06:01 PM.
Aug 16, 2023 12:09 AM
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dplattAug 16, 2023 12:09 AM
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Quote from Nikcj214 :
Awesome I would appreciate some impressions!
Don't leave us hanging. LMAOLMAO
Aug 16, 2023 12:49 AM
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AtaxonuAug 16, 2023 12:49 AM
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Quote from AmusedPlastic6071 :
Good to see larger screen laptop making a comeback. Most people won't be carrying these around anyway, great desktop replacements. I'm waiting for one to go below $1700 with a decent dGPU. Kid needs a gaming computer and the full desktop setup is too much clutter.
The other version is at that price.
Aug 16, 2023 3:25 AM
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SwamdogAug 16, 2023 3:25 AM
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Quote from DeProof :
Not sure what your point is, but no it doesn't.
Well, I had the Legion 7 AMD with 3080 and it did have 16GB VRAM. I am not sure what the OP's point was but he is right about 16GB VRAM

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Aug 16, 2023 3:34 AM
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WilliamGAug 16, 2023 3:34 AM
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Quote from DeProof :
Not sure what your point is, but no it doesn't.
The Legion with 3080 does have 16GB VRAM. Not sure why you're saying it doesn't?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155306027120
Aug 16, 2023 3:37 AM
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BoastfulWriter358Aug 16, 2023 3:37 AM
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Quote from WilliamG :
The Legion with 3080 does have 16GB VRAM. Not sure why you're saying it doesn't?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155306027120
That's system ram not video ram...

3080 gpus never had 16gb of video ram.

*Edit, I stand corrected. Neat stuff*
Last edited by BoastfulWriter358 August 15, 2023 at 09:22 PM.
Aug 16, 2023 4:11 AM
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Dwreckx86Aug 16, 2023 4:11 AM
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Quote from BoastfulWriter358 :
That's system ram not video ram...

3080 gpus never had 16gb of video ram.
It says "GeForce RTX 3080 16GB GDDR6." 3080 is based "on the GA104-775-A1 Ampere chip and offers 8 or 16 GB GDDR6 graphics memory." https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVI...450.0.html
Aug 16, 2023 4:22 AM
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BoastfulWriter358Aug 16, 2023 4:22 AM
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Quote from Dwreckx86 :
It says "GeForce RTX 3080 16GB GDDR6." 3080 is based "on the GA104-775-A1 Ampere chip and offers 8 or 16 GB GDDR6 graphics memory." https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVI...450.0.html [notebookcheck.net]
Well shoot, learn something new lol, my bad. I actually had no idea that they made the mobile 3080 into what the desktop 3070 should have always been. Kind of interesting, actually.
Aug 16, 2023 4:30 AM
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iamfeneqAug 16, 2023 4:30 AM
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Sorry, I got carried away but there is so little info on this laptop I figured someone will appreciate this.

tl;dr, at least from my brief impression, great performance, good thermals and amazing feature set for the price. It feels like a budget, premium laptop. They've cut corners in some areas but I think they've nailed it where it matters the most.

Here are some initial impressions.

13900HX, 4080 12 GB, 32 GB DDR5-5600 (16x2 Quad Channel, SK Hynix), 1 TB SSD (Micron 3400) and of course that beautiful HDR 1000 Mini-LED display.

Advanced Optimus, MUX switch, Thunderbolt 4, USB-C charging are all here

Build Quality 8/10
Build quality is good, not top-tier but good. It feels rigid, a bit heavy but not too bad. It's a massive laptop of course at 18 inches. Top and keyboard deck are metal, bottom panel feels plastic. It's not Razer level of build quality but it's about ROG Strix level of quality.

Keyboard 7.5/10
Keys are nicely spaced and don't feel crowded. Keys are a little smaller than I prefer but not close to a deal breaker. Key strokes are fairly punchy, it doesn't feel mushy. Overall I like it, 7.5/10 for a laptop keyboard. This may change overtime as I do a lot of typing.

RGB 8/10
RGB lighting is an 8/10. I dig the back light bar, even though you can't see it while using the laptop. The keys look good, not as good as a Razer laptop which I'd say is the best in class in terms of laptop keyboard RGB. A bit better than Asus though.

Trackpad 6/10
It feels good gliding my finger over it, I do believe it is a glass trackpad however it rattles a bit and feels hollow toward the bottom. Clicking the trackpad feels decent but taps don't feel great. Fine, micro movements feel somewhat unresponsive. If you have used Asus laptops, say a Zephyrus 14 or 16, this is probably 1-2 points lower than those but 1-2 points higher than something like an HP Omen.

Speakers 6/10
If a Macbook Pro 16 has 10/10 laptop speakers then this is probably a 6/10. I'm not an audiophile by any means but these have 0 bass. Clarity is decent. They are serviceable, if I'm trying to be immersed in music, movie or games then I'm grabbing my headphones.

Software 6/10
I've seen worse for sure. Most of the software is complete junk. PredatorSense is the control center software for the Helios 18. It's not as feature rich as something like Armoury Crate but there is less bloat. It's also responsive which is nice considering a lot of the time that has not been my experience using other laptops control center software. You can switch between 4 modes on AC power (Eco, Balanced, Performance and Turbo). You can control the fan speed but there is no fan curve editor which just plain sucks. Also I do appreciate when simple overclock controls are included but that is NOT the case here. You can customize the RGB from PredatorSense, it's decently extensive but I usually just go with the presets. Overall PredatorSense is a bit barebones.

Battery Life 5/10
I haven't had a lot of time to test battery life but at 70% brightness, Eco mode set, 250hz refresh, keyboard backlighting on, dgpu disabled, turbo boost disabled… I've run through 52% battery in 2 hours with mostly light use. So it's not great. I suspect most people don't buy an 18 inch laptop for its battery life though. I feel like 5 maybe 5.5 hours is possible if you optimize for battery life. Performance remains snappy in Eco/Silent mode which in my experience is not always the case so it's nice to see here.

Display 9/10
Trust me, I'm completely spoiled by beautiful displays in all of my devices at this point. This one holds up. I love OLED but HDR highlights are pure eye candy on this display. Black levels are good too. Great display, make sure to get the HDR Calibration tool from the Windows Store. Colors were a bit oversaturated at first. As far as I can tell you cannot set the display to single-zone mode like Asus laptops.

Thermals 8/10, Performance 9/10 (stock, no overclock, no undervolt, no custom fan curves)

Again, I haven't done extensive testing.

Timespy - Turbo Mode

18,838 / 18,863 Graphics / 18,704 CPU

During the graphics portion of the test the CPU averaged 80c, with a max of 85c. However the CPU quickly hit 100c during the CPU test, average around 98c.

The GPU averaged 81c, going as high as 85c at max.

This thing runs hot in Turbo and the fans get loud. I think in most games the temps will be fine. The other modes are far more intriguing to me however.

Timespy - Performance Mode

17,446 / 17,241 Graphics / 18,709 CPU

CPU never broke 71c during the graphics portion of the test, though it was roughly the same temps as Turbo mode during the CPU test.

The GPU hit a max of 76c during the test, averaged 74c or so.

The temps were good in this mode, the fan noise wasn't too bad either, much quieter than turbo. I can game without headphones in this mode.

Timespy - Balanced Mode

15,246 / 14,871 Graphics / 17,795 CPU

The CPU temps hit a max of 73c in the graphics test and stayed cooler averaging 92c in the CPU test.

The GPU hit a max of 75c, average around 72c.

Again temps were good in this mode. Fan noise was not distracting at all, you won't bother people next to you at all in this mode.

Timespy - Eco Mode

13,402 / 12,868 Graphics / 17,525 CPU

Temps were roughly the same in this mode as Balanced mode but now the fans were barely noticeable. I had to put my ear closer to the laptop to hear them which is actually really cool to consider that you are getting about the same performance as a 4070 laptop would get in Turbo mode.



From my initial impressions, I feel like this is a keeper. I will be using it heavily over the next week or 2 and make a final decision. I've never used an 18 inch laptop before and I can see how in some ways it's great (on my desk and the screen size) and how in some ways it's a bit too bulky (portability and using it on my lap). I guess that's not something I didn't already suspect but first hand experience is important to truly know. I'm thinking 16 inches is the sweet spot for me but I don't think an 18 inch laptop is a deal breaker, especially at this price point with these specs and features.
Last edited by iamfeneq August 16, 2023 at 01:00 AM.
Aug 16, 2023 5:26 AM
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WilliamGAug 16, 2023 5:26 AM
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Quote from BoastfulWriter358 :
Well shoot, learn something new lol, my bad. I actually had no idea that they made the mobile 3080 into what the desktop 3070 should have always been. Kind of interesting, actually.
Yep. It's a downer the 40 series took a step back on the mobile side in this regard. I have the Legion 4080 and it's fantastic, but it should have come with 16GB VRAM.
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Gosh if it was a 4090 I would bite

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MyBallsItchAug 16, 2023 7:54 AM
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Quote from iamfeneq :
Sorry, I got carried away but there is so little info on this laptop I figured someone will appreciate this.

tl;dr, at least from my brief impression, great performance, good thermals and amazing feature set for the price. It feels like a budget, premium laptop. They've cut corners in some areas but I think they've nailed it where it matters the most.

Here are some initial impressions.

13900HX, 4080 12 GB, 32 GB DDR5-5600 (16x2 Quad Channel, SK Hynix), 1 TB SSD (Micron 3400) and of course that beautiful HDR 1000 Mini-LED display.

Advanced Optimus, MUX switch, Thunderbolt 4, USB-C charging are all here

Build Quality 8/10
Build quality is good, not top-tier but good. It feels rigid, a bit heavy but not too bad. It's a massive laptop of course at 18 inches. Top and keyboard deck are metal, bottom panel feels plastic. It's not Razer level of build quality but it's about ROG Strix level of quality.

Keyboard 7.5/10
Keys are nicely spaced and don't feel crowded. Keys are a little smaller than I prefer but not close to a deal breaker. Key strokes are fairly punchy, it doesn't feel mushy. Overall I like it, 7.5/10 for a laptop keyboard. This may change overtime as I do a lot of typing.

RGB 8/10
RGB lighting is an 8/10. I dig the back light bar, even though you can't see it while using the laptop. The keys look good, not as good as a Razer laptop which I'd say is the best in class in terms of laptop keyboard RGB. A bit better than Asus though.

Trackpad 6/10
It feels good gliding my finger over it, I do believe it is a glass trackpad however it rattles a bit and feels hollow toward the bottom. Clicking the trackpad feels decent but taps don't feel great. Fine, micro movements feel somewhat unresponsive. If you have used Asus laptops, say a Zephyrus 14 or 16, this is probably 1-2 points lower than those but 1-2 points higher than something like an HP Omen.
If a Macbook Pro 16 has 10/10 laptop speakers then this is probably a 6/10. I'm not an audiophile by any means but these have 0 bass. Clarity is decent. They are serviceable, if I'm trying to be immersed in music, movie or games then I'm grabbing my headphones.

Software 6/10
I've seen worse for sure. Most of the software is complete junk. PredatorSense is the control center software for the Helios 18. It's not as feature rich as something like Armoury Crate but there is less bloat. It's also responsive which is nice considering a lot of the time that has not been my experience using other laptops control center software. You can switch between 4 modes on AC power (Eco, Balanced, Performance and Turbo). You can control the fan speed but there is no fan curve editor which just plain sucks. Also I do appreciate when simple overclock controls are included but that is NOT the case here. You can customize the RGB from PredatorSense, it's decently extensive but I usually just go with the presets. Overall PredatorSense is a bit barebones.
I haven't had a lot of time to test battery life but at 70% brightness, Eco mode set, 250hz refresh, keyboard backlighting on, dgpu disabled, turbo boost disabled… I've run through 52% battery in 2 hours with mostly light use. So it's not great. I suspect most people don't buy an 18 inch laptop for its battery life though. I feel like 5 maybe 5.5 hours is possible if you optimize for battery life. Performance remains snappy in Eco/Silent mode which in my experience is not always the case so it's nice to see here.

Display 9/10
Trust me, I'm completely spoiled by beautiful displays in all of my devices at this point. This one holds up. I love OLED but HDR highlights are pure eye candy on this display. Black levels are good too. Great display, make sure to get the HDR Calibration tool from the Windows Store. Colors were a bit oversaturated at first. As far as I can tell you cannot set the display to single-zone mode like Asus laptops.

Thermals 8/10, Performance 9/10 (stock, no overclock, no undervolt, no custom fan curves)

Again, I haven't done extensive testing.

Timespy - Turbo Mode

18,838 / 18,863 Graphics / 18,704 CPU

During the graphics portion of the test the CPU averaged 80c, with a max of 85c. However the CPU quickly hit 100c during the CPU test, average around 98c.

The GPU averaged 81c, going as high as 85c at max.

This thing runs hot in Turbo and the fans get loud. I think in most games the temps will be fine. The other modes are far more intriguing to me however.

Timespy - Performance Mode

17,446 / 17,241 Graphics / 18,709 CPU

CPU never broke 71c during the graphics portion of the test, though it was roughly the same temps as Turbo mode during the CPU test.

The GPU hit a max of 76c during the test, averaged 74c or so.

The temps were good in this mode, the fan noise wasn't too bad either, much quieter than turbo. I can game without headphones in this mode.

Timespy - Balanced Mode

15,246 / 14,871 Graphics / 17,795 CPU

The CPU temps hit a max of 73c in the graphics test and stayed cooler averaging 92c in the CPU test.

The GPU hit a max of 75c, average around 72c.

Again temps were good in this mode. Fan noise was not distracting at all, you won't bother people next to you at all in this mode.

Timespy - Eco Mode

13,402 / 12,868 Graphics / 17,525 CPU

Temps were roughly the same in this mode as Balanced mode but now the fans were barely noticeable. I had to put my ear closer to the laptop to hear them which is actually really cool to consider that you are getting about the same performance as a 4070 laptop would get in Turbo mode.



From my initial impressions, I feel like this is a keeper. I will be using it heavily over the next week or 2 and make a final decision. I've never used an 18 inch laptop before and I can see how in some ways it's great (on my desk and the screen size) and how in some ways it's a bit too bulky (portability and using it on my lap). I guess that's not something I didn't already suspect but first hand experience is important to truly know. I'm thinking 16 inches is the sweet spot for me but I don't think an 18 inch laptop is a deal breaker, especially at this price point with these specs and features.


This laptop keeps tempting me. I'm trying to say no, but then I use my 250nit 17.3 and it says you need this.

Silly question but how are the speakers? At home I usually connect to bt speakers but at times, all I have to watch streaming video are the built in speakers. Are they loud enough and decent enough for all your youtube and video streaming needs?

Also do you have lap use experience with a modern 17.3 to compare to? Older 17.3 seemed big on my lap, newer 17.3 seem closer in size to 15.6 footprint and are just right.
I'm guessing this would be more like the size/weight of an older 17.3 which were heavier and had larger bezels and larger body of the laptop?

Is it a noticeable step up in screen size from 17.3? Seems like such a minimal size difference.

Back to the lap use scenario, does it run reasonably cool to where you can use it in your lap for hours on end browsing and watching video's without it becoming uncomfortably hot? Is it vented ok for long term lap use?
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