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Costco Members: 77" LG OLED77A2PUA OLED 4K UHD Smart webOS TV (2022 Model)

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Costco Wholesale has for their Members: 77" LG OLED77A2PUA OLED 4K UHD Smart webOS TV (2022 Model) for $1499.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member brainman for finding this deal.

Note: A Costco Membership is required to purchase this item. Set up and installation NOT included.

Specs/Key Features:
  • Resolution: 3840x2160 (4K UHD)
  • Refresh Rate: 60Hz
  • Dolby Vision/HDR 10/Hybrid Log Gamma
  • Magic/Voice Control Remote
  • WiFi w/ Bluetooth 5.0
  • VESA Mount: 300x200mm
  • Dolby Atmos
  • Google Assistant/Amazon Alexa Voice Assistant Built-In
  • webOS Smart Platform
    • Inputs
      • 3x HDMI
      • 2x USB 2.0
      • 1x Ethernet
      • 1x RF Antenna
      • 1x Digital Optical Audio
Additional Savings:

Purchase multiple qualifying Costco Direct items on the same order and receive additional savings.
  • Buy 2, Save $100
  • Buy 3, Save $200
  • Buy 4, Save $300
  • Buy 5 or more, Save $400
Offer valid while supplies last. Online-Only. Pre-bundled item sets count as a single quantity for the purposes of this promotion; savings are already included in the bundled pricing.

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Written by brainman
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Costco Wholesale has for their Members: 77" LG OLED77A2PUA OLED 4K UHD Smart webOS TV (2022 Model) for $1499.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member brainman for finding this deal.

Note: A Costco Membership is required to purchase this item. Set up and installation NOT included.

Specs/Key Features:
  • Resolution: 3840x2160 (4K UHD)
  • Refresh Rate: 60Hz
  • Dolby Vision/HDR 10/Hybrid Log Gamma
  • Magic/Voice Control Remote
  • WiFi w/ Bluetooth 5.0
  • VESA Mount: 300x200mm
  • Dolby Atmos
  • Google Assistant/Amazon Alexa Voice Assistant Built-In
  • webOS Smart Platform
    • Inputs
      • 3x HDMI
      • 2x USB 2.0
      • 1x Ethernet
      • 1x RF Antenna
      • 1x Digital Optical Audio
Additional Savings:

Purchase multiple qualifying Costco Direct items on the same order and receive additional savings.
  • Buy 2, Save $100
  • Buy 3, Save $200
  • Buy 4, Save $300
  • Buy 5 or more, Save $400
Offer valid while supplies last. Online-Only. Pre-bundled item sets count as a single quantity for the purposes of this promotion; savings are already included in the bundled pricing.

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Written by citan359 | Staff

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Written by brainman

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edrock200
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It's worth noting this is an A2, not A3.

As others have noted brightness and refresh rate of 60hz vs 120hz. For the average tv viewer, probably not noticable however depending on your sensitivity you may notice a judder effect on 24fps sources. This article explains it best but here is the base explanation:

"A 60Hz TV has trouble removing 24 fps judder because 60 isn't a multiple of 24. To display this type of content, a technique known as a "3:2 pulldown" is used. Basically, 12 of the 24 frames repeat three times, while the other 12 repeat twice, totaling 60 frames. Not everybody notices this, but it causes some scenes, notably panning shots, to appear juddery. However, 120Hz TVs have an advantage here because they can simply display each frame five times since 120 is a multiple of 24."

It also notes that some sources, such as Chromecast, will only output 60fps, so something else to keep in mind if you want to take full advantage of 120hz.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/w...z-vs-120hz

*Edit* thanks dealbabydeal for pointing this out:
From RTINGS: "The LG A2 can remove judder from 24p sources, and you just need to enable Real Cinema."

Edit2 - even more useful info here. If I'm understanding correctly a 24fps source played through a device that supports frame rate matching at 24fps will eliminate judder. If it forces output at 60 you will still get judder https://slickdeals.net/f/16863020-lg-77-class-oled-a2-series-4k-uhd-oled-tv-1499?p=165323000#post165323000
Jcwillia1
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I've been an OLED denier for years. Thought they were ridiculously over priced for what they are.

Then I bought a 42" C2 for my computer and oh. My. God.

So pretty.
hanabie
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Not sure. I have one in a pretty bright room and it looks great.

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Aug 16, 2023 06:14 PM
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acha8500Aug 16, 2023 06:14 PM
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The only only thing keeping me hesitant is the 60hz vs 120hz. This would be an amazing upgrade for the bedroom… only watching tv and movies so gaming wouldn't matter. Is dealing with judder worth the savings???
Last edited by acha8500 August 16, 2023 at 11:23 AM.
Aug 16, 2023 06:26 PM
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euuser612761Aug 16, 2023 06:26 PM
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60hz - 15 year old refresh rate. Annoying to view - neighbor has it - hard pass. Run away.
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Aug 16, 2023 07:07 PM
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SmurfyGirlAug 16, 2023 07:07 PM
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It's been a looooonnngggg time since I've bought a new TV. All I (think) I want is a TV with a beautiful display. All I do is stream what I want to watch. No gaming. Not using as a monitor. Will this be a good TV for me? The entire wall opposite of where the TV will hang is windows from floor to ceiling. I've read all the comments and rtings but am not sure if this will work for me. Thoughts?

Edit: rtings actually says it's not a great choice opposite a night window. 😕
Last edited by SmurfyGirl August 16, 2023 at 12:15 PM.
Aug 16, 2023 07:19 PM
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raven066Aug 16, 2023 07:19 PM
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Quote from Jcwillia1 :
I've been an OLED denier for years. Thought they were ridiculously over priced for what they are.

Then I bought a 42" C2 for my computer and oh. My. God.

So pretty.
Once you go OLED, you don't go back.
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Aug 16, 2023 07:35 PM
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kd_thedealmanAug 16, 2023 07:35 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
As another user points out, it's not just gaming... judder from 24p video coming via 60p sources is another issue... (it can be worked around using internal streaming apps if they work for your situation... but 120Hz "solves" this by being evenly divisible by 24)

As to gaming- depends on your source again... Older, or even many current, console games you're not likely to have an issue... but higher end PCs you'll notice a massive difference uncapping framerate- and that will only get moreso in the future with stronger consoles and GPUs, so if it's a TV you expect to keep many years it's worth considering.


That said, the price bump from 60Hz to 120Hz is pretty big here, I don't recall the B2/C2 getting down much past the 1900-2100 range before they began going out of stock in 77"
Again, in my opinion you're talking fringe cases. If you have a high end gaming PC you must have spent thousand(s) on that and gaming is likely some massive part of your life.
I don't believe that if you put rock solid 60fps gaming up against higher frame rates, I doubt 95% of the population would give a damn , if they could see the difference at all.

And movie judder? Good points, but again, Not an issue for 95% of the population, in my opinion. Speaking of the future. I'd rather save the money now and get all that stuff included for the this price in a few years and then I'll have two TVs for what a C3 costs now.
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Aug 16, 2023 07:50 PM
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MostBasedAug 16, 2023 07:50 PM
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Quote from wills916 :
Just wait for the burn-in.
LG TVs have many features to mitigate burn in. I have a 77 inch B2 OLED that I use for gaming, and have left it unattended for many hours. It has many automatic safety features to prevent burn in.

Samsung and Sony TVs on the other hand are more prone to burn in, per RTINGS OLED burn in tests.
Aug 16, 2023 07:51 PM
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jmorrow1988Aug 16, 2023 07:51 PM
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Quote from acha8500 :
The only only thing keeping me hesitant is the 60hz vs 120hz. This would be an amazing upgrade for the bedroom… only watching tv and movies so gaming wouldn't matter. Is dealing with judder worth the savings???
Not worth it at all IMO. Even a 120hz OLED panel produces a noticeable stutter in movies due to the quick pixel response time. I can't imagine how terrible that would look when combined with the awful telecine judder you'll see on a 60hz panel due to the 3:2 pull down when watching 23.976p/24p content (nearly all movies and lots of newer shows).
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FeistyTerrier1426Aug 16, 2023 07:51 PM
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Quote from goj0 :
Overall 8.3 rating, not bad.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/a2-oled
Subject to burn in and doesnt have the same gaming features as the B and C series. Pass.
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Quote from Knightshade :
As another user points out, it's not just gaming... judder from 24p video coming via 60p sources is another issue... (it can be worked around using internal streaming apps if they work for your situation... but 120Hz "solves" this by being evenly divisible by 24)

As to gaming- depends on your source again... Older, or even many current, console games you're not likely to have an issue... but higher end PCs you'll notice a massive difference uncapping framerate- and that will only get moreso in the future with stronger consoles and GPUs, so if it's a TV you expect to keep many years it's worth considering.


That said, the price bump from 60Hz to 120Hz is pretty big here, I don't recall the B2/C2 getting down much past the 1900-2100 range before they began going out of stock in 77"
Actually, I got my 77" B2 for $1699 last year shortly after Black Friday. Worth it. B2 is the value sweet spot - C2 is only marginally brighter, and has a marginally faster processor. Otherwise B2 is identical to C2 and is a dream for gaming.
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Aug 16, 2023 08:27 PM
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OliveGorilla1463Aug 16, 2023 08:27 PM
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Quote from hanabie :
Refresh rate and brightness
A3 does not support HDR+
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Aug 16, 2023 08:30 PM
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oceanoneAug 16, 2023 08:30 PM
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Quote from blahbooboo2 :
Get the A2. For 1500 from costco a 77" OLED is fantastic.

wasnt the B2 already be $1599 couple month ago ? A2 lack of 120 hz is the only no go for 1500 i see
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Aug 16, 2023 08:33 PM
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KnightshadeAug 16, 2023 08:33 PM
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Quote from kd_thedealman :
Again, in my opinion you're talking fringe cases. If you have a high end gaming PC you must have spent thousand(s) on that and gaming is likely some massive part of your life.
I don't believe that if you put rock solid 60fps gaming up against higher frame rates, I doubt 95% of the population would give a damn , if they could see the difference at all.
Hard disagree.

For something interactive like a video game it's not just how smooth the playback is, it's how responsive the actual game is... there's an upper limit to how much a difference it makes- but 60->120 is quite measurable and real in actual difference for even the average player... (120 to 240 is much smaller and THAT is in the "probably irrelevant if you're not a pro gamer range though)


Further, it's not just the very top end GPUs that can exceed 60fps at 4k now--- so even relatively mid-range gaming systems would be wasting their $ putting out FPS the display can't handle nowadays.


Quote from kd_thedealman :
And movie judder? Good points, but again, Not an issue for 95% of the population, in my opinion.
Again, this is source dependent in many cases- there's LOTS of people using streaming or cable/sat box sources that only output a hard 60p so it'll impact all of those.



Quote from kd_thedealman :
Speaking of the future. I'd rather save the money now and get all that stuff included for the this price in a few years and then I'll have two TVs for what a C3 costs now.
I guess the question is how often do you plan to upgrade a 77 TV?
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Aug 16, 2023 08:33 PM
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n1kki6Aug 16, 2023 08:33 PM
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Quote from crimedog :
Are you saying that true blacks, one of OLED's greatest strengths, are a negative? Pretty remarkable stuff.
If you are looking at flagship TVs the samsung mini led also hit true blacks through the dimming algorithm. In any real world viewing scenario you wouldn't notice. But you will notice 800 nits vs 1500 nits of peak luninance.

I'm not going to get into a debate because their are gretmat options in oleds and mini led. But to act like mini led algothims aren't perfect blacks is silly. Here is my 3 year old qn90a. I replace 4 oleds with mini led and for my use cases wouldn't go back.

This particular model of oled would be bad any anything but a dim room.
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Aug 16, 2023 08:37 PM
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dragontalesAug 16, 2023 08:37 PM
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No, this is not bright enough in a bright room. You will be disappointed.
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Quote from acha8500 :
The only only thing keeping me hesitant is the 60hz vs 120hz. This would be an amazing upgrade for the bedroom… only watching tv and movies so gaming wouldn't matter. Is dealing with judder worth the savings???
This issue isn't unique to OLED, it's any 60hz panel vs 120hz. If your current panel is 60 and you haven't noticed, you probably won't notice here, even with the faster response time. That said, if your like me, once you know, it will bother you whether you notice it or not lol
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