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expiredGeeeeeeeek posted Sep 06, 2023 07:42 PM

Select Costco Stores: Members: Autel 40-Amp Level 2 Electric Car Charger

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$300

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Deal Editor's Note: This offer is available In-Store only at select locations with no online link available so we have no way of verifying availability or sale price but since members are reporting success, we have decided to promote this deal to FrontPage.

Select Costco Wholesale Locations has for Members: Autel 40-Amp Level 2 Electric Car Charger on sale for $299.97. Offer is valid In-Store only at Select Locations.

Thanks community member Geeeeeeeeek for sharing this deal

Features:
  • 14/50 NEMA Cord
  • 25' Charging Cable
  • Energy Star Rating
  • IP65 Rating
  • Mobile App Option

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Deal Editor's Note: This offer is available In-Store only at select locations with no online link available so we have no way of verifying availability or sale price but since members are reporting success, we have decided to promote this deal to FrontPage.

Select Costco Wholesale Locations has for Members: Autel 40-Amp Level 2 Electric Car Charger on sale for $299.97. Offer is valid In-Store only at Select Locations.

Thanks community member Geeeeeeeeek for sharing this deal

Features:
  • 14/50 NEMA Cord
  • 25' Charging Cable
  • Energy Star Rating
  • IP65 Rating
  • Mobile App Option

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1twinsfan
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The only thing this unit is missing is it appears not to be supported by municipalities that offer a low night time charging rate that is billed by the charger. WIFI connection directly from the charger to the utility servers to monitor usage.

Our municipality is using chargepoint and Juicebox. These two are fully UL Listed and I think that's the reason. Autel is UL Rated, but rated is not the same as UL listed.

Cable really stiff in <20F temps, but no overheats with garage temperatures over 110F easily this summer.

It's a heavy duty unit. Wifi and bluetooth work well, and you can actually hardwire ethernet on this one I believe if you don't have Wifi.

I don't have two units to test this, but I have researched this model more than many youtubers out there that do charging reviews. Yes it appears that two chargers can share one circuit based on load balancing. This load balancing is based on internet control to the two units, not control wiring between the two units. It's app driven through Wifi.

With data driven features and a dedicated app this is more powerful than the current Wall Connector in my opinion.
screamingninja
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See also: https://openevse.com/

Maybe not as inexpensive, but you can piece together your own EVSE (colloquially called "EV Charger") using an open platform, which I find pretty slick!
m3incorp
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Hmmm -15, I doubted I would be in the garage or anywhere else at that temp.

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Sep 08, 2023 04:32 PM
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pyroskater85Sep 08, 2023 04:32 PM
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Quote from starcaptor :
I didn't want to make it too pedantic. But the other coverages are the typical state minimums for a liened car in NY. 100/300, rental, full glass, mechanical breakdown. I could increase liability for a very small amount (actuarially speaking, the odds of someone having serious injury are lower than non serious injury, after all). that's why umbrella coverage is proportionally cheaper than the collision coverage in a car.

Apples to apples comparison was my goal
I understand that. For me I have high coverage limits to protect my family in the case their insurance doesn't cover enough, or worse they don't have insurance... which we have been in 2 accidents with both those situations. So having 300/500/500 comes in handy. Plus it's also the minimum for our umbrella coverage which ended up working out perfectly. Took a while to get there because they didn't like that we had a rott weiler. We also carry medical coverage and rental car coverage. Medical coverage is fantastic when you need to use it. And thankfully for use it only took a few months after adding it to actually use it so we came out ahead. It's only a few dollars a month but 100k per person. It's nice to just get everything done and have it billed to our insurance company and our insurance company goes after their insurance for the money. And it doesn't take much to burn thru that 500k depending on the accident situation such as getting bounced off into a parking lot or worse a building. And depending on where you live some cars are worth more than 500k. also for umbrella coverage it only covers them if it's your fault and does nothing to cover you when it's their fault. but underinsured/uninsured motorist will cover you if they don't have or don't have enough insurance.
Last edited by pyroskater85 September 8, 2023 at 10:36 AM.
Sep 08, 2023 05:40 PM
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SlickEnoughSep 08, 2023 05:40 PM
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Quote from jmarston4 :
Can you explain more or provide a link to an option you're referring to? I've researched EV chargers for years and I've never seen a 240v direct to vehicle cable option on vehicles. Am I misunderstanding?
60 amp circuit breaker wired direct to EVSE is what he's talking about.
Sep 08, 2023 06:07 PM
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ozziegtSep 08, 2023 06:07 PM
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Quote from bbgator1 :
Everything he said was true. Rivian charging speed does not debunk anything. Portable EVSE "chargers" are limited by the 14-50 receptacle. Always safer to use the wall charger, one less failure point. Wall chargers are usually designed for higher current, but the insides are the same. All they do is verify it is safe to turn on the power and provide a connection to the car. The real charger is in the car for AC charging. Charging speed is based on the lowest device in the chain.
The post I responded to is implying there is no benefit to an extra wall charger and it's unnecessary. Maybe if the wall charger is on a 14-50 receptacle, but hardwired chargers do charge faster than wall chargers plugged into a 14-50. So it's a generic statement which doesn't apply to all external chargers. That makes it not true.
Sep 08, 2023 06:42 PM
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vishnumraoSep 08, 2023 06:42 PM
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Quote from webdoctors :
Incredible deal! Great timing with the other thread on Teslas....
If one owns a Tesla, the wall charger is likely the best option or if price is important the Mobile connector that goes for 230$ is the best option as it also includes a NEMA 14-50 adapter.
Sep 08, 2023 06:44 PM
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vishnumraoSep 08, 2023 06:44 PM
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Quote from timsy :
If you're looking for a cheaper but simpler alternative, I bought this 7.6kW/32A one for $170:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9ZMV...tails&th=1 [amazon.com]

It's been working well for the last 2 months.
32A vs. 40A: many cars (including mine) limit power to 6kW or 6.6kW so 32A can be enough.

Its all good until there something that goes wrong. Lots of cheap Chinese chargers are available on Amazon. Given that these supply such large amounts of power, it maybe safer to go with reliable brands that are UL certified.
Sep 08, 2023 07:01 PM
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vishnumraoSep 08, 2023 07:01 PM
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Quote from twoweeled :
So this does NOT have the male charger for Tesla? I need to use the adapter to charge Tesla? Thanks
The adapter is provided by Tesla with all new cars. You can also buy them from the Tesla store https://shop.tesla.com/product/sa...ng-adapter
Sep 08, 2023 07:09 PM
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timsySep 08, 2023 07:09 PM
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Quote from vishnumrao :
Its all good until there something that goes wrong. Lots of cheap Chinese chargers are available on Amazon. Given that these supply such large amounts of power, it maybe safer to go with reliable brands that are UL certified.
Sure. Assuming you're not an Autel marketing guy, your preference is for UL rather ETL and ETL gives you FUD. Not sure why that is, but for others, you can look up the ETL compliance here: https://ramuk.intertekconnect.com/WebClients/ITS/DLP/products.nsf/$$Search?OpenForm

OSHA recognizes both UL and ETL and treats them as equivalent.
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Sep 08, 2023 07:19 PM
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raptor87Sep 08, 2023 07:19 PM
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Quote from webdoctors :
Incredible deal! Great timing with the other thread on Teslas....
This really isnt a good option for a Tesla. It requires a NEMA 14/50 outlet to be installed and has a J1772 connector so you would need an adapter to plug it in.

If you want to go the NEMA 14/50 outlet you can use the Tesla mobile connector for $230.

If you want to hard wire it you can get the wall connector which supports up to a 60amp breaker for $475

If you want both NACS and a J1772 connector you can preorder the new universal unit for $595
https://shop.tesla.com/product/un...-connector
Sep 08, 2023 07:25 PM
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moarKowbellSep 08, 2023 07:25 PM
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will this work with my MAC?
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Sep 08, 2023 07:26 PM
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webdoctorsSep 08, 2023 07:26 PM
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Quote from raptor87 :
This really isnt a good option for a Tesla. It requires a NEMA 14/50 outlet to be installed and has a J1772 connector so you would need an adapter to plug it in.

If you want to go the NEMA 14/50 outlet you can use the Tesla mobile connector for $230.

If you want to hard wire it you can get the wall connector which supports up to a 60amp breaker for $475

If you want both NACS and a J1772 connector you can preorder the new universal unit for $595
https://shop.tesla.com/product/un...-connector
Excellent info, thanks! The universal connector seems like a no brainer if you want to future proof for house resale or multiple cars.
Sep 08, 2023 07:27 PM
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ripwindSep 08, 2023 07:27 PM
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EVs aren't for everyone, but being able to leave every morning (if you leave the house) with a "full tank" is great. It's so much more convenient than having to stop for gas. Granted, long distances can be a PITA and you need to plan ahead based on charger locations, but for 99% of daily driving they're great. Especially anything with >200 mile range.
Sep 08, 2023 08:24 PM
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Core2QuadSep 08, 2023 08:24 PM
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Quote from cashcows :
Does that 110v outlet work fine for the 16 amps? Total charge time? I was previously told I needed to run an extension cable from my dryer 240 plug outside instead of using the existing 110 outdoor wall outlet with a level 1 charger like you mentioned...? Highly considering buying my first EV and not sure if/when I can get a 240 dedicated plug put in outside before we move. Thx
Technically you need a NEMA 5-20 outlet on a 20A breaker to supply 16A. Although you can also pull 16A on a NEMA 5-15 plug, and strangely some auto makers chargers even UL listed ones allow for 16A draw on a 15A rated outlet, which is very odd to me.

One big problem is cheap crap worn out 50 cent outlets in homes. If you are going to be using an outlet for regular charging especially at 16A, please upgrade the outlet to a commercial grade outlet. It will have more clamping force. In the past I've seen outlets yellow and melt due to poor connection. Extension cords are not recommended because of voltage drop and because the charger loses its ability to detect an overheating outlet (with temperature sensor) because that temp sensor is now on the end of an extension cord, not sensing the outlet temperature inside your house. So be aware of that, check/feel outlet heat regularly and you should be fine if you upgrade to a new quality outlet.

Dryer plugs do work, and you can get a dryer splitter that will actually switch between EV and dryer. You will be limited to 24A @ 240V on this type of setup typically, as they are run on 30A circuits.
Sep 08, 2023 08:25 PM
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vishnumraoSep 08, 2023 08:25 PM
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Quote from timsy :
Sure. Assuming you're not an Autel marketing guy, your preference is for UL rather ETL and ETL gives you FUD. Not sure why that is, but for others, you can look up the ETL compliance here: https://ramuk.intertekconnect.com/WebClients/ITS/DLP/products.nsf/$$Search?OpenForm

OSHA recognizes both UL and ETL and treats them as equivalent.
I know of UL only because my local utility company (SMUD) offers rebates, but only 32A chargers that are UL certified qualify. I had never heard of ETL. I will look it up.

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djdarumaSep 08, 2023 08:26 PM
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Is there an easy way to find out if Costcos nearby carry this?

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cashcowsSep 08, 2023 08:27 PM
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Quote from Core2Quad :
Technically you need a NEMA 5-20 outlet on a 20A breaker to supply 16A. Although you can also pull 16A on a NEMA 5-15 plug, and strangely some auto makers chargers even UL listed ones allow for 16A draw on a 15A rated outlet, which is very odd to me.

One big problem is cheap crap worn out 50 cent outlets in homes. If you are going to be using an outlet for regular charging especially at 16A, please upgrade the outlet to a commercial grade outlet. It will have more clamping force. In the past I've seen outlets yellow and melt due to poor connection. Extension cords are not recommended because of voltage drop and because the charger loses its ability to detect an overheating outlet (with temperature sensor) because that temp sensor is now on the end of an extension cord, not sensing the outlet temperature inside your house. So be aware of that, check/feel outlet heat regularly and you should be fine if you upgrade to a new quality outlet.

Dryer plugs do work, and you can get a dryer splitter that will actually switch between EV and dryer. You will be limited to 24A @ 240V on this type of setup typically, as they are run on 30A circuits.
Thanks friend

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