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EcoFlow DELTA Max 1600 Power Station 1612Wh Generator Certified Refurbished 842783111517 | eBay $559.20

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Great price for a delta max 1600 with expanding capabilites. can handle 2000 watts and surge to 5000w. also has the ability to add two extra max batteries bringing this capability up to approx 5600 watts.

This is a refurb with a 2 yr ebay warranty.

And before the critics chime in, it is Li-on but great for emergency infrequent use as a home power backup source for major appliances.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/14465114...media=COPY

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seahawks55
09-20-2023 at 11:53 PM.
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It boggles my mind why they call this a generator. It doesn't create power it only stores.
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09-21-2023 at 02:48 AM.
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Missing the word "not" before Li-on
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09-21-2023 at 11:22 AM.
09-21-2023 at 11:22 AM.
Quote from seahawks55 :
It boggles my mind why they call this a generator. It doesn't create power it only stores.
It does if you connect to solar panels
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09-21-2023 at 11:28 AM.
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Quote from JoshV2312 :
It does if you connect to solar panels

Sure, that is true. But doesn't make it a generator.
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09-21-2023 at 12:18 PM.
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Quote from DrSandbags :
Missing the word "not" before Li-on
Except it IS Li-ion, its not LiFePo4.
For occasional backup or portable use, Li-ion is the way to go.
For frequent use, LiFePo4.
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09-21-2023 at 12:18 PM.

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09-21-2023 at 12:18 PM.
Quote from JoshV2312 :
It does if you connect to solar panels
Arguably the solar panels are generating the power, not the battery.
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09-21-2023 at 12:44 PM.
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ECOFLOW calls these portable power stations. If they are sold as the solar panel + portable power station, then they call them solar generators. They just add the word generator to many of their listings on eBay listings to get more hits.
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09-21-2023 at 12:50 PM.
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I see these posted but I don't really get the use case. It's basically a UPS for your fridge and maybe a couple other things you could plug in? Doesn't seem all that useful.

edit - maybe good for camping?
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09-21-2023 at 03:21 PM.
09-21-2023 at 03:21 PM.
Quote from compliance :
I see these posted but I don't really get the use case. It's basically a UPS for your fridge and maybe a couple other things you could plug in? Doesn't seem all that useful.

edit - maybe good for camping?
These shouldn't be left plugged in like a UPS, not great for the batteries and too bulky.

The two main uses are emergency backup power, and off grid use (camping).

The first use is the main reason I bought mine. Wildfires, high wind events, etc PG&E likes to turn off the power for undisclosed amounts of time. Obviously, I have a generator suitable to run the whole house, but it's not a good idea to run it constantly just to keep the fridge cold, especially when roads are shut down and gas supply is dwindling. Instead, my ecoflow can run my fridge and internet (only communication where i live) for 28hrs on one charge. Run the gen for 1.5hrs and I'm good for another day. I also have 250w worth of solar panels to keep it topped off for those major outages.

Even for shorter outages, I'll plug the TV and fridge into it so I don't have to lug out the generator for a short 6hr outage.

Also a plus for camping, running lights around the campsite or when we have older family members with us to run small appliances they just can't live without.

These aren't for everyone if you don't have a use case, but if you do have a use case, they are great. Mine has almost paid for itself in gas savings alone, plus the PG&E rebate I got on it too ($500 rebate.)
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09-21-2023 at 07:41 PM.
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Quote from IndigoWinter2667 :
Arguably the solar panels are generating the power, not the battery.

This ^
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09-22-2023 at 06:02 AM.
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Quote from seahawks55 :
It boggles my mind why they call this a generator. It doesn't create power it only stores.
It does create 120v ac.... it stores 48vdc
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09-22-2023 at 06:12 AM.
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Quote from IndigoWinter2667 :
These shouldn't be left plugged in like a UPS, not great for the batteries and too bulky.

The two main uses are emergency backup power, and off grid use (camping).

The first use is the main reason I bought mine. Wildfires, high wind events, etc PG&E likes to turn off the power for undisclosed amounts of time. Obviously, I have a generator suitable to run the whole house, but it's not a good idea to run it constantly just to keep the fridge cold, especially when roads are shut down and gas supply is dwindling. Instead, my ecoflow can run my fridge and internet (only communication where i live) for 28hrs on one charge. Run the gen for 1.5hrs and I'm good for another day. I also have 250w worth of solar panels to keep it topped off for those major outages.

Even for shorter outages, I'll plug the TV and fridge into it so I don't have to lug out the generator for a short 6hr outage.

Also a plus for camping, running lights around the campsite or when we have older family members with us to run small appliances they just can't live without.

These aren't for everyone if you don't have a use case, but if you do have a use case, they are great. Mine has almost paid for itself in gas savings alone, plus the PG&E rebate I got on it too ($500 rebate.)
Can you solar charge or car charge it while using it to power a load, such as a fridge?
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09-22-2023 at 06:15 AM.
09-22-2023 at 06:15 AM.
It isn't that you can't use it for a UPS; some of these are a bit slower so they are considered eps. That said, keeping them topped off can have detrimental effects to its lifespan, but not specifically more so than that of sla batteries.

If you think about how long your ups batteries last (3-4 years, then it barely gives you 2 minutes) youre still aging out the batteries.

You can certainly set the parameters on these (not all mfg give you the ability to set the top off percentage) so that you could leave it at 85 percent for longer life.

Do realize however that these have non serviceable batteries, unlike real ups units.

To each their own (and I have many of these types of units) but I run real ups units for critical loads like the fridge and internet. You can get 1500w ups units for around 120ish. Replace battery every 3-4 years for about 40 bucks.

Realistically a lot more things are using lithium instead of sla, including backup batteries for modems, phones, and routers. I've torn apart second hand battery packs for these for 18650 reuse, and probably 98 percent still worked well during a charge discharge testing cycle. (with a sample size of a few hundred).

Those packs were in machines at full charge for most of their duration of use (3 years before the mfg replaced them). For them to still perform well after 7 years of being mfg tells me that I shouldn't be too concerned with overall longevity.
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