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expiredCashCroc posted Sep 22, 2023 06:07 PM
3-Pack Knipex Cobra Pliers Set (180mm, 250mm & 300mm)
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thank you, seems like i should get the alligators once they go on sale next time.
However, if youi're a professional plumber or make money from these tools, go for Knipex but for occasional use, no brainer, get the Doyle. They are virtually the same tool.
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However, if youi're a professional plumber or make money from these tools, go for Knipex but for occasional use, no brainer, get the Doyle. They are virtually the same tool.
https://www.harborfreight.com/10-...56748.html [harborfreight.com]
They may 'look' very similar, but that's where it ends.
I can assure you that the most important part, which is the strength, tempering, and the composition of the steel used is night and day different between Knipex and Doyles.
The other differences go into finer detailed aspects, especially in the machine work, which only a savvy and very detail-minded user notices.
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They may 'look' very similar, but that's where it ends.
I can assure you that the most important part, which is the strength, tempering, and the composition of the steel used is night and day different between Knipex and Doyles.
The other differences go into finer detailed aspects, especially in the machine work, which only a savvy and very detail-minded user notices.
Finer details? Please go look at it in person because I was just like you until I saw it.
For Metal composition and how it was made, maybe Knipex is stronger, but I also assure you that the HF Doyle isn't going to just break when used properly. A PCV pipe it is holding isn't going to win. Also, we're talking about regular people using this not a muscular plumber hulk who does their trade above us all.
Knippex price is almost twice more and definitely not twice better for regular folks.
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For Metal composition and how it was made, maybe Knipex is stronger, but I also assure you that the HF Doyle isn't going to just break when used properly. A PCV pipe it is holding isn't going to win. Also, we're talking about regular people using this not a muscular plumber hulk who does their trade above us all.
Knippex price is almost twice more and definitely not twice better for regular folks.
Knipex are for those that use tools on a heavy or frequent basis or those that want the utmost lifetime lasting quality where the tool performs just as well on year 50 as it did on Day 1.
The issue isn't one tool 'breaking' and one tool not. Nor has it anything to do with soft 'toy materials' like PVC.
For instance, I've used mainly top quality (and far more expensive, naturally) jawed wrenches/pliers that have such good quality and properly tempered steel, and machined sharply/precisely, that they grip your workpiece just as great after 30 years or so, as they did on the day they were new. That's what the extra money buys you.
What good are cheaper jawed wrenches/pliers, if after a few years of use they slip and slide on your workpiece, be it a steel pipe, bar stock, or whatever, and don't grip it with the 'bite' that's required for the tool to be effective.
I can guarantee you that the Doyles will have dull flattened useless teeth left on the jaws after even 10 years, as compared to the Knipex's sharp teeth after 10 years, if both sets were used heavily/frequently in the exact same way.
It boils down to... there's 2 different types of tool users, so it's wrong for each type to tell the other type what is the best tool for everyone or what's 'good enough'..
Harbor Freight and Doyles won't meet my needs at all for the performance and longevity that I expect out of my tools, while Knipex would be overkill and needlessly expensive for the majority of 'regular folks',
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