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I had a slightly older computer with an Asus B550 Tuf and I also have an Asus B550 Rog Mobo, both support PCIE bifurcation, and Asus sells the Hyper-M2 expansion card. So I was able to repurpose that old PC, + a few more M2 sticks to give myself 6 x 2 TB M2 Drives, and I can put whatever NIC I want in it.
But if you're looking for an excuse to upgrade your main PC and happen to have one that supports PCIE bifurcation, you may be able to just buy the $50 card and SSDs and breath some new life into your older PC.
A quick search shows that a few of the B350 or B450 boards support it too, but I'd imagine that with the whole new Ryzen 7000 series needing a newer motherboard with a completely different RAM there may be a surplus of slightly older hardware that could be repurposed for this kind of use.
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i think we can fry egg on this... with 6 m.2 nvme side by side.. its going to be super hot ...
I don't think it will get that hot because the drives will be operating at really low speeds, virtually idle. Even if you can bond the nics you could only push around ~540 MB/s to the device in total and as low as 90 MB/s to each individual drive. Double that over USB.
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I don't think it will get that hot because the drives will be operating at really low speeds, virtually idle. Even if you can bond the nics you could only push around -540 MB/s to the device in total and as low as 90 MB/s to each individual drive. Double that over USB.
Also N5105 only has 8 PCIe lanes, so are these drives all connected at 1x speed instead of 4x? Waiting for something similar with 10gb eth personally.
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I don't think it will get that hot because the drives will be operating at really low speeds, virtually idle. Even if you can bond the nics you could only push around -540 MB/s to the device in total and as low as 90 MB/s to each individual drive. Double that over USB.
Yes but even bonded you would need two devices pulling data to even get that much saturation. The maximum speed a single computer could get is only 270 MB/s. I think you are trying to point out how pointless this device is without at least 10 Gigabit ethernet ports on it. The fact that you have to step up to the 12 bay just to get one 10G nic unreasonably handicaps what could have been a great product.
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With 10gig switches and NVMe SSD becoming not-horribly expensive, the fact that a product like this comes with only 8 PCI lanes and a 2.5gb NIC is absurd, and whomever made the decision to cut this corner should be mocked mercilessly in the office they all work in.
Otherwise, cool idea. The nerd in me would LOVE a all-SSD NAS in my house.
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With 10gig switches and NVMe SSD becoming not-horribly expensive, the fact that a product like this comes with only 8 PCI lanes and a 2.5gb NIC is absurd, and whomever made the decision to cut this corner should be mocked mercilessly in the office they all work in.
Otherwise, cool idea. The nerd in me would LOVE a all-SSD NAS in my house.
I had a slightly older computer with an Asus B550 Tuf and I also have an Asus B550 Rog Mobo, both support PCIE bifurcation, and Asus sells the Hyper-M2 expansion card. So I was able to repurpose that old PC, + a few more M2 sticks to give myself 6 x 2 TB M2 Drives, and I can put whatever NIC I want in it.
But if you're looking for an excuse to upgrade your main PC and happen to have one that supports PCIE bifurcation, you may be able to just buy the $50 card and SSDs and breath some new life into your older PC.
A quick search shows that a few of the B350 or B450 boards support it too, but I'd imagine that with the whole new Ryzen 7000 series needing a newer motherboard with a completely different RAM there may be a surplus of slightly older hardware that could be repurposed for this kind of use.
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With 10gig switches and NVMe SSD becoming not-horribly expensive, the fact that a product like this comes with only 8 PCI lanes and a 2.5gb NIC is absurd, and whomever made the decision to cut this corner should be mocked mercilessly in the office they all work in.
Otherwise, cool idea. The nerd in me would LOVE a all-SSD NAS in my house.
The 12 drive version of this has a 10gig nic in it for what that's worth. Same processor so same pci lanes limitations though.
The 12 drive version of this has a 10gig nic in it for what that's worth. Same processor so same pci lanes limitations though.
Yeah it's still got those limitations, but even the NIC could have been better. The 12-bay version uses 10Base-T Ethernet, not SFP+ 10G which runs cooler, uses fewer watts, and is more futureproof.
I run an 8-bay Synology NAS with SATA SSDs and a cheap Mellanox SFP+ 10G card, and it works great. But to save space, I'd kind of like to move to a comparable all-NVME SSD setup once a more-affordable, better-internal-parts version is available. With a good SFP+ 10G option.
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But if you're looking for an excuse to upgrade your main PC and happen to have one that supports PCIE bifurcation, you may be able to just buy the $50 card and SSDs and breath some new life into your older PC.
A quick search shows that a few of the B350 or B450 boards support it too, but I'd imagine that with the whole new Ryzen 7000 series needing a newer motherboard with a completely different RAM there may be a surplus of slightly older hardware that could be repurposed for this kind of use.
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I'm considering moving my Plex server to something like this.
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Otherwise, cool idea. The nerd in me would LOVE a all-SSD NAS in my house.
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Otherwise, cool idea. The nerd in me would LOVE a all-SSD NAS in my house.
But if you're looking for an excuse to upgrade your main PC and happen to have one that supports PCIE bifurcation, you may be able to just buy the $50 card and SSDs and breath some new life into your older PC.
A quick search shows that a few of the B350 or B450 boards support it too, but I'd imagine that with the whole new Ryzen 7000 series needing a newer motherboard with a completely different RAM there may be a surplus of slightly older hardware that could be repurposed for this kind of use.
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Otherwise, cool idea. The nerd in me would LOVE a all-SSD NAS in my house.
I run an 8-bay Synology NAS with SATA SSDs and a cheap Mellanox SFP+ 10G card, and it works great. But to save space, I'd kind of like to move to a comparable all-NVME SSD setup once a more-affordable, better-internal-parts version is available. With a good SFP+ 10G option.
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