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Tesla Model Y Dual Motor AWD Long Range $48490 + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (For Qualifying Buyers)

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Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

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https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview

Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

Please use the referral link [ts.la] when you purchase one. Thank you!

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Oct 7, 2023
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darth_fader
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from ggapropros :
Theres plenty of model S that are over 8 years old. Model 3 is 2017, so you have people with 200,000 miles on it, which is close enough to 8 years/120,000 miles. Its NCA battery chemistry like the first model S. Ironically this is more time tested then most gasoline engines in a new gasoline car.
8 years is Dodge duration. Let us know when it hits 20 like one could expect from a Honda or Toyota well maintained. Not to mention, how many times over a 20 year period would one have to replace that 15k+ battery? Once? Twice?

I'll wait until Toyota breaks the barriers with a hybrid with simple engineering. Think they're on their 4th gen system now. THAT's already a reliable setup, but not compared to their gas counterparts. Run out of electric range? No matter, you have a gas backup. IMO Teslas just aren't practical unless you have a short commute and can reliably charge at home. But then why would you drop 50k on this, a few more thousand for the 220 rapid home charging system, if you have a short commute? These are just the iPhone version of the car world - status symbols for folks that don't mind inconvenience. At least apple provides an experience that doesn't burden the user.

I do have a low # Cybertruck reservation, but if they can deliver it when they're in high demand I'm just going to get it and flip it. Will post back when I have it lol.
Last edited by darth_fader October 6, 2023 at 08:03 PM.
Oct 7, 2023
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rodge
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from ph00nster :
They're not as bad as folks make it out to be. Also being an EV, noise issues are amplified
Just do a through walk through of the vehicle once delivered. Apparently once you go tesla, you stay with teslas. I'm tempted to get into one as well with all the glowing praises from numerous friends and family
I test drove a rwd M3, Model Y. Also did a overnight test drive where I got to keep the awd M3 at home. Wife did like the seating height of M3. I absolutely loved how both red and awd M3 drove. And it was pretty quiet. The interior is spartan but I'm totally OK with it. Waiting for prices to come down by year end as prices went up once UAW strike started just before the end of 3rd quarter !
Oct 7, 2023
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hocaspocas
Oct 7, 2023
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Paid 52.99K for mine in March. Great car.
Oct 7, 2023
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darth_fader
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from Tensoneu :
In winter just subtract 50% battery range loss (this is factoring in creature comfort and the worst weather driving conditions) otherwise it's usually around 30%. This is for all EV's currently.

2018 Model 3 RWD owner here, I use Nokian Haka R3 for winter tires. Handles better than Model Y AWD with stock tires in snow.
So basically they become 50% less practical than they already aren't. Duly noted.
Oct 7, 2023
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WHITEB
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from oppayah :
I saw the price cut on Twitter (X).
Makes me wonder why Tesla doesn't just advertise more if they want to sell more. Cutting price will only anger the current owners who paid $20k higher about 1 year ago. Offering a lower interest rate would be better than slashing price by 2 to 4%.
I am personally holding off because of the price. An advertisement does not help me in any way. I'd assume many people are on the same boat.
Oct 7, 2023
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crazymonkey1208
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Quote from reicaden :
How big is your town that you need 300 miles to do that?? lmao.
Not sure where you come up with 300 miles lmao

"Level 1 charging provides approximately four to five miles of range per hour charged."

https://www.energy.gov/energysave...rging-home
Oct 7, 2023
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hocaspocas
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For those saying installing a charger is $3K, it depends how far your garage is from your breaker box and if you need to run new lines.
You only need a 240-volt washing machine plug with their portable charger ($250). Everything costs me less than $500; you can get incentives from your state or utility company.

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Melonhead123
Oct 7, 2023
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Maybe I'm mistaken but I thought I read about upcoming changes in the tax credit protocol. Please feel free to correct me if I'm mistaken but I thought I recall changes in the credit policy that permitted you to receive the credit at the point of sale in 2024?

FWIW I purchased a model Y in June of this year. I have 4K miles to date and my experience has been mixed. It's been a bit irritating having no point of contact or call center to direct inquiries. The spare donut kit runs around $400 (it does not come with a spare). The monitor has frozen several times and the sensor under the right seat has failed repeatedly. The build quality feels rather cheap, as evidenced by the cheap plastic steering wheel levers and a few other pieces of hardware. The Charging door has become stuck half way and for some reason it seems to consistently lose Bluetooth with a Samsung S22. Having experienced so many build quality issues has been challenging, but I would be remiss not to point some of the highlights out.

I'm comfortable with the range estimates ( though they do seem to fall a little shy), acceleration is at advertised and unprecedented for an old timer like me, the carpet is a nightmare for dog hair but the seats nicely accommodate my 6'5" frame, the menu system is well thought out and accessible, the on-site support has been professional and courteous, the windshield is spacious and generous with a suitable line of site, the audio is phenomenal, and the screen clarity is impressive. I recommend downloading abettertheather app for full screen use. Given the price point, the applicable incentives, the non negotiable (which is to say dealer parasitic model) approach to the purchasing process has been a real pleasure, and given a few other pleasant surprises I would be inclined to purchase the product again.

To the engineers I would love to be able to see the simulated traffic on the left part of the screen show traffic to the rear of me rather than the front!!!! Am I missing something here perhaps? Also, I haven't figured out how to disable the seatbelt alarm while traveling with the German Shepherds. Having to pay an extra $1000 for white seats is a bit annoying. Lastly stop experimenting on chimps pls, I love the non leather component to the seating but your ethics seem ambiguous.

All in all I applaud the TESLA team for their efforts to move forward. Hopefully my observations aren't construed as unbridled criticisms, but rather sincere observations from an otherwise grateful client. We're all in this brave new world together, maybe together we can make it work that much better!
Oct 7, 2023
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aifan
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from greenday2049 :
Cavana offered $41,000 and my remaining loan amount is $38,000 It will end up paying off the loan since there would be sales tax about 7% Tesla trade value is about $36,000
So what's the total on the New spec Model Y compared to the old one?
  • Vehicle Price $48,490
  • Destination fee $1,390
  • Order Fee $250
  • Your Model Y $50,130
+ NJ Sales Tax
- $7500 Fed
- $1500 NJ Rebate
Any more addons like Tow hitch and wheels a second time? another $3000?

I would finish out that calculation. What's the big plus on the 2022 vs 2023 Model Y in your situation? mileage?

Aren't interest rates higher on the new loan versus your 2022? The difference would be another $ hit that you would take.
Last edited by aifan October 6, 2023 at 08:33 PM.
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crazymonkey1208
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Quote from hocaspocas :
For those saying installing a charger is $3K, it depends how far your garage is from your breaker box and if you need to run new lines.
You only need a 240-volt washing machine plug with their portable charger ($250). Everything costs me less than $500; you can get incentives from your state or utility company.
You might have to upgrade your electrical service panel before you even think about installing a fast charger, especially in older homes. Another big added cost.

https://www.westphalec.com/reside...e-charger/
Oct 7, 2023
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Tensoneu
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from darth_fader :
So basically they become 50% less practical than they already aren't. Duly noted.
The comment was more for winter in cold temperature (were talking 35F or lower). You use more gas in the winter to heat up a car in the winter before you can drive, sometimes you may not be able to start an ICE car because it's too cold, or if you're vehicle is stuck in the snow and you want heat you have to be sure your exhaust isn't blocked from smoke and die from poisoning.

In an EV you don't experience those. I can have my heat for comfort and not having to worry about dying from being cold if I'm stuck. I can just go without having my car/engine to warm up. I don't have to worry about not starting if it gets extremely cold.

I only experience range loss 4 months out of the year so it's not a big deal. I rarely drive more than 150 miles in the winter in a single go. Even if I did I have access to superchargers. If I choose between refueling my car I'd rather be inside my car than to stay outside in the cold pumping gas. Even this is rare, maybe less than 5 times a year on road trips.

Most EV drivers have driven both types of cars (gas and electric). Most will tell you once you drive electric you won't go back to a gas vehicle.
Oct 7, 2023
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smachine
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from BoastfulBook1373 :
We currently own all AWDs ICE: 1 audi Q3 2021, 1 Toyota Highlander Hybrid 2021, 1 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid 2018. Paying $200/month for insurance in WA 250k/500k & $2mil umbrella (+$30/month)

We are looking for replacing the Audi & Rav4 to Teslas.

Q1A) Which models suggest? *Best Winter Range* preferred!
one 7 seater AWD Tesla to replace Rav4 ?
one sedan M3 or MY to replace the Audi ?

Q1B) We live on Hills (harsh winter/ice/snow) - how are the suggested Tesla Models w/AWD fairs/compares on ice with Winter Tires & Snow Chains compared to those Toyota SUVs currently served us thru all prev snow storms?

Q1C) how much monthly insurance premiums or raise should we expect for the suggested model?

Q2) Enhanced AutoPilot sufficient for highway in WA and rural off-roads (like Wapato/Yakima?)

Q3) Also installing home charger - should we future-proof by install 2 stalls or 3 stalls now to save as bundle-build cost in future? Should we attempt install chargers & park them Teslas outside garages to prevent fire?

Q4) Heard about lack of parking sensors - should we wait for 2024 and beyond if HW4&later Tesla may brings back sensors? What differences between HW3 vs HW4 models currently on market?

Q5) extra misc: heard about Toyota 900 miles & charges in 10mins battery won't be on market until 2027ish. Does Tesla battery upgradeable from liquid-state (currently) to solid-state (future competition w/Toyota or ICE makers)? Or do we expect to completely replace the vehicles after owning it for 3-5 yrs (if battery-state-technology unexchangeable between liquid <#> solid)?

Appreciated your patience. Sorry about asking too many questions, from a traditional ICE family. Thank you.
Solid state batteries are a pipe dream. Toyota was anti EV for years and seems to be promising this breakthrough tech but has yet to show any working prototype.
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leroy_sunset
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Quote from BoastfulBook1373 :
Q1C) how much monthly insurance premiums or raise should we expect for the suggested model?

Q3) Also installing home charger - should we future-proof by install 2 stalls or 3 stalls now to save as bundle-build cost in future? Should we attempt install chargers & park them Teslas outside garages to prevent fire?
1C) My premiums with State Farm in WA are going from $70 a month for the same coverage level as you on my XC70, to $110 on my new Polestar. Ouch.

3) I would maybe just add a 100A subpanel in the garage. Easy to run whatever you need off of that for the future and you could get 2 "smart" chargers and plug in up to 4 cars with the charger taking turns or scheduled charging. Just make sure you run copper and not aluminum wire for heat consideration. You can hardwire (50A delivery on a 60A breaker), or add outlets (40A delivery on a 50A breaker). Personally I would wire 2 hardwire in the garage, 1 NEMA 14-50 plug outside.
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lookitsandrew
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Quote from beyondwatches :
Everybody thinks they save money driving a Tesla, but nobody will tell you the cost of insurance negates everything
Also the registration fee is double compared to ICE vehicles

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Quote from beyondwatches :
Everybody thinks they save money driving a Tesla, but nobody will tell you the cost of insurance negates everything
$40 a month more than my ICE Volvo's insurance, and I spend $400 a month on gas. You do the math, chief.

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