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Tesla Model Y Dual Motor AWD Long Range $48490 + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (For Qualifying Buyers)

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Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

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Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

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Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

Please use the referral link [ts.la] when you purchase one. Thank you!

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Quote from nookala :
My Model S battery with 140k miles failed, luckily had another month of warranty left..else would have been a 20k charge. I don't expect most of the batteries to make it over 150k miles.
Very much the exception, not the rule--- as already mentioned earlier- from two entirely different sources of fleet data-- even the older S cars are typically still good with 88-90% of original range after 150,000-200,000 miles of real world driving.
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Quote from make_moneys :
Not disagreeing but just pointing out that Upgrading a car every 5 years is not realistic for most people
It's not necessary to upgrade. But if you want the latest computer chip, then best to upgrade and enjoy.
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Quote from Knightshade :
Very much the exception, not the rule--- as already mentioned earlier- from two entirely different sources of fleet data-- even the older S cars are typically still good with 88-90% of original range after 150,000-200,000 miles of real world driving.
For model 3 and y battery warranty is 8 years 100,000 miles
I think model s and x are 8 years 120,000 mile if I am not wrong

Owning EV today meant it probably only last 12-15 years...
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Quote from Knightshade :
Very much the exception, not the rule--- as already mentioned earlier- from two entirely different sources of fleet data-- even the older S cars are typically still good with 88-90% of original range after 150,000-200,000 miles of real world driving.
I agree. On Twitter, many 2013 Model S owners have reported that their battery is still near 85-90% range.
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Quote from aznmixer01 :
Now I'm pissed. Paid $54,990 in March this year
Buy another one so you can get the deal.. may be that makes you happier
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Quote from ericeast :
You forgot the cost of a battery replacement around 8 years or so. That's between 12k-15k
I think that's similar to a transmission replacement. No every ICE car will need a new transmission, especially newer recent cars. The horror stories for battery replacement mostly came from older Teslas built in early 2013s.
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Relatively early EV adopter here. Bought a 2019 eGolf from a deal posted on SD. Traded it in for a 2023 ID4 Pro. Reasons I didn't consider a Tesla:
1. No Tesla is available for pickup in Connecticut.
2. If I buy out of state and register one in Connecticut the only place for service is in Milford which is well over an hour drive from me.
3. No Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. I depend on a lot of the apps on CarPlay.
4. Insurance was very cheap for the ID4. Not so cheap for Tesla.
5. 3 years free charging and 2 years free service on the ID4.
6. ID4 Pro doesn't have FSD but has every other feature: Kane keeping, blind spot monitoring, self parking, adaptive cruise control etc.
7. You can bargain with a VW dealer. Asked for and got additional 2k off.
8. Buying in Connecticut got me an instant $2,200 from the state.
9. Elon Musk
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Quote from NervousLanguage2748 :
For model 3 and y battery warranty is 8 years 100,000 miles
I think model s and x are 8 years 120,000 mile if I am not wrong

Owning EV today meant it probably only last 12-15 years...
Let's say your assumption is correct and the battery dies after 15 years, how much money have you saved from fuel and maintenance repairs when compared to a gasoline car. It will be a lot more than the cost of a battery replacement.

But let's also talk about pollution. How much pollution do you think you have created in 15 years by driving a gasoline car?

But let's really talk about something that's priceless. Do you know why an EV is much safer to drive than a gasoline car? There is no front engine to crush the driver and passenger during a head-on collision. Also, EV cars don't roll when there is a side impact because the battery gives lower center of gravity. If you have a family member and want her to drive the safest car, then you will want her to drive an EV made by Tesla.

If Tesla did a better job of educating consumers, everyone will quickly transition from an outdated gasoline car to an EV. Unfortunately, many people have no idea and believe the misinformation instead of doing their own research.
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Quote from NervousLanguage2748 :
For model 3 and y battery warranty is 8 years 100,000 miles
I think model s and x are 8 years 120,000 mile if I am not wrong
You are, somewhat, wrong.... the 3/Y are 8 yr/120k miles for the LR batteries... it's 100k for the SR ones (this is a weird throwback to when both used the same battery tech but the SRs simply used less cells)

The S/X are correct on the current ones.



Quote from NervousLanguage2748 :
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Owning EV today meant it probably only last 12-15 years...
<citation required>

Again- at 200,000 miles even the oldest-generation batteries are still at 88% original useful range. Newer ones are expected to last a decent bit longer (or a LOT longer in the case of the LFPs)

That's 14.8 years if driving the national average of about 13.5k miles a year.

(and also about twice as long as the average American owns a new car anyway)

The newer non-LFPs are expected to be good for at least 1500 full cycles.... at 300 miles per cycle (and most are more now) that's 450,000 miles.

LFPs are expected to last 4000 full cycles....which even on a 250 mile range is ~1 million miles.

Both numbers being WAY more than 99% of car owners will ever put on any gas vehicle during their ownership (and even getting to 450k will probably have involved one or more transmission and/or engine replacements plus all the other extra parts EVs don't have like fuel pumps, spark plugs, ignition coils, starters, fuel injectors, etc...)
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Quote from roberthhid :
Relatively early EV adopter here. Bought a 2019 eGolf from a deal posted on SD. Traded it in for a 2023 ID4 Pro. Reasons I didn't consider a Tesla:
1. No Tesla is available for pickup in Connecticut.
2. If I buy out of state and register one in Connecticut the only place for service is in Milford which is well over an hour drive from me.
3. No Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. I depend on a lot of the apps on CarPlay.
4. Insurance was very cheap for the ID4. Not so cheap for Tesla.
5. 2 years free charging and 2 years free service on the ID4.
6. ID4 Pro doesn't have FSD but has every other feature: Kane keeping, blind spot monitoring, self parking, adaptive cruise control etc.
7. You can bargain with a VW dealer. Asked for and got additional 2k off.
8. Buying in Connecticut got me an instant $2,200 from the state.
9. Elon Musk
I have consider ID 4 pro, around $42k but it is RWD .
Easy to negotiate since dealer got a lot of them in lot.
In Medford Boston, they have 40 ID4 in lot.

But I was scared off but horri stories about the software and electrify American. I thought they are still giving out 3 years free charge. Looks like VW is going to use Tesla network next year.

Message chair also another thing I was looking forward for it....
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Quote from Knightshade :
You are, somewhat, wrong.... the 3/Y are 8 yr/120k miles for the LR batteries... it's 100k for the SR ones (this is a weird throwback to when both used the same battery tech but the SRs simply used less cells)

The S/X are correct on the current ones.







Again- at 200,000 miles even the oldest-generation batteries are still at 88% original useful range. Newer ones are expected to last a decent bit longer (or a LOT longer in the case of the LFPs)

That's 14.8 years if driving the national average of about 13.5k miles a year.

(and also about twice as long as the average American owns a new car anyway)

The newer non-LFPs are expected to be good for at least 1500 full cycles.... at 300 miles per cycle (and most are more now) that's 450,000 miles.

LFPs are expected to last 4000 full cycles....which even on a 250 mile range is ~1 million miles.

Both numbers being WAY more than 99% of car owners will ever put on any gas vehicle during their ownership (and even getting to 450k will probably have involved one or more transmission and/or engine replacements plus all the other extra parts EVs don't have like fuel pumps, spark plugs, ignition coils, starters, fuel injectors, etc...)
That is in theory. There are some cases Tesla battery failures just after warranty.
Also battery not age well. Of course, can't compare to cell phone one but still aged battery will have some inbalance in the chemical and corroded issues.

There is tesla also make it more than 1 millions mile but the battery was still not "old aged"

We will never know until another decade there are more data about this
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Quote from roberthhid :
Relatively early EV adopter here. Bought a 2019 eGolf from a deal posted on SD. Traded it in for a 2023 ID4 Pro. Reasons I didn't consider a Tesla:
1. No Tesla is available for pickup in Connecticut.
2. If I buy out of state and register one in Connecticut the only place for service is in Milford which is well over an hour drive from me.
3. No Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. I depend on a lot of the apps on CarPlay.
4. Insurance was very cheap for the ID4. Not so cheap for Tesla.
5. 2 years free charging and 2 years free service on the ID4.
6. ID4 Pro doesn't have FSD but has every other feature: Kane keeping, blind spot monitoring, self parking, adaptive cruise control etc.
7. You can bargain with a VW dealer. Asked for and got additional 2k off.
8. Buying in Connecticut got me an instant $2,200 from the state.
9. Elon Musk
2 Years of free service on the ID4? Why services did you need for the first 2 years.

With a Tesla, there are no recommended services for the first 2 years.

Not being able to buy a Tesla in Connecticut is because your state won't allow Tesla to sell there because Tesla does not use a middleman (dealership) to sell cars.

ID4 is cheaper and sells less volume than Model Y for a reason. Test drive both cars and you will see how ID4 underperforms and their infotainment system really sucks. Go to YouTube and can find many videos complaining about ID4 ownership.

I stood in line in 2016 to pre-order Model 3. Got delivery in 2018. Loved it so much and bought Model Y in 2022. Now, waiting for my Cybertruck (I don't even like a truck in general). LMAO
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Quote from NervousLanguage2748 :
That is in theory. There are some cases Tesla battery failures just after warranty.
Also battery not age well. Of course, can't compare to cell phone one but still aged battery will have some inbalance in the chemical and corroded issues.

There is tesla also make it more than 1 millions mile but the battery was still not "old aged"

We will never know until another decade there are more data about this
What's your reason for being a pessimistic towards the best car ever created for the money. Can you tell me one car that's better (performance and maintenance cost) than $30K Tesla Model 3?
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Quote from oppayah :
Let's say your assumption is correct and the battery dies after 15 years, how much money have you saved from fuel and maintenance repairs when compared to a gasoline car. It will be a lot more than the cost of a battery replacement.

But let's also talk about pollution. How much pollution do you think you have created in 15 years by driving a gasoline car?

But let's really talk about something that's priceless. Do you know why an EV is much safer to drive than a gasoline car? There is no front engine to crush the driver and passenger during a head-on collision. Also, EV cars don't roll when there is a side impact because the battery gives lower center of gravity. If you have a family member and want her to drive the safest car, then you will want her to drive an EV made by Tesla.

If Tesla did a better job of educating consumers, everyone will quickly transition from an outdated gasoline car to an EV. Unfortunately, many people have no idea and believe the misinformation instead of doing their own research.
I didn't compare to ICE car. I owned an EV. Learnt a lot last 2-3 months about EV and battery..
Just stated battery can have issues after it's aged.

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Quote from oppayah :
What's your reason for being a pessimistic towards the best car ever created for the money. Can you tell me one car that's better (performance and maintenance cost) than $30K Tesla Model 3?
What is the reason you think I am pessimistic about EV.
I owned one myself.. I just stated the facts. Battery still with a lot improvements to come, solid state or more investment to getting better.

Where did i said Model 3 is not good?
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