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Tesla Model Y Dual Motor AWD Long Range $48490 + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (For Qualifying Buyers)

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Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

Please use the referral link [ts.la] when you purchase one. Thank you!
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https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview

Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

Please use the referral link [ts.la] when you purchase one. Thank you!

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Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from InstanceNoodle :
My normal 10 years old toyota camry already cost me $2200 a year. Insurance done flying up and up. I wish I can get a tesla for $2500 in Insurance.
Where do you live? That's ridiculous pricing for an old(er) Camry.
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odavid
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Quote from Knightshade :
Boy, LOTS to cover from overnight posts Smilie





why would you wait for a rebadged GM you can already get today that doesn't get any less crap by having a Honda badge slapped on it?





Tires sure.... Brakes, thanks to regen, frequently go 100-200k miles before they need any attention at all.




So same price as the replacement on my ICE Lexus IS350 was then... just as my insurance rates are about the same as the Lexus was.





None of that is accurate. You are confusing the 4680 cells (which are NOT LFP, and are made in the US) which are what was in the no-longer-sold standard range AWD and what is expected to go into the cybertruck.

LFPs appear in the current RWD 3 and Y.



But has hilariously terrible range and other specs, especially for the price... They're barely selling any of them because of how awful a proposition it it.





Good news then, since EVs are far less likely than gas cars to actually catch on fire.

Hybrids are worse than either of course.





Toyota has been "developing" that, and promising it'll be ready in a couple years, since 2009.

Every 3 years they repeat the same claim about how it'll be out in a few years.

And it never is.


They are way behind pretty much everyone in the industry in the EV switch- so they keep repeating the same "BETTER MAGIC TECH FROM US IN A COUPLE YEARS" to scare people into not buying current products.

Don't fall for it.




Again do you not have electricity at home? It's where most EV owners charge and it's vastly more convenient than having to stop as gas stations all the time. Cheaper too.






Where can we read your "analysis" since it's counter to every one I've ever actually seen published?

See also below for more debunking of exactly this kind of FUD






Your bottom line is grossly false though.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/e...n-engines/


In an ICE vehicle In total, approximately 75 to 84 percent of the original gasoline's energy is lost.


Ah but some power plants use dirty stuff to make power you say? Yes-- but even THEN it is far more efficient to burn it centrally and turn it into electricity for cars.

Even if the grid were entirely fueled by coal, 31% less energy would be needed to charge EVs than to fuel gasoline cars.

And of course only about 20% of our grid is coal- most is even cleaner and more efficient than that.





Except, there is. It'd be VASTLY cheaper to switch to all BEVs than continue the cost of a fossil fuel economy.

You can see all the math, over dozens of pages, here:

https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/T...Part-3.pdf








This, too, is flat out false.


Lithium is one of the most common elements on earth.

The US is home to what are believed to be the world's largest lithium deposits after those in the so-called Lithium Triangle region in South America

It's just currently CHEAPER to get it from Australia and other places, so we do.

But we've got PLENTY more than enough locally if we wished to mine it.




It's already changing. EVs are a majority of new cars in some countries, and worldwide just under 20% of all new vehicle sales already- and growing quickly.

https://cleantechnica.com/2023/08...00%20units.




Does your home not have electricity? That['s where most EV owners charge.





Which is a ton of cars nowadays--- Onstar can do that for example.

Unless you're using it to engage in crime though why would you care?
This POST! Best response to all the idiots that just read headline news and know next to nothing. Way to go!
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CyanHalibut2984
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I wish… lol
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BrianD1175
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Quote from oppayah :
Tesla can buy down the rates from the lender that does Tesla financing. Rise of the interest rates are preventing many buyers from qualifying for a loan. Lower monthly payments will definitely help sell more cars. Better yet, advertise to the majority of Americans who haven't heard that Tesla Model 3 can be purchased for less than $30K.
You make a really solid point in your last sentence. One of my investing groups had a stat about a new Model 3 being cheaper than the average new car from the big automakers. Totally blew my mind. Since, I have brought that up to a handful of people and I have yet to find anyone that actually knew or realized this.
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aznmixer01
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Now I'm pissed. Paid $54,990 in March this year
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ericeast
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Quote from ggapropros :
The AWD and range increase makes this a decently easy choice now, frankly these cars last forever, teslas ability to make the car an appliance means youll likely keep it in your family for years upon years, youll either give it to your parents, sister, kid, etc after 8 years. $4500 over 8 years is only extra $562. Its almost "regret insurance" at that point, if every year you get into a situation where you wish you had awd and slightly more range than youll kick yourself for not having gotten this. (I also think the LR has subwoofers and rwd doesnt... but someone would have to confirm that for me)
You forgot the cost of a battery replacement around 8 years or so. That's between 12k-15k
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mogul75
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from cloudiett :
I wonder if I should trade in my model 3 for model y. I hate all the interior noise from model 3.
Waiting for the new model 3 for this reason. We have a 3 and a Y, and I enjoy driving the 3 more since it is smaller. Y is quieter, but not as smooth and our 3 is a 2018 while the Y is a 2022.

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Quote from chunmanc123 :
For the people don't like Tesla Model Y / 3 and haven't drive one, you can rent one from Hertz for a few days to see if you like it before making a big purchase. So far, I haven't heard anyone complains about their acceleration, but more on build quality / brake / range / Musk himself.
cons:
Build quality is pretty bad for a 50k car. If you are comparing to another luxury segment vehicle quality of build, road noise etc are noticeably worse.

You will never get the range they advertise. It's pure bs. Think 10 to 15% less in normal conditions. Worse if it's not ideal conditions or you got a few ppl or towing anything.

in general since it's heavier you will need tires sooner.

battery replacement is insanely expensive if you need one. over 10k. maybe it gets cheaper with time.

tesla service centers are your only option for repairs.

pros:
the charging network and no need to go to a gas station. depending on driving habits lotnof savings in gas.

no oil changes and tune ups etc.

it's really fast if you like flying around the road
Last edited by Jaydawg October 7, 2023 at 12:13 PM.
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Quote from mogul75 :
Waiting for the new model 3 for this reason. We have a 3 and a Y, and I enjoy driving the 3 more since it is smaller. Y is quieter, but not as smooth and our 3 is a 2018 while the Y is a 2022.
yes best to wait for the new highland model 3 if you can. looks really really nice but might be 6 months before available in US and price might be a bit higher and wait list. but will sell like hot cakes.
eager to get my cyber truck. Been a REALLY long wait...
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NervousLanguage2748
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Quote from jaanv :
Has anyone experienced this kind of unsuccessful purchasing experience on Tesla.com?
Here is my recent experience. Not sure if this is unethical customer service practice.
We want to buy basic Model 3 Rear Wheel Drive vehicle and on Tesla.com and in new vehicle inventory page, for my zip code I found one available for faster pickup and is listed for $37,120 (New Model 3 Blue 18" wheel). I added charging accessories and submitted the order with $955 including $250 fee. Received text message to signup for the account and next steps. Also received email with invoice showing price adjustment of $4100.
We are excited to complete the next steps. We signed for Tesla account as instructed.
Then when login to account we see "Accept the updated terms and proceed to delivery" message. On this page we see a new price of $41,240 in very small font and grey color. Below that long message that a technology change that now cameras will be used for sensing and decision. Without realizing that this is changing the price, we accepted by click OK and continued to the next step where now we received new updated invoice of $41,240. We did not see any option when accepting this change. After we accepted and getting new invoice, then only we see Cancel option. We cancelled the order as the final price is $4100 more than listed price.
Then we contacted Tesla support on chat and first the agent acted like we are made mistake by changing the vehicle in the process but when we repeated the whole detail agent said I understood but I do not have detail on your order so I cannot say anything. We provided reservation number and vehicle configuration details. In few seconds the agent simply agent simply ended the chat. Then we submitted request in contact support page. Received a text message and an email. Responded to both and no response even after few days now. We lost the order fee $250 also in this process.
We see multiple problems here with Tesla advertising/listing/customer support etc.
Why would tesla list one price but then change it on the fly without properly displaying and explaining the price change. Why would support act like nothing happened and they do not care about customers.
Any similar experiences or we totally missed on how Tesla work?
I order M3 a month ago $37120, I also accept Tesla vision since they get rid of sensors... the invoice were $41xxx because that is the original price
model 3 base price $40xxx + white pearl multi layer paint $1000 = 41xxx

But price adjustment should also be there. Your total is $41xxx before adjustment delivery fee and tax...
Last edited by NervousLanguage2748 October 7, 2023 at 12:21 PM.
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Quote from BrianD1175 :
You make a really solid point in your last sentence. One of my investing groups had a stat about a new Model 3 being cheaper than the average new car from the big automakers. Totally blew my mind. Since, I have brought that up to a handful of people and I have yet to find anyone that actually knew or realized this.
I did a Vegas trip last week. Used Uber/ Lyft for more than 20 rides. Only 1 driver was aware that Tesla Model 3 can be purchased for under $30k. Many were shocked that 250 miles can be charged under 30 minutes.

2 Drivers seemed really interested in getting Model 3 and asked for a referral link so that they can save extra $500.
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Quote from ericeast :
You forgot the cost of a battery replacement around 8 years or so. That's between 12k-15k
Just because the battery comes with 8 years replacement warranty, it does not mean that battery will die after 8 years and need to be replaced. There are old Model S that's more than 10 years old and still has 85% charging capability.

Also just like a computer, it's probably best best to upgrade your Tesla every 5-6 years to get the latest hardware if you want to take a full advantage of FSD.
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Quote from InstanceNoodle :
My normal 10 years old toyota camry already cost me $2200 a year. Insurance done flying up and up. I wish I can get a tesla for $2500 in Insurance.
I pay $394 every 6 months for my 2022Tesla Model Y . But I have a perfect driving record and no history of being in an accident.
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Quote from oppayah :
Just because the battery comes with 8 years replacement warranty, it does not mean that battery will die after 8 years and need to be replaced. There are old Model S that's more than 10 years old and still has 85% charging capability.

Also just like a computer, it's probably best best to upgrade your Tesla every 5-6 years to get the latest hardware if you want to take a full advantage of FSD.
My Model S battery with 140k miles failed, luckily had another month of warranty left..else would have been a 20k charge. I don't expect most of the batteries to make it over 150k miles.

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Quote from oppayah :
Just because the battery comes with 8 years replacement warranty, it does not mean that battery will die after 8 years and need to be replaced. There are old Model S that's more than 10 years old and still has 85% charging capability.

Also just like a computer, it's probably best best to upgrade your Tesla every 5-6 years to get the latest hardware if you want to take a full advantage of FSD.
Not disagreeing but just pointing out that Upgrading a car every 5 years is not realistic for most people

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