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Tesla Model Y Dual Motor AWD Long Range $48490 + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (For Qualifying Buyers)

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Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

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https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview

Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

Please use the referral link [ts.la] when you purchase one. Thank you!

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Oct 7, 2023
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mysterioso74
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from cloudiett :
I wonder if I should trade in my model 3 for model y. I hate all the interior noise from model 3.
Did you see the model 3 Hyland version?
Oct 7, 2023
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SoCalBrewnette
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from tosave13 :
I am considering this but live in an apartment with no charging infrastructure. I might be able to charge at my work but I'm not sure. I see a few teslas in my apartment parking lot but haven't talked to the owners. Does this make any sense for an apartment dweller ? I can't imagine taking car to a charger every 1-2 week for charge and sitting there for a few hours for full charge.
Any superchargers nearby? Those usually take like 20-30 minutes to get you at 80%
Oct 7, 2023
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mm60
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from NervousLanguage2748 :
May be a lot people will get butt hurt.
But some people don't mind to pay the price.
Tesla able to drop the price because it put effort to reduce manufacture cost..

Those early adopters (pro tesla people ) hope them also invest to tesla stock and they will get their money worth.

Remember Tesla couldn't sell their car cheap back then, Tesla almost bankrupt back then..

At least, it is doing the job reduce cost not like other dealers putting market adjustment or add on charge consumers thousands
That is the price of progress. No use looking back. I remember that I bought 4MB (not GB) of Ram memory back in 1994 for $400 and I had to drive to the store to pick it up. Bought 16GB of ram sticks in 2016 for about $80 shipped to my house by FedEx. If you look at the value of the dollar in 2016 vs 1994, the difference is even more staggering. Early adoption helps drive improvements in the product and manufacturing driving down prices. If there is one thing I would not accuse Tesla of, it is price gouging. Tesla is trying to grow market share and reduces prices as it needs to. It is up to consumers to decide on when to step in. If people are more concerned about the price, they can buy a Mercedes or BMW, whose philosophy is to capitalize on their brand name and not to provide the lowest price possible.
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jaanv
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from NervousLanguage2748 :
I order M3 a month ago $37120, I also accept Tesla vision since they get rid of sensors... the invoice were $41xxx because that is the original price
model 3 base price $40xxx + white pearl multi layer paint $1000 = 41xxx

But price adjustment should also be there. Your total is $41xxx before adjustment delivery fee and tax...
Thanks for the response and screenshot. That is how the first invoice we received with $4100 price adjustment. Then after updated terms invoice do not show price adjustment. Please see attached screenshots,Attachment 14319901Attachment 14319904
Oct 7, 2023
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billshut2
Oct 7, 2023
315 Posts
Quote from flightxxx :
Why doesn't title say long range? So basically they got rid of the awd standard range and want people to pay extra $2k for long range if they want awd.
Not unusual for a car manufacturer to charge a premium for AWD, over FWD or RWD. My Tucson hybrid cost $5K more than the normally aspirated version. But it costs $2500 to add AWD to the cheaper model, which halves the price difference. Add to that, the fact that parking in an unheated garage in NY, I'm still pushing 33-34 MPG for a tank of gas (proven, not just the car's computer telling me that), and in the summer months, I'm actually getting 40 MPG on a tank of gas.....which is pretty damn good, for a vehicle with an EPA rating of 38 MPG! Winter MPG naturally goes down, because the engine has to warm up first (just the same as any gas engine). Normally aspirated Tucson has a combined 29 MPG EPA rating.

Personally, I'll stick with a hybrid, until the battery technology for an EV gets MUCH better. My car doesn't rely solely on the battery, but seamlessly switches back and forth, from gas engine to EV mode. So much so, that sometimes, the only way I can tell the engine is running, while I'm driving, is that the EV indicator on the dash turns off. I currently rent, so there's no way I'd pay to have an EV car charger installed in the garage, especially as I'd also have to have the service upgraded, to handle the load. No way I'm doing that on someone else's property! Plus, the fact that I can gas up in 5 minutes, instead of 7 hours of charging time, is a definite plus! Finally, with the horror stories you hear, about people in the snow belt NOT being able to charge in cold weather?? NO THANKS!!

Oh yeah, and my car was $10K less than the model Y. Applause
Oct 7, 2023
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kipper99
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from Knightshade :
Yes, if you engage in tax fraud you will have to repay the stolen money.

Not sure why you thought that was worth mentioning?

Or did you not understand what the fact the credit becomes effectively refundable means? Because that has nothing at all to do with the AGI caps. It means you no longer need $7500 in tax liability to use the full $7500 credit.

This helps LOWER income people, not higher, afford the cars.








And accurate per US census data.





They LIVE in such homes, even if they don't all own them.

You don't need your landlords permission to plug something into the wall.

The average American drives less than 30 miles a day, which, again, a normal 120v plug is just fine for.




No, I mean the majority. Again based on actual facts and data. Try them sometime!




Are you driving both cars, daily, 100 miles a day or something? Because if you're driving anywhere near average mileage you can easily charge both on 120v plugs as mentioned like 5 times now.

You only need 240v if you want to add an average entire day of driving back in an hour, instead of overnight while you sleep.... if you ARE in that case and own, you can get a 240v plug if you don't have one (or you might already have one on your electric dryer or stove and can add a switched port- unless you expect to do a lot of baking or laundry while you're sleeping?)
Dude, cool off, this was directly from the US treasury presser
Oct 7, 2023
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NervousLanguage2748
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from jaanv :
Thanks for the response and screenshot. That is how the first invoice we received with $4100 price adjustment. Then after updated terms invoice do not show price adjustment. Please see attached screenshots,Attachment 14319901Attachment 14319904
Quote from jaanv :
Thanks for the response and screenshot. That is how the first invoice we received with $4100 price adjustment. Then after updated terms invoice do not show price adjustment. Please see attached screenshots,Attachment 14319901Attachment 14319904
I picked up my car about month ago.. here is purchase agreement.
I am in MA, MOR-EV incentives also opt in when purchasing.

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Oct 7, 2023
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jd19
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Check out waitingfortesla.com for additional discount
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Knightshade
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Quote from kipper99 :
Dude, cool off, this was directly from the US treasury presser

But what you cited had literally nothing to do with what I was talking about.

Again, the credit is effectively refundable as of Jan 1 2024. It's not refundable in 2023.

This has nothing, at all, to do with the upper AGI cap, because the AGI cap never was relevant to that question.

Refundable or not only matters if you make less than a certain amount, not if you make more

The "makes too much" money part is entirely unchanged from this year to next. If you're over the AGI max you get $0.00 credit.

The big change is as of Jan 1 2024 if you make under the max, no matter how much under you can get the full $7500.

This was not true for 2023, if you made below a certain amount this year you got less than $7500 (potentially $0 if your taxable income was low enough)

This is especially significant for buyers in states where there are additional state tax credits for low-income buyers--- In 2023 it was very hard to qualify for BOTH the full federal credit and the low-income state credits. In 2024 and forward it's much easier for such buyers.


Plus Jan 1 2024 the credit also becomes point of sale-- meaning they'll apply the credit right at time of purchase as if you showed up with an extra $7500 in cash as down payment- thus significantly reducing your car loan (if you are taking one) and reducing the interest you pay on said loan as a result over its life.
Last edited by Knightshade October 7, 2023 at 03:40 PM.
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Jamesj562
Oct 7, 2023
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I'll hold off. My 39,999 cybertruck should be releasing any month now
Oct 7, 2023
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NervousLanguage2748
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from jaanv :
Thanks for the response and screenshot. That is how the first invoice we received with $4100 price adjustment. Then after updated terms invoice do not show price adjustment. Please see attached screenshots,Attachment 14319901Attachment 14319904
As inventory is not cheap compared to normal price, may be hold off until December ot next year..
Oct 7, 2023
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furai2017
Oct 7, 2023
14 Posts
tesla car quality is bad. the car had still many minor problem. i got tesla model y junk. no improvement get worse. daily driving let you charge 80% only. good luck with tesla junk
Oct 7, 2023
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jfk123
Oct 7, 2023
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Quote from Knightshade :
Yes, if you engage in tax fraud you will have to repay the stolen money.

Not sure why you thought that was worth mentioning?

Or did you not understand what the fact the credit becomes effectively refundable means? Because that has nothing at all to do with the AGI caps. It means you no longer need $7500 in tax liability to use the full $7500 credit.

This helps LOWER income people, not higher, afford the cars.





And accurate per US census data.





They LIVE in such homes, even if they don't all own them.

You don't need your landlords permission to plug something into the wall.

The average American drives less than 30 miles a day, which, again, a normal 120v plug is just fine for.




No, I mean the majority. Again based on actual facts and data. Try them sometime!




Are you driving both cars, daily, 100 miles a day or something? Because if you're driving anywhere near average mileage you can easily charge both on 120v plugs as mentioned like 5 times now.

You only need 240v if you want to add an average entire day of driving back in an hour, instead of overnight while you sleep.... if you ARE in that case and own, you can get a 240v plug if you don't have one (or you might already have one on your electric dryer or stove and can add a switched port- unless you expect to do a lot of baking or laundry while you're sleeping?)
We'll start with two simple concepts ostensibly well beyond your understanding. We'll start with the fact that, as I've mentioned, roughly 58 to 65% of Americans own their home. That's your quote census data. But as I pointed out in my previous post, NOT ALL OF THOSE are single family. As a matter of fact, only about 82MM out of 129MM of owner-occupied homes are single family. So when you claim "vast majority," you're doing that thing called, what's that again? Oh right, lying. Which makes your suggestion to me to look at the data even more hilarious. I mean, based on the nature of what I do for a living, I probably FORGOT more about the US housing supply than you ever knew, but whatever.

For those that don't live in single family owner-occupied homes, such as if they lived in a condo, they only have to worry about oh those pesky things such as wire routing, expenses, space, and all that good stuff.

Your suggestion that you don't need to own to install is equally funny. Even suppose a renter might want to subsidize the landlord by installing improvements, would the renter agree with again, all that wiring, installing and good stuff. Not to mention, the pesky fact that the renter probably won't qualify for the tax breaks for the installation that an owner would.

Just plug it in an outlet? Cool. I guess the renter would just have to deal with the whole 3 miles per hour charging rate (advertise by Tesla). Don't ever bother taking a roadtrip or drive longer than 24 miles a day I guess.

But hey, what am I saying. Don't let facts get in the way of your BS.
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the car is priceless
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Quote from Knightshade :
That you apparently didn't understand since the thing you cited had literally nothing to do with what I was talking about?

Again, the credit is effectively refundable as of Jan 1 2024. It's not refundable in 2023.

This has nothing, at all, to do with the upper AGI cap, because the AGI cap never was relevant to that question.

Refundable or not only matters if you make less than a certain amount, not if you make more

The "makes too much" money part is entirely unchanged from this year to next. If you're over the AGI max you get $0.00 credit.

The big change is as of Jan 1 2024 if you make under the max, no matter how much under you can get the full $7500.

This was not true for 2023, if you made below a certain amount this year you got less than $7500 (potentially $0 if your taxable income was low enough)

This is especially significant for buyers in states where there are additional state tax credits for low-income buyers--- In 2023 it was very hard to qualify for BOTH the full federal credit and the low-income state credits. In 2024 and forward it's much easier for such buyers.


Plus Jan 1 2024 the credit also becomes point of sale-- meaning they'll apply the credit right at time of purchase as if you showed up with an extra $7500 in cash as down payment- thus significantly reducing your car loan (if you are taking one) and reducing the interest you pay on said loan as a result over its life.
Per IRA it's not refundable and I don't know if IRS can change it,
Since it's a full credit, then it will be over refundable, people will get extra money.

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