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expiredchunmanc123 posted Oct 06, 2023 02:26 AM
expiredchunmanc123 posted Oct 06, 2023 02:26 AM

Tesla Model Y Dual Motor AWD Long Range $48490 + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (For Qualifying Buyers)

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Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

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https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview

Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

Please use the referral link [ts.la] when you purchase one. Thank you!

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Oct 11, 2023 03:44 AM
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Neurotic1Oct 11, 2023 03:44 AM
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Quote from mm60 :
Hard to say. The competitors have over 100 years experience perfecting build quality. Tesla is focusing on performance versus build quality. It is your preference. None of the competition has anything remotely close as far as efficiency of the internals is concerned. If you see Sandy Munros comparison of Tesla vs the Mustang, the latter has miles more electric wiring to perform the same function. This adds inefficiency and weight. If you want the best electric car, Tesla is it. If you prefer fit and finish, then Tesla may not be it. In any case, with these rebates, Tesla is a much better deal than any comparable ICE car provided you have the charging capability.
So basically you don't know.
Oct 11, 2023 04:17 AM
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AlexR7138Oct 11, 2023 04:17 AM
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Can't wait for NIO EV. It allows you to swap out the battery without having to wait at charging stations.
Oct 11, 2023 05:34 AM
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WifeCallsMeCheapOct 11, 2023 05:34 AM
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Quote from AlexR7138 :
Can't wait for NIO EV. It allows you to swap out the battery without having to wait at charging stations.
That will never happen here in America.
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Oct 11, 2023 06:08 AM
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Oct 11, 2023 06:08 AM
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Quote from AlexR7138 :
Can't wait for NIO EV. It allows you to swap out the battery without having to wait at charging stations.
Imagine swapping your brand new battery to an old one. No thanks.
Oct 11, 2023 06:49 AM
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Eagles89Oct 11, 2023 06:49 AM
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Quote from WWWarrior :
No longer true. It's a straight credit of $7500 without worrying about tax owed
Prices will get worse if they do it that way because everyone can get the tax credit.
Oct 11, 2023 07:19 AM
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srheartsOct 11, 2023 07:19 AM
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No prima day discount šŸ˜šŸ˜œšŸ¤Ŗ
Oct 11, 2023 07:38 AM
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garymeter48Oct 11, 2023 07:38 AM
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Quote from Eagles89 :
Prices will get worse if they do it that way because everyone can get the tax credit.
There will still be income limits with the new IRS dealership credit.

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Oct 11, 2023 11:05 AM
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BaaliBandapirrlaOct 11, 2023 11:05 AM
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Quote from pugxiwawa :
Why would I want to keep pressing on pedal for 6 hours when I can have car do all the work and I get to arrived destination not completely exhausted? And try driving that at night on local roads. The point is I have option to let car do the work, and you don't.
there's some time tested technology called cruise control so you dont need to keep pressing pedals for longer drives. Also the tesla doesn't do all the work by itself, even as Teslas claims. so don't risk your life.
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Oct 11, 2023 11:16 AM
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pugxiwawaOct 11, 2023 11:16 AM
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Quote from BaaliBandapirrla :
there's some time tested technology called cruise control so you dont need to keep pressing pedals for longer drives. Also the tesla doesn't do all the work by itself, even as Teslas claims. so don't risk your life.
What? You obviously have never used FSD. It is way more than cruise control. Does your cruise control change lane? Shift away to left when passing trucks? Exit highway? Enter highway? Work on local road? Stop and go from traffic light? Please educate yourself more on this before making such statement.

What does it mean Tesla doesn't do all the work by itself? Not making any sense. It literally drives itself.

I wish people like you would at least try out FSD before making uninformed decision based on the biased media you read or watch. tesla comes with free 3 month trial. Give it a try.
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Oct 11, 2023 11:52 AM
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meerkatOct 11, 2023 11:52 AM
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Quote from BaaliBandapirrla :
there's some time tested technology called cruise control so you dont need to keep pressing pedals for longer drives. Also the tesla doesn't do all the work by itself, even as Teslas claims. so don't risk your life.
It depends, Tesla adaptive cruise control , the counter part of cruise control, is not only free withe the car, but super reliable on highway, It is full self driving FSD, that is not fully trust yet, way to go. Different things.
Oct 11, 2023 01:06 PM
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KnightshadeOct 11, 2023 01:06 PM
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Quote from WWWarrior :
No longer true. It's a straight credit of $7500 without worrying about tax owed

That doesn't start until Jan 1 2024- buying this year still requires $7500 in tax liability to get the full credits value.


Quote from Eagles89 :
Prices will get worse if they do it that way because everyone can get the tax credit.
The income cap still exists as a hard limit next year- only the need for tax liability is going away--- The change is beneficial to lower income buyers as more will now be able to access the full credit (and access it at time of purchase so it reduces their loan if they take one)- doesn't help wealthier buyers who are over the income cap.
Oct 11, 2023 03:31 PM
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GaGaGeGeOct 11, 2023 03:31 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
So first- I deeply appreciate the clarification- you're right you can let multiple people be on the title and then have only one, so long as they file separately, be the one who uses the credit and only they are evaluated for if they qualify based on income cap.

THAT said, it's important if doing this to insure the seller knows which person that is, because they have to report to the IRS who "bought" the car for tax purposes- IRS addresses that in the FAQ here, question 11:

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/topi...%20vehicle

The relevant bit:



So assuming say his dad qualified for the credit and was going to take it, they could both be on the title but they'd need to insure Tesla files his dad, not him, as the relevant person on the sellers report.
Tesla doesn't care who to report or not and they don't even care who is claiming the tax credit. They will simply report everyone that is on the title to IRS and it is up to the appropriate qualified title holder to claim the tax credits.
Oct 11, 2023 04:04 PM
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cazic99Oct 11, 2023 04:04 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
That doesn't start until Jan 1 2024- buying this year still requires $7500 in tax liability to get the full credits value.




The income cap still exists as a hard limit next year- only the need for tax liability is going away--- The change is beneficial to lower income buyers as more will now be able to access the full credit (and access it at time of purchase so it reduces their loan if they take one)- doesn't help wealthier buyers who are over the income cap.
Again, this law is not set and will be modified. The proper way to do this is You must still qualify by owing at least 7500 taxes, only get around is if you did pay over 7500 in taxes year before but doesn't this year , that would be called a reasonable cause as you did pay 7500 taxes year before and reasonably thought your would again so you claimed the tax credit .

The guidelines even states 20 percent penalty for excessive payment claimed

Let's also think about this from a practical standpoint point, if people with no 7500 tax liability gets 7500 and people who do have to use their liability.

Should the people with the 7500 tax liability get the 7500 off the car but still keep that tax liability for other deductions? Otherwise it's 2 sets of rules , we call that discrimination

What would people think if millionaires receive same welfare payments monthly as low income folks?


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Section 6417(d)(6) provides rules relating to excessive payments. In the case of any amount treated as a payment that is made by the applicable entity under section 6417(af or the amount of the payment made pursuant to section 6417(c), that is determined to constitute an excessive payment, the tax imposed on such entity by chapter 1 of the Code (chapter 1), regardless of whether such entity would otherwise be subject to chapter 1 tax, for the taxable year in which such determination is made is increased by an amount equal to the sum of (1) the amount of such excessive payment, plus (2) an amount equal to 20 percent of such excessive payment. The increase equal to 20 percent of the excessive payment does not apply if the applicable entity can demonstrate that the excessive payment resulted from reasonable cause.
Last edited by cazic99 October 11, 2023 at 10:24 AM.
Oct 11, 2023 05:21 PM
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Ev02625Oct 11, 2023 05:21 PM
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the 2k drop will go to new tires like every 6 months.....
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Oct 11, 2023 07:07 PM
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KnightshadeOct 11, 2023 07:07 PM
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Quote from cazic99 :
So you will be ok with millionaires getting same welfare benefits as low income earners? Because if you give 7500 "tax credit" to people who don't owe taxes , that is what is happening

...what?

If you make a million dollars a year you don't qualify for any of the EV credit- there's a hard cap on income, and above it you get $0.00 in credit.

The 2024 change does not touch that, it only impacts the tax burden aspect-- and as such only helps non rich people who previously might not have been able to use some of the credit.


Are you... mad that the law that was intended to make EVs more affordable for NON millionaires is.... doing literally that?

Why?



Quote from Ev02625 :
the 2k drop will go to new tires like every 6 months.....

Weird claim... I got ~30k miles out of the original not-great factory tires, and based on depth measurements I expect to get nearer 50k out of the much better Michelins that replaced that (for about half the amount you cite as the cost of tires).
Last edited by Knightshade October 11, 2023 at 01:21 PM.

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