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4-Pack SAMSUNG Galaxy SmartTag2 Bluetooth Tracker (Black + White)

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Amazon has 4-Pack SAMSUNG Galaxy SmartTag2 Bluetooth Tracker (Black + White) on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

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About this Item:
  • Its design makes it easy for you to tag and carry your belongings
  • Lose something? Switch on Search Nearby and get guided instructions to your item's location via Compass View
  • IP67-rated water and dust-resistant
  • Stays powered for up to 500 days
  • Only available with ultra-wideband (UWB) enabled Galaxy smartphones running Android 11.0 or higher (Galaxy Note20 Ultra, S21+ and Ultra, S22+ and Ultra, S23+ and Ultra, Z Fold2 and up

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Amazon has 4-Pack SAMSUNG Galaxy SmartTag2 Bluetooth Tracker (Black + White) on sale for $79.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member tagtruong for sharing this deal.

About this Item:
  • Its design makes it easy for you to tag and carry your belongings
  • Lose something? Switch on Search Nearby and get guided instructions to your item's location via Compass View
  • IP67-rated water and dust-resistant
  • Stays powered for up to 500 days
  • Only available with ultra-wideband (UWB) enabled Galaxy smartphones running Android 11.0 or higher (Galaxy Note20 Ultra, S21+ and Ultra, S22+ and Ultra, S23+ and Ultra, Z Fold2 and up

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Oxides
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Don't buy this. It does not work with the google find my device system. Google should release theirs next quarter, they are just waiting for Apple to adopt the new location standard. Once that happens you will be able to buy devices that work with Apple and Android at the same time. Tile is planning a new universal one.
Warp5
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Amazon also has a single Smart Tag2 for $24.00. Considering I paid $30.00 for the previous Smart Tag+ "Also I just notice that the link stated - (Are Batteries Included: No) Hell Samsung is getting cheap, no chargers with their phones, and now no batteries with the tags. Really Samsung!!!
Kicktech
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Depends on which eco system you are in.

Airtag is best if you are in apple eco system

Galaxy tag 2 is best if you are in Samsung eco system

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Oct 14, 2023 03:15 PM
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JimmyJ6104Oct 14, 2023 03:15 PM
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I don't have a samsung device. Can this work with non-samsung Android devices?
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Oct 14, 2023 03:15 PM
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Universeisgr8Oct 14, 2023 03:15 PM
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Quote from Samwise Gamgee :
Probably some Samsung employee with power whose dumb decision overruled everyone else
They probably thought this would boost samsung phone sales. But they should know Google is about to release their product making this obsolete in less than a year. Perhaps when they started working on this product initially, there was no rumor of google tags and now its too late.
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Oct 14, 2023 03:16 PM
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iamhollandOct 14, 2023 03:16 PM
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Any 'airtags' available for pixel devices
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Oct 14, 2023 03:33 PM
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arooniOct 14, 2023 03:33 PM
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Will Samsung price match ? I have a $50 certificate
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Oct 14, 2023 03:55 PM
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SeriousAction218Oct 14, 2023 03:55 PM
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Does Samsung do personalization on these? I've gifted a 4-pack of personalized Airtags to two different family members in the past with their initials on it and they loved it
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Oct 14, 2023 04:07 PM
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ImWithStupidOct 14, 2023 04:07 PM
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Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank ImWithStupid

Just to clear up a couple of things:

At the moment, the best trackers of this type that you can buy are Apple Airtags if you own an iPhone and Samsung SmartTags if you own a Samsung phone.

If you own any other type of Android phone, Tile is the closest other viable option, but it's not ideal at the moment and you'd probably be better off waiting a bit for new devices.

The reason these are proprietary is because they require a network of phones that AUTOMATICALLY search for them without the need to download an app. (edit: was pointed out that you do have to opt in to the Samsung find network for it to function on Samsung devices) Both Samsung and Apple build this into all of their phones - so if you own an Apple phone or a Samsung phone then regardless of whether you own a smart tag or not, you're phone CAN be a part of the network if you have not opted out and will take note of any tags location if it comes within range of your phone. (via Bluetooth LE and/or UWB depending on the device.)

The reason they don't work on other devices is the same reason that Tile is a less reliable network than either of the other two: Tile requires you to have downloaded and installed their app as well as signed up to have it search in the background.

In a vacuum, Apple Airtags are arguably better, but they only work with iPhones. In the real world, Samsung smart tags have a large enough network that they will function more or less equivalently to Airtags. Tile has a far smaller network, so it can be harder to track your device with Tile - but if you must have a tracker for a non Samsung android phone it's better than nothing for the time being.

As far as Google goes - they have the FindMy network which is as close to ideal as you can get for the android system. They have announced that they will be opening this network to partners, so in the near future you will theoretically be able to use a tracker from ANY company that supports the network. Google announced partnerships with Tile, Chipolo and Pebblebee

https://9to5google.com/2023/05/10...e-network/

This will require new devices that support the new network - but at the moment no devices have actually launched with support for the FindMy network.

So in the future it will be arguably better to get a device that supports the FindMy network. But realistically Samsungs userbase is large enough that in real world testing smart tags work just as reliably as Airtags in most situations - so even in the future they will more than reliable enough to accomplish what they were designed for.

In the end, a $20 device that will reliably allow you to track any object with no subscription fees is not a huge investment. So if you do have a Samsung phone then these are the best you can currently get and they work perfectly well for what they are designed to do.

(Edited to correct that Samsung users need to opt into the network)
Last edited by ImWithStupid October 14, 2023 at 10:47 AM.
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Oct 14, 2023 04:13 PM
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OxidesOct 14, 2023 04:13 PM
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Quote from slickerCity :
Yes, as long as you have a Samsung phone, and someone with a Samsung phone passes by your truck so that the tracker ping can relay through it.
This isn't fully accurate. Samsung phones by default as shipped will not track smarttags or be part of the network.
Each samsung phone user will have to had loaded the smartthings app and enabled it. So only a small subset of samsung phones will be part of the tracking network, because most people don't do that.

I think on apple this is enabled by default. So all iphones should be part of that tracking network.

I am not sure about google's default optin status.
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Oct 14, 2023 04:26 PM
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OxidesOct 14, 2023 04:26 PM
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Quote from ImWithStupid :
Just to clear up a couple of things:

The reason these are proprietary is because they require a network of phones that AUTOMATICALLY search for them without the need to download an app or to opt in. Both Samsung and Apple build this into all of their phones - so if you own an Apple phone or a Samsung phone then regardless of whether you own a smart tag or not, you're phone is actively part of the network and will take note of any tags location if it comes within range of your phone. (via Bluetooth LE and/or UWB depending on the device.)
This is wrong.

https://www.samsung.com/ie/suppor...-smarttag/

"The Galaxy Find network is made from other Galaxy device users that have agreed for their devices to be used as Find Nodes. Find Nodes receive the signal from lost SmartTags and send the location anonymously to the SmartThings server, allowing for you to find your SmartTag no matter how far away it is.

To help other SmartThings users by using your device as a Find Node, you will need to agree to offline finding in the SmartThings app. This is an option you can select when adding SmartThings Find."
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Oct 14, 2023 04:37 PM
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JimmyJ6104Oct 14, 2023 04:37 PM
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Quote from ImWithStupid :
Just to clear up a couple of things:

At the moment, the best trackers of this type that you can buy are Apple Airtags if you own an iPhone and Samsung SmartTags if you own a Samsung phone.

If you own any other type of Android phone, Tile is the closest other viable option, but it's not ideal at the moment and you'd probably be better off waiting a bit for new devices.

The reason these are proprietary is because they require a network of phones that AUTOMATICALLY search for them without the need to download an app or to opt in. Both Samsung and Apple build this into all of their phones - so if you own an Apple phone or a Samsung phone then regardless of whether you own a smart tag or not, you're phone is actively part of the network and will take note of any tags location if it comes within range of your phone. (via Bluetooth LE and/or UWB depending on the device.)

The reason they don't work on other devices is the same reason that Tile is a less reliable network than either of the other two: Tile requires you to have downloaded and installed their app as well as signed up to have it search in the background.

In a vacuum, Apple Airtags are arguably better, but they only work with iPhones. In the real world, Samsung smart tags have a large enough network that they will function more or less equivalently to Airtags. Tile has a far smaller network, so it can be harder to track your device with Tile - but if you must have a tracker for a non Samsung android phone it's better than nothing for the time being.

As far as Google goes - they have the FindMy network which is as close to ideal as you can get for the android system. They have announced that they will be opening this network to partners, so in the near future you will theoretically be able to use a tracker from ANY company that supports the network. Google announced partnerships with Tile, Chipolo and Pebblebee

https://9to5google.com/2023/05/10...e-network/

This will require new devices that support the new network - but at the moment no devices have actually launched with support for the FindMy network.

So in the future it will be arguably better to get a device that supports the FindMy network. But realistically Samsungs userbase is large enough that in real world testing smart tags work just as reliably as Airtags in most situations - so even in the future they will more than reliable enough to accomplish what they were designed for.

In the end, a $20 device that will reliably allow you to track any object with no subscription fees is not a huge investment. So if you do have a Samsung phone then these are the best you can currently get and they work perfectly well for what they are designed to do.
I guess my early question relates to simply using the fact others have Samsung devices to find my tags even if I don't have one. Do I need a Samsung device to register the tag?
Oct 14, 2023 05:11 PM
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badkittykkrOct 14, 2023 05:11 PM
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Quote from Mr.Enigma :
No, but the catch is that it will only work with Samsung phone.
that's good cause i've only owned samsung phones since the Epic 4g Big Grin
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Oct 14, 2023 05:43 PM
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ImWithStupidOct 14, 2023 05:43 PM
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Quote from Oxides :
This is wrong.

https://www.samsung.com/ie/suppor...-smarttag/

"The Galaxy Find network is made from other Galaxy device users that have agreed for their devices to be used as Find Nodes. Find Nodes receive the signal from lost SmartTags and send the location anonymously to the SmartThings server, allowing for you to find your SmartTag no matter how far away it is.

To help other SmartThings users by using your device as a Find Node, you will need to agree to offline finding in the SmartThings app. This is an option you can select when adding SmartThings Find."
Sorry, you are correct. It is one of the options you can select when you setup your phone. My impression was that it was checked by default and that you have to uncheck it to opt out - but regardless you are right that it is optional. I'll update the post!
Oct 14, 2023 05:48 PM
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ditto33Oct 14, 2023 05:48 PM
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It's a deal yes, slick no.
Oct 14, 2023 05:49 PM
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ImWithStupidOct 14, 2023 05:49 PM
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Quote from Oxides :
This isn't fully accurate. Samsung phones by default as shipped will not track smarttags or be part of the network.
Each samsung phone user will have to had loaded the smartthings app and enabled it. So only a small subset of samsung phones will be part of the tracking network, because most people don't do that.

I think on apple this is enabled by default. So all iphones should be part of that tracking network.

I am not sure about google's default optin status.
Correct, my bad. Technically I believe Apple, Samsung and Google all require consent - although I believe it is generally a checkbox presented to everyone when you setup your phone.

Regardless, it is optional and I have corrected my original post to reflect that.

Thanks!
Oct 14, 2023 06:28 PM
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throllyOct 14, 2023 06:28 PM
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Quote from Warp5 :
Amazon also has a single Smart Tag2 for $24.00. Considering I paid $30.00 for the previous Smart Tag+ "Also I just notice that the link stated - (Are Batteries Included: No) Hell Samsung is getting cheap, no chargers with their phones, and now no batteries with the tags. Really Samsung!!!
Quote from jeffricks2051 :
I was wondering if you could replace the battery. Reading your comment is How I learned I can. Great news.
They do have a replaceable CR2032 coin battery.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2...ag-for-30/

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Oct 14, 2023 06:44 PM
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carbonfiberOct 14, 2023 06:44 PM
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airtag is way better because of the users, you can have an old iPhone and it will connect to them.
i mainly use my Galaxy but I have an old iPhone as my backup and to use to track my airtags
I also bought Samsung tags a year before airtags, the difference is night and day.
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