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XFINITY Moto Razr 2023 $400 off with UPGRADE *NO TRADE IN REQD* $8.33 per month $199.99

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Hey all,

Thought this was a solid deal. Most companies do very little cheap phones for upgrades or require a good phone to trade in and you still pay $400+. If you are an Xfinity mobile customer this is a pretty warm deal to grab a pretty well-spec'd phone (Snap dragon 7450, 8GB of RAM w/ a 64MP camera) without breaking the bank. I'm sure other companies are doing close to the same thing, so look to see if others have an upgrade deal as well.

I just got this delivered last week and it's a pretty good phone for mid/high end. Flip feels nice, missed all the moto gestures you can do with their phones and it feels/performs nice. Reviews give it a good score as well.



https://www.xfinity.com/mobile/sh...ge%20Green
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10-24-2023 at 05:12 AM.
10-24-2023 at 05:12 AM.
Not worth it without guaranteed updates. Pixel is much better long-term.
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10-24-2023 at 10:56 AM.
10-24-2023 at 10:56 AM.
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Not worth it without guaranteed updates. Pixel is much better long-term.
I think I had heard it's 3 years. I'd only keep it for two, maybe 2.5
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10-24-2023 at 11:00 AM.
10-24-2023 at 11:00 AM.
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Not worth it without guaranteed updates. Pixel is much better long-term.

Lol if you can trust that shill 7 year line!
Google Onepass lol
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10-24-2023 at 11:09 AM.
10-24-2023 at 11:09 AM.
I see the same / similar pricing ($400 off - effective price of $199) on multiple providers; Boost mobile, Cricket, metro by t-mo).

Yes, it's a deal relative to the "unlocked price" on the Motorola.com webstore. That said - all of these require port in; sign up on a plan; and a minimum period to unlock which varies between 6 months (Cricket and Metro); 1 year (Boost) and 2 years (XM, because the $400 off is bill credits).

For an XM By-the-Gig customer who wants this phone - reasonable offer; but the "no trade in" makes it a little less attractive.

For a customer who wants to unlock and use elsewhere - some of the other offers may be better.
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10-24-2023 at 12:23 PM.
10-24-2023 at 12:23 PM.
Quote from nkrishnasg :
I see the same / similar pricing ($400 off - effective price of $199) on multiple providers; Boost mobile, Cricket, metro by t-mo).

Yes, it's a deal relative to the "unlocked price" on the Motorola.com webstore. That said - all of these require port in; sign up on a plan; and a minimum period to unlock which varies between 6 months (Cricket and Metro); 1 year (Boost) and 2 years (XM, because the $400 off is bill credits).

For an XM By-the-Gig customer who wants this phone - reasonable offer; but the "no trade in" makes it a little less attractive.

For a customer who wants to unlock and use elsewhere - some of the other offers may be better.
Looking for advice on the cheapest route to add a 5th line on XM. We have (4) lines on XM and just recently moved one of those (4) lines onto an unlimited line which runs us $30 per month. It sounds like if we add a 5th line it would drop that unlimited line down to $20 per month. Basically I would like to add this 5th line just to get another $10 off per month on the unlimited line. The taxes and fees on a line here only runs around $2.00 per month so still a decent savings net, net.

Do I need to port over a phone number for that 5th line or will XM give me a new number for that line? Probably won't use the 5th line much (if at all) so not sure how to make this happen.

Thoughts and suggestions?
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10-24-2023 at 06:06 PM.
10-24-2023 at 06:06 PM.
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Looking for advice on the cheapest route to add a 5th line on XM. We have (4) lines on XM and just recently moved one of those (4) lines onto an unlimited line which runs us $30 per month. It sounds like if we add a 5th line it would drop that unlimited line down to $20 per month. Basically I would like to add this 5th line just to get another $10 off per month on the unlimited line. The taxes and fees on a line here only runs around $2.00 per month so still a decent savings net, net.

Do I need to port over a phone number for that 5th line or will XM give me a new number for that line? Probably won't use the 5th line much (if at all) so not sure how to make this happen.

Thoughts and suggestions?
Definitely adding a line on XM (especially since you already have BTG) would drop $10 on the unlimited line with minimal cost (taxes and fees).

You can add a 5th line without porting; but then you'd need to either bring your own phone or pay extra for a phone from XM. The cheapest one currently offered by XM is the Moto G play at $100.

Right now - I don't see any "free" phones or BYOD prepaid card offers from XM (which is surprising; till recently they had the A14 5G as a free phone with port in, and upto 2 months ago had a $100 prepaid card offer).

It may make sense to wait for another week (current "deals" are the Razr upto 27th and the Pixels upto 31st) - they MAY come with other promos next month as Black Friday nears. If they do - you can pick up a number for porting from Numberbarn or activate a one month plan from Tello etc; at a cost of less than $10, you can get a number to port in which would give you the benefit with a free phone offer or a BYOD prepaid card offer.

OTOH - if you do have a spare phone that can be used on XM and which they would accept - just go ahead and add a new line with a number from them.

Best wishes.
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10-24-2023 at 08:31 PM.
10-24-2023 at 08:31 PM.
Quote from nkrishnasg :
Definitely adding a line on XM (especially since you already have BTG) would drop $10 on the unlimited line with minimal cost (taxes and fees).

You can add a 5th line without porting; but then you'd need to either bring your own phone or pay extra for a phone from XM. The cheapest one currently offered by XM is the Moto G play at $100.

Right now - I don't see any "free" phones or BYOD prepaid card offers from XM (which is surprising; till recently they had the A14 5G as a free phone with port in, and upto 2 months ago had a $100 prepaid card offer).

It may make sense to wait for another week (current "deals" are the Razr upto 27th and the Pixels upto 31st) - they MAY come with other promos next month as Black Friday nears. If they do - you can pick up a number for porting from Numberbarn or activate a one month plan from Tello etc; at a cost of less than $10, you can get a number to port in which would give you the benefit with a free phone offer or a BYOD prepaid card offer.

OTOH - if you do have a spare phone that can be used on XM and which they would accept - just go ahead and add a new line with a number from them.

Best wishes.
Thank you for the very detailed reply. I'm not in a rush so I can wait and see if some new deals pop up closer to Black Friday, etc. I guess it would probably make sense to acquire a new that I can port over to take advantage of a deal. You mention Numberbarn but I have never heard of them. Would I get to pick the area code for a new I would like to purchase from them?
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10-24-2023 at 10:44 PM.
10-24-2023 at 10:44 PM.
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Thank you for the very detailed reply. I'm not in a rush so I can wait and see if some new deals pop up closer to Black Friday, etc. I guess it would probably make sense to acquire a new that I can port over to take advantage of a deal. You mention Numberbarn but I have never heard of them. Would I get to pick the area code for a new I would like to purchase from them?
Numberbarn allows you to search by area code ./ state / patterns (like ending with 1234 etc.). Prices are shown for each number on offer; lowest is $5, plus a $2 "port plan" fee for 1 month.

Go across, take a look at the site and run a search; you don't need to buy now, but it will give you an idea of what you can get.

Another option : if you can get a google voice number using any of your existing phones + email : GV numbers can be ported out at $3. GV also allows you to search by area code; though there may be some area codes where they don't have numbers.
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10-26-2023 at 11:10 PM.
10-26-2023 at 11:10 PM.
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Lol if you can trust that shill 7 year line!
Google Onepass lol
This is really silly, Android has 73% of the global market share. It's going to be here in 7 years! Even if pixels are discontinued in 4 or 5 years, they're going to be able to honor their 7 years of Android updates... Obviously they're not going to just nuke Android when it literally is being used by nearly 3/4 of the world. Only in the United States does it not dominate market share.

Motorola is notoriously last in class for providing updates, pixel lineups have been among or at the top of the class for updates the entire time and they have never broken an update promise on their pixel devices going eight generations in.

Look I get it Google has a very spotty record with maintaining their software services support. But it is really silly to think they're just going to abandon 73% of the global market and stop making Android versions in the next 7 years. It's just ridiculous.Of course Pixel is a better option for people that care about software updates over Motorola.

That said Motorola, with pressure from Google and Samsung and others, has increased their promise to 4 years of security patches and three OS updates. They unfortunately have broken promises with updates in the past like the Moto pure was supposed to get Android 12 and never did.

But if you want a flippable phone, they are at least catching up with sort of the minimum viable of 3 years of OS updates and 4 years of security patches.

I think you mean to reference pixel pass which was just a way to bundle services with your financed phone. Nobody was deprived of anything.
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10-26-2023 at 11:13 PM.
10-26-2023 at 11:13 PM.
Quote from DrRad :
Not worth it without guaranteed updates. Pixel is much better long-term.
Motorola has since up to their software promise to 3 OS updates and four security patches. I agree it's not as good as pixel or Samsung or offering in terms of updates but good luck finding a flippable phone at 200 bucks from them...

If you wanted to flip a bowl phone from Samsung if that price you would have to buy a used Galaxy flip 3 and that would only have two or three years of security patches left. .

Motorola deserves plenty of criticism for poor updates in the past but they have along with most other Android manufacturers increase their promises on these phones to four years of security patches and 3 years of OS updates.

It's perfectly reasonable for someone to buy this phone. I would probably choose a pixel over it but I don't want a phone that flips in half and people that do won't be interested in a pixel.
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10-26-2023 at 11:15 PM.
10-26-2023 at 11:15 PM.
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I think I had heard it's 3 years. I'd only keep it for two, maybe 2.5
They're promising 3 years of OS updates in 4 years of security patches. Honestly even after the last security patch the phone will still be usable, it'll get Google Play service updates in perpetuity. Motorola has finally caught up, in the past they had a laughable update schedule of only promising one or sometimes two OS updates.

Asus even has now increased their offering to four years of security patches although they're still only offering two OS updates.

But now that pixel has increased their offering to 7 0S updates I imagine other people are going to be keeping up or at least getting closer. One plus is offering 5 years of security patches in 4 years of OS updates just like Samsung.

Xiaomi is offering 4 years of OS updates and 5 years of security patches..


And of course unlike iPhone, app updates or decoupled from OS updates so all of these devices will get quarterly Google Play service updates in perpetuity and be running modern apps for probably a decade
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10-27-2023 at 02:50 PM.
10-27-2023 at 02:50 PM.
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They're promising 3 years of OS updates in 4 years of security patches. Honestly even after the last security patch the phone will still be usable, it'll get Google Play service updates in perpetuity. Motorola has finally caught up, in the past they had a laughable update schedule of only promising one or sometimes two OS updates.

Asus even has now increased their offering to four years of security patches although they're still only offering two OS updates.

But now that pixel has increased their offering to 7 0S updates I imagine other people are going to be keeping up or at least getting closer. One plus is offering 5 years of security patches in 4 years of OS updates just like Samsung.

Xiaomi is offering 4 years of OS updates and 5 years of security patches..


And of course unlike iPhone, app updates or decoupled from OS updates so all of these devices will get quarterly Google Play service updates in perpetuity and be running modern apps for probably a decade
iOS app updates are not coupled with iOS updates, it is up to the App Developer to pick the lowest iOS version they would want to support, same as Android.

Android support has never been great, Pixel 7 released in 2022 only has a shelf life of 3 years till 2025. Even Google's 7 year promise, it is still way worse than iOS devices. iPhone 6s (released in 2015) still get the latest security updates yesterday like the newest iOS devices.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222
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11-07-2023 at 11:26 AM.
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Numberbarn allows you to search by area code ./ state / patterns (like ending with 1234 etc.). Prices are shown for each number on offer; lowest is $5, plus a $2 "port plan" fee for 1 month.

Go across, take a look at the site and run a search; you don't need to buy now, but it will give you an idea of what you can get.

Another option : if you can get a google voice number using any of your existing phones + email : GV numbers can be ported out at $3. GV also allows you to search by area code; though there may be some area codes where they don't have numbers.
Just wanted to follow up on this about obtaining a GV#. If I do so do I already need a phone where I can house the google voice#? My interest in obtaining a GV# is to be able to port that #out to XM so I can use it for a 5th line to lower the cost of my Unlimited plans. Ideally I would like to obtain the GV# and then be able to port it over to XM when they have some sort of promo going on (ie GC for porting in a line,etc). Just wondering how the logisticis of this work? If I get a GV# can I just port if out to XM right away for do I need to house that GV# first (for lack of a better word).

I may have an old phone laying around to use for a 5th XM line or I may have to see if they offer a free phone deal I can utilize.
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11-07-2023 at 01:18 PM.
11-07-2023 at 01:18 PM.
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Just wanted to follow up on this about obtaining a GV#. If I do so do I already need a phone where I can house the google voice#? My interest in obtaining a GV# is to be able to port that #out to XM so I can use it for a 5th line to lower the cost of my Unlimited plans. Ideally I would like to obtain the GV# and then be able to port it over to XM when they have some sort of promo going on (ie GC for porting in a line,etc). Just wondering how the logisticis of this work? If I get a GV# can I just port if out to XM right away for do I need to house that GV# first (for lack of a better word).

I may have an old phone laying around to use for a 5th XM line or I may have to see if they offer a free phone deal I can utilize.
You can get a GV number by using a gmail id that currently doesn't have a GV number associated with it; you would also need to verify using a regular cell number (If you've already used your number to verify for GV earlier, that may not work).

Once you've verified : you can either forward calls to a cell number (can be the same as a verification number, or other); or just use it as is over web / GV app. You don't need a separate phone at this point of time

WHEN you are ready to port : you need to pay $3 to unlock the number and get the port details (account number / pin). You'd provide that to XM when you add the line.
Currently XM appears to have the Moto G Stylus 5G as a "free after bill credits" phone when you add a line. I haven't seen the "BYOD prepaid card" offer for at least 3 months plus now; IDK if they will bring it back or when.

Current offers are also $500 off Samsung phones or 400 off Pixel 8 pro.
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