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Model: Southwire 25890002 2589SW0002 Outdoor Cord-12/3 SJTW Heavy Duty 3 Prong Extension Cord, Water Resistant Vinyl Jacket, for Commercial Use and Major Appliances, Foot, Yellow, 100 Feet, Ft
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Almost pulled the trigger, but just read the following on a Garage Journal Forum "Ridgid and Southwire Extension Cords" thread and got an education:
"The reason these are so inexpensive is the type of insulation that was used. SJTW. It is thermoplastic. Better cords are SJOOW, use a synthetic rubber insulation that make them more flexible, especially in colder weather. Both of these cords are "weather resistant" but the more expensive one insulation is "oil resistant" on the inner and outer layers."
"If you live in an area that gets cold, I'd really avoid PVC or SJTW jacketed cords. They get super stiff once the temperature drops.
Look for SJOOW, SOOW, or SJEOW cord as mentioned. They will remain flexible even in extreme cold. I find that these cords also tend to hold up better than SJTW cords. "
"If flexibility is important to you and/or cord memory ie. becomes permanently twisted then avoid any cord composite that has "T" in the makeup. T = thermoplastic, which means it becomes stiff in cold weather and also is prone to warping over time."
If you need 100 feet to charge a Tesla 12g only gives 12Amps. You need 10g and a Lectron portable charger to get 16Amps from a 20A outlet. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZG52...Bfc2hhcmVk
This one works.
Not sure what you're talking about, but the OP product is rated at 15A and EV slow chargers are 12A. Should be completely fine
Not sure what you're talking about, but the OP product is rated at 15A and EV slow chargers are 12A. Should be completely fine
The other poster was referring to 20A outlets, if you use a Tesla 5-20 adapter plug in a 120V 20A outlet, you can get 16A (the adapters limit charging to 80% of the outlet rating due to the continuous load, so 15A outlet gets 12A, 20A outlet gets 16A).
That said, 20A outlet is irrelevant to the discussion, because the 5-20 adapter plug will fit into a 20A outlet, but not into either this extension cord nor the 10 gauge cord he linked (even though both extension cords will plug into the 20A outlet, both only have a 5-15 female end). So you are right, both extension cords only accept the standard 5-15 adapter, which will limit to 12A.
I agree about the 10 gauge wire for 16 amps at 100 ft, but I don't follow the part about a Lectron charger. The Tesla portable charger comes standard with a 15A 120V connector and a 50A 240V connector, but several other connectors are available at https://shop.tesla.com/product/ge...a-adapters
That page shows a table listing the miles-per-hour of charge for various amps and voltages of the different receptacles you can plug into. And the 20A 120V connector for the Tesla portable charger does support 16A max draw (because the NEC considers EV charging to be a continuous load, so it de-rates the circuit to 80%.)
I bought this like 5+ years ago for our 2000w inverter Gen. great cord. This this is heavy, well made, and I have no doubts it will last many more years. Perfect for running the Gen outside and bringing power in through the back of the house to the front.
Also great for my 15amp (might be 14.5amp?) electric pressure washer, although I use a 50ft for that one.
Think I paid this or close to it 5-6years ago, so probably a pretty decent price in this crazy day and age. 🙂👍
*I also have this brand (US wire and cable) in 50ft and it's great as well. Seems like it is the same product almost to southwire brand. Obviously I'm no expert, but if you are price watching, I think this is a good brand to keep an eye on for 50ft 12/3 cords.
Paid $30 for that one in 2015 and I use it a couple times a month, has held up really well.
US Wire and Cable 74050, 50ft, Yellow, 50 Foot https://a.co/d/dFxuYaD
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"The reason these are so inexpensive is the type of insulation that was used. SJTW. It is thermoplastic. Better cords are SJOOW, use a synthetic rubber insulation that make them more flexible, especially in colder weather. Both of these cords are "weather resistant" but the more expensive one insulation is "oil resistant" on the inner and outer layers."
"If you live in an area that gets cold, I'd really avoid PVC or SJTW jacketed cords. They get super stiff once the temperature drops.
Look for SJOOW, SOOW, or SJEOW cord as mentioned. They will remain flexible even in extreme cold. I find that these cords also tend to hold up better than SJTW cords. "
"If flexibility is important to you and/or cord memory ie. becomes permanently twisted then avoid any cord composite that has "T" in the makeup. T = thermoplastic, which means it becomes stiff in cold weather and also is prone to warping over time."
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about $10 cheaper then the one i got last year in august
there is a verrry good chance that you will get a cord made elsewhere, but not in the usa.
This one works.
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That said, 20A outlet is irrelevant to the discussion, because the 5-20 adapter plug will fit into a 20A outlet, but not into either this extension cord nor the 10 gauge cord he linked (even though both extension cords will plug into the 20A outlet, both only have a 5-15 female end). So you are right, both extension cords only accept the standard 5-15 adapter, which will limit to 12A.
This one works.
That page shows a table listing the miles-per-hour of charge for various amps and voltages of the different receptacles you can plug into. And the 20A 120V connector for the Tesla portable charger does support 16A max draw (because the NEC considers EV charging to be a continuous load, so it de-rates the circuit to 80%.)
Also great for my 15amp (might be 14.5amp?) electric pressure washer, although I use a 50ft for that one.
Think I paid this or close to it 5-6years ago, so probably a pretty decent price in this crazy day and age. 🙂👍
*I also have this brand (US wire and cable) in 50ft and it's great as well. Seems like it is the same product almost to southwire brand. Obviously I'm no expert, but if you are price watching, I think this is a good brand to keep an eye on for 50ft 12/3 cords.
Paid $30 for that one in 2015 and I use it a couple times a month, has held up really well.
US Wire and Cable 74050, 50ft, Yellow, 50 Foot https://a.co/d/dFxuYaD
Start w/ 16 ga and -2 for each:
-Distance (Further)
-Duration (Longer)
-Load (Larger)
-Temp (Hotter)
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