expiredSomeLurker posted Nov 16, 2023 02:25 PM
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expiredSomeLurker posted Nov 16, 2023 02:25 PM
Simmons Electronic Drum Kits: Titan 50 $329, Titan 20
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These kits are primarily for practicing, and they're great for that.
Generations of drummers, including all the greats you look up to, practiced on a "practice pad" which is a sheet of rubber stuck to a sheet of wood.
For decades most electronic drums used triggers that were sheets of rubber stuck to sheets of wood.
Actual mesh heads, like these and the Alesis Nitro Mesh, used to be a high-end feature only seen on kits $2000 and up.
The feature these cheap kits lack isn't rubber cymbals (all e-kits have the same rubber cymbals).
It's degrees of half-open on the hi-hat, and multiple zones on the other cymbals.
On cheap e-kits, there's only "open" and "closed" on the hi-hat. On real cymbals, very small increments of pressure let you get dozens of sounds in between "tightly closed" and "fully open". Expensive e-drum kits sense that, these cheap ones don't.
Further, cymbals sound very different depending on where and how you hit them. Expensive e-drum kits have multiple sensors and "zones" on the cymbal triggers that help simulate that: these cheap ones usually only have a choke sensor on the crash (if you're lucky).
Would I rather practice on a real kit?
Sure, but most of us don't live somewhere we can make that much noise on a regular basis, or at all.
The important differences between the Titan 20 and 50 are:
50 has a kick sensor big enough to put a double pedal on, to practice double bass. 20 doesn't.
50 has a bigger snare drum pad (10 vs 8 inch), which is closer to real snare size and feel.
50 has more sounds and more save slots for user kits (20 only has 1 user save slot)
Both have an input jack so you can play along with recorded audio.
Worth the extra $100? Not sure.
For $300 I prefer the Alesis Nitro Mesh because I think the brain has a slightly better interface and I like the sounds better.
Both of them are at a very similar level of price and features, and neither is clearly superior.
On sale for $300 in red:
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And black:
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The cheapest Roland is a TD07 at $800. It's the same level as these kits and has all the same issues these kits have.
The real Roland V-Drums are the TD17 and up, and they start at $1500.
The Roland TD-17KVX2 costs $1900.
You're literally complaining that a Nissan Rogue isn't as nice as a $150K Porsche Cayenne S Turbo Hybrid, and telling people to just buy the Cayenne.
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Have you ever seen someone playing these even at the smallest bar?
I HIGHLY recommend spending a few hundred more and getting a Roland or decent Yamaha if you absolutely need an electronic kit.
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Mesh kits feel pretty good. The cymbals do feel weird on most of them, but as a beginner/practice set they're good. I am looking for a deal on Alesis Nitro Max
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These kits are primarily for practicing, and they're great for that.
Generations of drummers, including all the greats you look up to, practiced on a "practice pad" which is a sheet of rubber stuck to a sheet of wood.
For decades most electronic drums used triggers that were sheets of rubber stuck to sheets of wood.
Actual mesh heads, like these and the Alesis Nitro Mesh, used to be a high-end feature only seen on kits $2000 and up.
The feature these cheap kits lack isn't rubber cymbals (all e-kits have the same rubber cymbals).
It's degrees of half-open on the hi-hat, and multiple zones on the other cymbals.
On cheap e-kits, there's only "open" and "closed" on the hi-hat. On real cymbals, very small increments of pressure let you get dozens of sounds in between "tightly closed" and "fully open". Expensive e-drum kits sense that, these cheap ones don't.
Further, cymbals sound very different depending on where and how you hit them. Expensive e-drum kits have multiple sensors and "zones" on the cymbal triggers that help simulate that: these cheap ones usually only have a choke sensor on the crash (if you're lucky).
Would I rather practice on a real kit?
Sure, but most of us don't live somewhere we can make that much noise on a regular basis, or at all.
The important differences between the Titan 20 and 50 are:
50 has a kick sensor big enough to put a double pedal on, to practice double bass. 20 doesn't.
50 has a bigger snare drum pad (10 vs 8 inch), which is closer to real snare size and feel.
50 has more sounds and more save slots for user kits (20 only has 1 user save slot)
Both have an input jack so you can play along with recorded audio.
Worth the extra $100? Not sure.
For $300 I prefer the Alesis Nitro Mesh because I think the brain has a slightly better interface and I like the sounds better.
Both of them are at a very similar level of price and features, and neither is clearly superior.
On sale for $300 in red:
https://www.guitarcente
And black:
https://www.guitarcente
The real Roland V-Drums are the TD17 and up, and they start at $1500.
You're literally complaining that a Nissan Rogue isn't as nice as a $150K Porsche Cayenne S Turbo Hybrid, and telling people to just buy the Cayenne.
I wouldnt say they are strictly practice kits, either. There's tons of livestreamers, Youtubers, and huge influencers putting out amazing stuff with these kind of kits, if you're strictly interested in recording at home and obviously not performing to an audience(but I've seen it done). If you're into Rock Band/Clone Hero, you're going to have a ton of fun with these outside of your usual practice.
These do not shift around when you play, if the above comment is referring to the whole kit wobbling around. Placed on the proper carpet/padding, it's not an issue at all. When the time comes for you to upgrade your kit if you decide you're at the level to take your drumming more seriously, these are easy to resale because they're huge in the Rhythm game community. It makes no sense for your first leap into e-drumming to be a pricy Roland, unless you've already established that you're a decent drummer and will be interested for life. Save the money for some local lessons or a subscription like Drumeo.
The Roland TD-17KVX2 costs $1900.
You're literally complaining that a Nissan Rogue isn't as nice as a $150K Porsche Cayenne S Turbo Hybrid, and telling people to just buy the Cayenne.
I actually just bought the Alesis Nitro Mesh Special Edition in red with a Simmons DA2108 amp with a throne for $275 with a $300 gift card from work.
So, Simmons or Alesis? lol
Have you ever seen someone playing these even at the smallest bar?
Most people buying these are just looking for something small and quiet that they can practice on. But you are correct, depending on drum style and music genre, they can shift around.
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