expiredStrifeZero posted Nov 16, 2023 06:26 PM
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expiredStrifeZero posted Nov 16, 2023 06:26 PM
Canon EOS M200 24.1MP Mirrorless Camera w/ EF-M 15-45mm f/3.5-6.3 Lens (White)
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Price n eds to come down quite a bit more to justify this though.
The $500ish for the refurbished RP camera is the much better buy
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I loved the size of the system but the 24MP sensors Canon had in these were not great. Poor mid and high ISO performance and not great dynamic range.
I recently picked up a Z30 and it blows them out of the water in challenging shooting conditions.
This is a good price for the M200, but honestly I found it uncomfortable without a grip and I was not a huge fan of using the touch screen for everything with my M100
I've heard the M50 and M200 have better AF than the 5/100 I had. That was a huge weakness with the first gen Dual Pixel
They also have a speedbooster adapter (~$150) so if you have full frame EF lenses, you get almost the same focal length with only a little crop. e.g. Canon EF 50mm would give you 57mm with the speedbooster instead of 80mm with a regular adapter.
I have an iPhone 13 Pro, and typical use would be for - family events, school performances (child on stage), birthday parties, etc..
I have an iPhone 13 Pro, and typical use would be for - family events, school performances (child on stage), birthday parties, etc..
But anyway a D3300 is like $150 used and even when the kit lens it will blow away photos from a photo in the right hands. But someone unfamiliar with photography and just using auto is likely to prefer a high end phone camera. Add another $100 to $150 for an upgraded lens for excellent results.
That just one example that I'd say blows away any phone. Tons of other cheap cameras that are still superior. The main difference is that these cameras lack the AI processing phones use so it takes significantly more photography knowledge and manual effort post processing.
The M200 will be be a lot better too with the right lens and photography knowledge, but I just personally don't like the sensor as much as you can get on cheap Nikon DSLRs or something like a Sony a6000 mirrorless. Better dynamic range from those even if I really do love the M200 + Canon 22'm f/2 lens combo.
For portraits in particular I'd much rather have just about any old DSLR (as little as like $30-40 for the camera body) with cheap large aperture lens ($40-80) over the best smartphone.
For video iPhone is a very compelling option though and will beat most cheaper cameras video quality.
As it has been exhaustively mentioned, the EF-M system has been discontinued. So, as a first camera, maybe it's not the best fit. However, this is an excellent second camera on the cheap. Not all ventures require the larger camera. This camera with the 22mm F2 is an excellent combination.
Now what price would I jump on? Like $230 for a refurbished one... a bit of a long shot but I'm willing to wait. I want to end up under $350 before tax when adding the 22mm F2.
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I have an iPhone 13 Pro, and typical use would be for - family events, school performances (child on stage), birthday parties, etc..
For auditoriums you need zoom + aperture. In fact you might want 300mm+. When you realllly zoom in, that's what makes you say "wow, this is so much better than a phone camera". Where real cameras shine is not just real bokeh, and real depth of field in every shot and way less noise, but the ability to shoot at virtually any focal length. 11mm, 400mm, macro, tilt shift, vintage glass, whatever you want.
If my goal was to beat an iphone 15 pro as cheaply as possible I would buy a used canon T2i, for under $100, and pair it with a 75mm-300, or preferably something that goes to 400mm for $100-$200. You'd smoke the iphone with only $200-300. .
But personally, I would go with a mirrorless route, focusing and exposure will be much better. This camera would be great for your purposes if you could pair it with a telephoto.
Now if I wanna go more serious into photography, I will go to the R line, but that's a different story and price range. These M models are now superb the price.
I know it sounds crazy, but just like Linus, I think all dashcams suck.
He recommended GoPro at the end of the video so I guess using this as a dashcam is not that crazy after all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AnyhHl
I have an iPhone 13 Pro, and typical use would be for - family events, school performances (child on stage), birthday parties, etc..
Edit: I should add that I use a telephoto lens (75-250mm) for my kids' performances (ballet, karate, soccer and all three play an instrument) and it's been a fantastic investment. I went from a Nikon d7100 to the canon m6 mark ii because I wanted something significantly lighter.
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