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The Chase Prime Visa is literally one of the most PREDATORY, borderline ILLEGAL cards in the entire credit card industry.
Charge $1000 on this card, pay off $900. You should only be charged interest on $100, but the interest is for the full $1000. Yeah, GTFO. Show me any other charge card that does this.
People make mistakes with auto-pay. Sometimes despite one's best efforts or a family medical emergency, you miss paying off the full balance one month. I get this card has no annual fee and Chase has to make their profits somehow, but this is legit the most predatory way to do it. Zero-forgiveness in this card, so if you do sign up, make sure you never under any circumstance miss the full payment, even by missing one cent or by one day.
I'd rather carry Chase Freedom Flex + Discover IT cards (both with no annual fee), take advantage of staggered 5% cashback on all Amazon purchases for two quarters of a calendar year (including this holiday quarter), and just not deal with the BS.
A lot of you out there are chasing a $200 gift card carrot, but the 100% accrued balance interest penalty stick may hit you back a lot harder in the long run...
Declined with an over 800 credit score.
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Since so many people find this misinformed post "helpful", I feel it needs to be clarified on credit card interest works in general.
Where is your evidence of this? Credit card interest methods are regulated by the CARD Act. What YOU are describing is a version of Double-Cycle billing, which is not allowed under the CARD Act for over a decade now.
"Double-cycle billing once allowed credit card issuers to calculate a borrower's interest charges based on the average daily balance of their previous two billing cycles. This put cardholders in an unusual position of paying interest on charges they had already paid off. The CARD Act prohibits double-cycle billing and requires credit card issuers to calculate interest based on an account's average daily balance from the most recent billing period."
Your personal experiences and not understanding WHEN and HOW interest is calculated and applied on credit cards is not a valid excuse to spread misinformation.
Example:
This applies to all credit cards, this ONE card offered by Chase doesn't operate any differently than others.
You have $0 balance, or a new account You make $1000 worth of purchases. Your statement is issued with a statement balance of $1000 on November 1, 2023 with a due date of November 27, 2023.
You begin accruing interest from the date the statement was issued on a daily basis based on your DPR (APR/365). Everyday, that accrued interest charge is added to your balance, and next day your DPR is calculated on that new balance with added accrued interest charge from day prior and so on (compounding interest). This occurs daily until your due date.
If you make a payment on the due date, you have accrued 27 days of interest, if the statement balance is paid in full, the accrued interest does not carry over to your next statement, it's done and over with. If you do not pay the balance in full, Say you make a $900 payment, then you have not satisfied the terms and conditions of most all credit cards and the accrued interest charges from the 27 days will be added to your next statement.
What you are claiming is that if you make a $900 payment, say on due date, then only accrued interest on $100 principle should be carried over to next statement. That is NOT how it works. Your accrued interest, up until the point you made a partial payment will get carried over UNLESS you pay off the statement balance in full on or prior to due date.
If you had made a $900 payment the day your statement is issued, or the next day, then you do not accrue any further interest on that $900, only on the $100 remaining balance for next 26 days, and so on. It's why it's advisable, if your credit card allows and if you have trouble making one large payment, make multiple payments prior to the due date to finish paying the statement balance by due date (preferably) or to reduce the daily amount that is subjected to interest charges.
This is in fact the industry standard of how interest is calculated and applied. No CC issuer is going to accrue interest on balance for 27 days (or any period from statement issue date to due date) and then recalculate interest on $100 that's left over and only carry over that interest charge because you made a $900 payment on last day and failed to payoff full statement balance.
Every credit card statement, under the interest charged section (usually towards the end) it will tell you the amount of your balance that was subjected to interest.
This card isn't any different or any more predatory than any other credit card. ALL credit cards are predatory in some way, but if you understand few basics, you can understand how to avoid some of these predatory behaviors.
Some points you make are valid, people churning for $200, a small benefit, is just irresponsible with no intent to use this card or even plans to cancel it.. It's often not worth it.
I used this card to buy ls11000 projector and brought the price down to 3090 from 4000. Of course it was on sale for 3500 - 200 gc -6% cash back. Id like to think I did well
You can use the same prime account to apply for both you and your other family member. I had a prime card last year with $200 bonus and before that my brother signup for the prime card 2 years ago under same account. I just remove it and then sign up with my wife name and info today. Her card was added to my prime account afterward and I received both the $50 referral bonus and $200 signup bonus in my gift card balance. I haven't try signing up two family in a shorter period yet. I may.
New to credit card bonuses, I've had the same 2 credit cards for 30 years.
Can I sign up for this, then cancel it the next day and keep the $200 gift card? I don't see why people would not do this... There's gotta be a catch.
What a doozie. This is a whole sharknado of wrongness.
For starters, no, they're not talking about double cycle billing. I don't understand how you got that out of what they said. They're talking about having to pay interest on everything from a billing cycle, even if they paid most of their balance and left a small part unpaid. You're describing their concern as "a version of" double cycle billing, where "a version of" is doing a heck of a lot of work to stretch the meaning into something you can easily criticize.
You can say they're right, you can say they're wrong, whatever, but they are not talking about double cycle billing.
But there's more. You're saying that they're confused about daily accrual of interest. But literally nowhere in the comment you're replying to, do they suggest making that $900 payment "on the due date". To quote Nate Bartgatze, well, you made that up your own.
They pretty clearly seem to be talking about a circumstance where they pay $900 before the due date. (A payment on "due date" would actually be on time, but I'm just setting that aside...)
This is all terribly unfortunate, because once we step out of this Sharknado and return back to the actual thing they said, I actually think I agree with you. So far as I can tell Amazon doesn't have any charge like this. I can't see it anywhere in the terms of service or on any of the sites that review the Amazon card. The only support I could find for it is that one Amazon customer review. But why not just say that? Don't be the guy who makes a sharknado post.
Uhh it was an EXAMPLE (literally said example). I wasn't implying they paid $900 on due date (before due date could be a day before, 3 days before, 5 days before, it doesn't negate the accrued interest on time that balance was carried), it was an example, they clearly had accrued interest on full balance and falsely assumed if they paid $900, no interest charges would apply on that $900 at all, which isn't true for any card. That poster is implying even if you make a payment day of statement generation (for example), you'll get charged interest on full statement balance and no other card does this, which isn't true and could be a form of double cycle billing where you are being charged interest on balance that isn't being carried.
I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you about it, I don't even get your sharknado reference but thanks for your input.
Neither approved nor declined, stuck in the same limbo as some others, despite scores just under 800, low outstanding credit and no missed payments.
Maybe it's because I always pay off my cards in full, and they figure they're not likely to make much off of me? I don't really need another card, but I could use a Visa as I don't have one these days and Costco only takes Visa, plus the $200 is tempting.
New to credit card bonuses, I've had the same 2 credit cards for 30 years.
Can I sign up for this, then cancel it the next day and keep the $200 gift card? I don't see why people would not do this... There's gotta be a catch.
I doubt they'll let you do that, plus why not keep it and just not use it since there's no annual fee and having additional unused credit helps your credit score?
needs further review..got letter in mail 2 days later...called number on letter...verified some info...received approval email and gc was automatically applied to amazon account.
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Charge $1000 on this card, pay off $900. You should only be charged interest on $100, but the interest is for the full $1000. Yeah, GTFO. Show me any other charge card that does this.
People make mistakes with auto-pay. Sometimes despite one's best efforts or a family medical emergency, you miss paying off the full balance one month. I get this card has no annual fee and Chase has to make their profits somehow, but this is legit the most predatory way to do it. Zero-forgiveness in this card, so if you do sign up, make sure you never under any circumstance miss the full payment, even by missing one cent or by one day.
I'd rather carry Chase Freedom Flex + Discover IT cards (both with no annual fee), take advantage of staggered 5% cashback on all Amazon purchases for two quarters of a calendar year (including this holiday quarter), and just not deal with the BS.
A lot of you out there are chasing a $200 gift card carrot, but the 100% accrued balance interest penalty stick may hit you back a lot harder in the long run...
Also, right after you get approved, you can grab a referral link to have friends/family use and you can get another $50 per each approved referral. (Up to $500)
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I have freezes with all of them because of past identity fraud and unfreeze it temporarily when i apply for credit/loans.
I have freezes with all of them because of past identity fraud and unfreeze it temporarily when i apply for credit/loans.
Transunion. Just applied over the weekend and went into review as my credit was frozen. Called and got approved. CS 820+
Where is your evidence of this? Credit card interest methods are regulated by the CARD Act. What YOU are describing is a version of Double-Cycle billing, which is not allowed under the CARD Act for over a decade now.
"Double-cycle billing once allowed credit card issuers to calculate a borrower's interest charges based on the average daily balance of their previous two billing cycles. This put cardholders in an unusual position of paying interest on charges they had already paid off. The CARD Act prohibits double-cycle billing and requires credit card issuers to calculate interest based on an account's average daily balance from the most recent billing period."
Your personal experiences and not understanding WHEN and HOW interest is calculated and applied on credit cards is not a valid excuse to spread misinformation.
Example:
This applies to all credit cards, this ONE card offered by Chase doesn't operate any differently than others.
You have $0 balance, or a new account You make $1000 worth of purchases. Your statement is issued with a statement balance of $1000 on November 1, 2023 with a due date of November 27, 2023.
You begin accruing interest from the date the statement was issued on a daily basis based on your DPR (APR/365). Everyday, that accrued interest charge is added to your balance, and next day your DPR is calculated on that new balance with added accrued interest charge from day prior and so on (compounding interest). This occurs daily until your due date.
If you make a payment on the due date, you have accrued 27 days of interest, if the statement balance is paid in full, the accrued interest does not carry over to your next statement, it's done and over with. If you do not pay the balance in full, Say you make a $900 payment, then you have not satisfied the terms and conditions of most all credit cards and the accrued interest charges from the 27 days will be added to your next statement.
What you are claiming is that if you make a $900 payment, say on due date, then only accrued interest on $100 principle should be carried over to next statement. That is NOT how it works. Your accrued interest, up until the point you made a partial payment will get carried over UNLESS you pay off the statement balance in full on or prior to due date.
If you had made a $900 payment the day your statement is issued, or the next day, then you do not accrue any further interest on that $900, only on the $100 remaining balance for next 26 days, and so on. It's why it's advisable, if your credit card allows and if you have trouble making one large payment, make multiple payments prior to the due date to finish paying the statement balance by due date (preferably) or to reduce the daily amount that is subjected to interest charges.
This is in fact the industry standard of how interest is calculated and applied. No CC issuer is going to accrue interest on balance for 27 days (or any period from statement issue date to due date) and then recalculate interest on $100 that's left over and only carry over that interest charge because you made a $900 payment on last day and failed to payoff full statement balance.
Every credit card statement, under the interest charged section (usually towards the end) it will tell you the amount of your balance that was subjected to interest.
This card isn't any different or any more predatory than any other credit card. ALL credit cards are predatory in some way, but if you understand few basics, you can understand how to avoid some of these predatory behaviors.
Some points you make are valid, people churning for $200, a small benefit, is just irresponsible with no intent to use this card or even plans to cancel it.. It's often not worth it.
I used this card to buy ls11000 projector and brought the price down to 3090 from 4000. Of course it was on sale for 3500 - 200 gc -6% cash back. Id like to think I did well
Can I sign up for this, then cancel it the next day and keep the $200 gift card? I don't see why people would not do this... There's gotta be a catch.
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What a doozie. This is a whole sharknado of wrongness.
For starters, no, they're not talking about double cycle billing. I don't understand how you got that out of what they said. They're talking about having to pay interest on everything from a billing cycle, even if they paid most of their balance and left a small part unpaid. You're describing their concern as "a version of" double cycle billing, where "a version of" is doing a heck of a lot of work to stretch the meaning into something you can easily criticize.
You can say they're right, you can say they're wrong, whatever, but they are not talking about double cycle billing.
But there's more. You're saying that they're confused about daily accrual of interest. But literally nowhere in the comment you're replying to, do they suggest making that $900 payment "on the due date". To quote Nate Bartgatze, well, you made that up your own.
They pretty clearly seem to be talking about a circumstance where they pay $900 before the due date. (A payment on "due date" would actually be on time, but I'm just setting that aside...)
This is all terribly unfortunate, because once we step out of this Sharknado and return back to the actual thing they said, I actually think I agree with you. So far as I can tell Amazon doesn't have any charge like this. I can't see it anywhere in the terms of service or on any of the sites that review the Amazon card. The only support I could find for it is that one Amazon customer review. But why not just say that? Don't be the guy who makes a sharknado post.
I'm not going to sit here and bicker with you about it, I don't even get your sharknado reference but thanks for your input.
I have freezes with all of them because of past identity fraud and unfreeze it temporarily when i apply for credit/loans.
Otherwise just temp unfreeze all 3 for one day -- do it in the evening so its only for a few hrs (rest of the day)
Maybe it's because I always pay off my cards in full, and they figure they're not likely to make much off of me? I don't really need another card, but I could use a Visa as I don't have one these days and Costco only takes Visa, plus the $200 is tempting.
Can I sign up for this, then cancel it the next day and keep the $200 gift card? I don't see why people would not do this... There's gotta be a catch.
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