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black friday/holiday sales promos are just gravy, because whatever you buy from suprents , you won't pay any sales tax (must be one of them sales tax free states??)
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this company consistently has the best sales and best warranties on these erideables, in silicon valley and I think there is some investment in it to try to gain market share, that's my theory
https://alienrides.com/collection...c-unicycle
it was cheaper maybe clearance sale at segway.com but sold out I think this is cheapest one will find for an in stock:
https://alienrides.com/collection...cooter-gt1
Inmotion V11 record low for this size/power suspension design unicycle, this is the best selling unicycle nowdays due to specs/price:
https://store.inmotionworld.com/c...%3D.WtYWHG
These suckers super fast but no suspension:
V12:
https://store.inmotionworld.com/p...motion-v12
V12 high torque:
https://store.inmotionworld.com/p...tion-v12ht
And honestly, at this price and with the silky smooth firmware/performance, this is probably the best beginner EUC you could get:
https://store.inmotionworld.com/p...motion-v8s
Quote from redpoint5 :
Amazon has the same price for Inmotion EUCs. Extra 5% off on Amazon has me preferring that retailer.
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I've had the Master a year now and I think it's great, for 2100 it's ideal for someone who is looking to step up from a non suspension wheel.
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Girl dies after falling off hover board, her family urges others to use helmets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr_z2Z-qjOU
Unicycle accident in NYC, almost killed him even with great helmet and protective gear:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xixqltq
Your personal anecdote of having never been in an accident on your scooter doesn't have any bearing on the rate of scooter accidents. Trying to make that argument is a logical fallacy. Couldn't I say the same thing about EUCs? I'm now 1300 miles in and have never been in a major accident. The worst "crash" I had was at 10 mph when I stupidly tried to swerve past some wet leaves and clipped a construction cone that threw me off my wheel. I was fully geared, so went mostly unscathed. I've had worse accidents on my bicycle... Regardless of PEV type, some riders are more risk averse than others, and some are just more lucky than others. If a car pulled up behind me and decided to run me over, regardless if I were on a bike, scooter, or EUC... I'd still probably be dead or seriously injured.
Just because a PEV can go fast doesn't mean all owners ride to the limits. People ride within their comfort zone. Powerful EUCs are as much about safety as they are about speed; maybe even more so. The power of the motor dictates how far you can lean forward (accelerate) without overpowering it and falling forward. It also dictates how hard and fast you can brake for reduced stopping distance.
Sure, some people don't fully understand just how dangerous EUCs can be, just like there are plenty of e-scooter, one wheel, e-sk8, and e-bike riders who ride too fast for the conditions or their experience level, or ride without gear not realizing just how serious a crash can be at the speeds they're traveling. The EUC community promotes properly gearing up and often pushes back on riders promoting dangerous riding habits. That's more than can be said for a lot of other PEV communities.
The EUC rider accident link you posted is someone who ran into the side of a car in NYC where traffic is nuts. Those types of accidents happen to riders of all forms of transportation, even non-motorized. Try looking up the volume of car vs pedal bicycle accidents sometime. In NYC in 2020, during the lockdown no less, there were 12,450 bicycle accidents, 28 of which were fatal. Fact is, more people than ever are biking or riding PEVs, and that means more interactions between cars and bikes/PEVs. The cars always win. PEVs traveling at faster speeds with newer novice riders that aren't great at gauging risk with be an issue regardless of the type of PEV they ride.
Look at all of the accidents involving rental scooters. Bunch of people jumping on them with no gear and no experience, having no way to gauge whether the unit is functioning properly, improperly locking up their brakes, and flying over the handlebars and landing on their skulls, or flying across intersections and getting hit by cars.
One major benefit to EUCs is that you can't just jump on it and go, and the vast majority of the time riders own their own units. You actually have to spend hours learning to properly ride it, watching training videos from the community that, again, almost always promote wearing safety gear. Also, because of the inherent instability of an EUC and the single point of contact that will lead to a crash if any of the powertrain were to fail, EUC riders typically fully gear up knowing the risks. Other PEV riders may not take gear as seriously because of the lower risk of crash from a powertrain failure.
The things you don't ever hear too often (had to read posts on a EUC only forum)
- if you buying any of these from a dealer with a warranty's expect that once you step on it and take it for a spin the resell drops %50 or more. sure you can list it high and hope someone buys it that's got the addiction bug like JDM civic resellers do. but many complain they won't buy a used EUC there's too many issues. for example a v12 battery replacement cost $6-900 if they didn't charge it properly or had it sit or bought it from aliexpress you got to ask where they got it from even then these hobbyists are tearing down and replacing and tweaking these wheels even with only a few hundred miles on them. I sure the hell don't trust someone tearing it down or replacing things it's pretty nuts to take these risks. This is tech and it moves fast they are releasing tons of wheels almost every 6 months meaning it's quicky dropping prices turning a possibly 4k wheel into $1500 if you want that cushy warranty. oh and you will pay shipping for these 50lb+ items or what is common the dealer will send you the replacement items and you have to diy. expect to be working on your wheel unless you live in next to one of these distributors.
- People will stop you and make small talk 24/7 everywhere you go which seems annoying as hell. never thought about it till watching some videos so anything you plan on doing expect 60% your plans involving being stopped and asked tons of questions, removing the fact you are "saving time" commuting or traveling unless you just straight up ignore everyone and never stop, yet red lights and grocery stores, small stops ect.
- No matter the gear it seems likely you will end up breaking something mainly a shoulder. just go watch videos of falls at lower speeds like 20-30mph faster seems like it would be easier since you can slide off higher speeds safer than tumbling sideways and no way to not take the impact it's either shoulder, elbow, or wrist from most to less likely. worst case you have your hands behind you and fall or up too high and you end up breaking ribs. gear will stop all road rash. however, the persons weight and awkward falls no armor will stop gravity from doing it's thing.
It's a super small niche that means selling and buying used will take so much time unless you get a first timer that just want's to ride and doesn't care about cash. these people are taking everything apart from the minute they purchase the wheels to fix and repair them. sure could be a good thing but also know that you won't know if they did the job well or not until it comes time. In summary. Broken bones will happen just a matter of when or if a fall scares someone enough they quit riding. No matter what wheel you ever purchase ALWAYS know that you are generally going to lose hundreds if not thousands and possibly a terrifying hospital bill. All the info I gathered from EUC just got me furious and angry because everyone is just trying to resell their item to buy the next big thing and will do anything to achieve that goal.also, some mention that flying off a motorcyle at high speeds results in fewer injuries than an accident at low speeds. The catch is that your body doesn't collide with any hard object, but a lot of force is moving you forward so if you got leather gear (or if there's a synthetic equivalent) most of the force is spent going on a long slide on the asphault, it's less than the force of gravity taking you down to the ground. But, the slower you go means the gravity / falling force is becoming an equal or bigger number in the accident equation.
THAT SAID, flying off a motorcycle or e-vehicle at high speed gives you a greater chance of being killed or maimed if the accident involves some high speed collision between your body and some other vehicle out on the roads. so really, the slow fall may hurt more than a high speed fall/long slide, but it's a lot better than dying or becoming a paraplegic. so just gear up always and don't ride carelessly.
Jumped on the thing after about 1,000 miles on a v8, and felt like I'd never been on a unicycle before. Takes quite a bit more effort to get it to do anything because of the weight and height of the pedals.
Spent an hour affixing the foam pads. The paper backing sticks more than the film wants to stick to the pad, making the process of peeling the paper off difficult.
With pads on, I went out again for a quick spin and was 20x better than the initial ride. I get speed wobble going just above the speed of a V8, so more practice needed.
I've got no experience with the other comparable wheels, but it seems apparent the money went into performance and not aesthetically pleasing finish, pads that align well and aren't a nightmare to install, user manuals (there is none), or fast chargers. Trolley handle is completely inappropriate for an 80 pound thing. Feels like it will break if not paying attention.
Super excited to learn this beast.
Jumped on the thing after about 1,000 miles on a v8, and felt like I'd never been on a unicycle before. Takes quite a bit more effort to get it to do anything because of the weight and height of the pedals.
Spent an hour affixing the foam pads. The paper backing sticks more than the film wants to stick to the pad, making the process of peeling the paper off difficult.
With pads on, I went out again for a quick spin and was 20x better than the initial ride. I get speed wobble going just above the speed of a V8, so more practice needed.
I've got no experience with the other comparable wheels, but it seems apparent the money went into performance and not aesthetically pleasing finish, pads that align well and aren't a nightmare to install, user manuals (there is none), or fast chargers. Trolley handle is completely inappropriate for an 80 thing. Feels like it will break if not paying attention.
Super excited to learn this beast.
The Master isn't exactly known for its build quality, you're really just paying for the performance. I'd definitely recommend buying one of the bumper sets from Clark Pads or Grizzla to help protect it. Or even make your own.
Canada and Europe have stricter rules, but again, they're not often enforced. People still ride EUCs.
Just follow the rules of the road and you'll most likely be fine unless you find a real jerk of a cop.
I commute to work on mine, 30 miles roundtrip. Not as fast as driving on the highway, takes about the same amount of time as driving on city roads. It's 20 minutes each way by highway, 30 minutes by car on city roads, and 35 minutes by EUC. I primarily ride in the street on single lane roads, and will ride between 25 and 35 mph the entire way. My route goes by a police station, and cops either ignore me or waive.
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Canada and Europe have stricter rules, but again, they're not often enforced. People still ride EUCs.
Just follow the rules of the road and you'll most likely be fine unless you find a real jerk of a cop.
I commute to work on mine, 30 miles roundtrip. Not as fast as driving on the highway, takes about the same amount of time as driving on city roads. It's 20 minutes each way by highway, 30 minutes by car on city roads, and 35 minutes by EUC. I primarily ride in the street on single lane roads, and will ride between 25 and 35 mph the entire way. My route goes by a police station, and cops either ignore me or waive.
That's good for you, and I see similar complacency in my city even though scooters and such are explicitly illegal, including riding on sidewalks, and nothing is being done about these novice nuisances and dangers. I am not against these options but they need to controlled and regulated properly on public space and rights of way.
I can guarantee these do not fit ebike code in the majority of jurisdictions. Most are pretty much the same and usually require 2 or 3 wheels and operable pedals; these conform to neither. Even if they did conform with the speed or wattage limits of a class 1 or 2 ebike, which many don't.
I think eventually when these become enough of a problem with injuries and overzealous users, they will see attention, and then it will be obvious that an ebike will be the much safer option as they clearly fit into existing codes, visibility to negligent and oblivious motorists, and the several utility reasons already mentioned.
The things you don't ever hear too often (had to read posts on a EUC only forum)
- if you buying any of these from a dealer with a warranty's expect that once you step on it and take it for a spin the resell drops %50 or more. sure you can list it high and hope someone buys it that's got the addiction bug like JDM civic resellers do. but many complain they won't buy a used EUC there's too many issues. for example a v12 battery replacement cost $6-900 if they didn't charge it properly or had it sit or bought it from aliexpress you got to ask where they got it from even then these hobbyists are tearing down and replacing and tweaking these wheels even with only a few hundred miles on them. I sure the hell don't trust someone tearing it down or replacing things it's pretty nuts to take these risks. This is tech and it moves fast they are releasing tons of wheels almost every 6 months meaning it's quicky dropping prices turning a possibly 4k wheel into $1500 if you want that cushy warranty. oh and you will pay shipping for these 50lb+ items or what is common the dealer will send you the replacement items and you have to diy. expect to be working on your wheel unless you live in next to one of these distributors.
- People will stop you and make small talk 24/7 everywhere you go which seems annoying as hell. never thought about it till watching some videos so anything you plan on doing expect 60% your plans involving being stopped and asked tons of questions, removing the fact you are "saving time" commuting or traveling unless you just straight up ignore everyone and never stop, yet red lights and grocery stores, small stops ect.
- No matter the gear it seems likely you will end up breaking something mainly a shoulder. just go watch videos of falls at lower speeds like 20-30mph faster seems like it would be easier since you can slide off higher speeds safer than tumbling sideways and no way to not take the impact it's either shoulder, elbow, or wrist from most to less likely. worst case you have your hands behind you and fall or up too high and you end up breaking ribs. gear will stop all road rash. however, the persons weight and awkward falls no armor will stop gravity from doing it's thing.
It's a super small niche that means selling and buying used will take so much time unless you get a first timer that just want's to ride and doesn't care about cash. these people are taking everything apart from the minute they purchase the wheels to fix and repair them. sure could be a good thing but also know that you won't know if they did the job well or not until it comes time. In summary. Broken bones will happen just a matter of when or if a fall scares someone enough they quit riding. No matter what wheel you ever purchase ALWAYS know that you are generally going to lose hundreds if not thousands and possibly a terrifying hospital bill. All the info I gathered from EUC just got me furious and angry because everyone is just trying to resell their item to buy the next big thing and will do anything to achieve that goal.Personally, having been part of the EUC scene for three years, owning multiple units, and engaging in buying and selling, I find the claim that EUCs lose half their value quickly to be extreme. For instance, I purchased an Inmotion V13 for $4k last year, and even after a year it took a holiday sale to find it for $3,500. I have over 3k miles on mine and even if I sold it tomorrow for 3000$ (which I could easily get) I wouldn't regret a moment or dollar, You would never find a wheel that was 4k last year that is now 1500$, look on Facebook Marketplace for a good EUC and see the prices there selling for.
About people stopping and asking questions – yeah, it's true that people often stop and ask questions. However, you have the choice to engage or not. I commute daily to work on my EUC, and sometimes I'm eager to share my experiences, while other times I prefer to ignore the queries.
In terms of safety, fractures like the clavicle or collarbone are common in low-speed falls, and this risk is not exclusive to PEVs. Bike and board sports also share this type of injury risk.
While there may be issues with pre-ordered batch 1 devices due to manufacturing, mature units with warranties and fewer issues are readily available. Ultimately, PEV/EUC riding is a hobby, and like any hobby like skydiving, diving, hiking, it's not for everyone. Some would say those are for a small niche. People might wrongly dissuade others from buying a PEV or specific unit, claiming it's not smart or suitable for new users, but I believe it's essential for individuals to conduct their own research and make informed decisions, especially when investing significant amounts of money in any hobby or activity.
Watching YouTube videos doesn't tell you that reselling, broken bones, falling, hustling new users over for that next new wheel are a norm. I have met plenty of good solid people over the years, everyone from a doctor to a lawyer. It is easy to find the negative but most people in this hobby do it because they love the joy of riding and we want others to experience that feeling.
Personally, having been part of the EUC scene for three years, owning multiple units, and engaging in buying and selling, I find the claim that EUCs lose half their value quickly to be extreme. For instance, I purchased an Inmotion V13 for $4k last year, and even after a year it took a holiday sale to find it for $3,500. I have over 3k miles on mine and even if I sold it tomorrow for 3000$ (which I could easily get) I wouldn't regret a moment or dollar, You would never find a wheel that was 4k last year that is now 1500$, look on Facebook Marketplace for a good EUC and see the prices there selling for.
About people stopping and asking questions – yeah, it's true that people often stop and ask questions. However, you have the choice to engage or not. I commute daily to work on my EUC, and sometimes I'm eager to share my experiences, while other times I prefer to ignore the queries.
In terms of safety, fractures like the clavicle or collarbone are common in low-speed falls, and this risk is not exclusive to PEVs. Bike and board sports also share this type of injury risk.
While there may be issues with pre-ordered batch 1 devices due to manufacturing, mature units with warranties and fewer issues are readily available. Ultimately, PEV/EUC riding is a hobby, and like any hobby like skydiving, diving, hiking, it's not for everyone. Some would say those are for a small niche. People might wrongly dissuade others from buying a PEV or specific unit, claiming it's not smart or suitable for new users, but I believe it's essential for individuals to conduct their own research and make informed decisions, especially when investing significant amounts of money in any hobby or activity.
Watching YouTube videos doesn't tell you that reselling, broken bones, falling, hustling new users over for that next new wheel are a norm. I have met plenty of good solid people over the years, everyone from a doctor to a lawyer. It is easy to find the negative but most people in this hobby do it because they love the joy of riding and we want others to experience that feeling.