Wyze Cam OG $15 + Free Shipping

drinkingbird

Nov 30, 2023 12:29 AM

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drinkingbirdNov 30, 2023 12:29 AM

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Quote from pechango

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Any cool down is a deal breaker...it's stupid that it even exists.

For under $2 a month you remove the cool down and get AI detection and other stuff. For me, I just put SD cards in and record 24x7, works great.

This is like buying a cheap HP printer, obviously they're not making profit on a $15 video camera, they want you to pay for the service. But you don't have to, and it works perfectly fine for most without it. There are plenty of other more expensive options that have more features "included".

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drinkingbird

Nov 30, 2023 12:32 AM

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drinkingbirdNov 30, 2023 12:32 AM

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Quote from iowaberg

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What exactly do you get with a Cam Plus subscription that you don't get with no subscription? I think I heard there are no "smart" detections - people, animal, package, etc?

There is a list of features on their site, removing the cool down, having video clips in the cloud, and the smart detections are the 3 main ones I can think of.

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drinkingbird

Nov 30, 2023 12:33 AM

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drinkingbirdNov 30, 2023 12:33 AM

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Quote from SeadudeW

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I can't find any info about rtsp firmware. I think this one don't have rtsp support. Can anyone confirm that is true? Or does anyone know if this one support rtsp? Thanks

No, they intentionally removed that, they want you to pay for the monthly plan and use the cloud.

drinkingbird

Nov 30, 2023 12:35 AM

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drinkingbirdNov 30, 2023 12:35 AM

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Quote from dailydealsforme

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What is the difference between OG and v3. This is about half price of v3

The only reason people get the v3 is that if you have an existing Cam Plus Lite subscription, it works with that. New users cannot sign up for Lite, and all cameras released after the v3 will not work with it. In other works they are phasing out the former free service. So they're charging a premium for the v3 as they know they are losing money on subscriptions with that one.

The OG video quality is far better and has the built in lite. I tried both and returned the v3 immediately. The pan v3 is good, the regular v3 was awful. I like the OG and grabbed a couple more under this deal.

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drinkingbird

Nov 30, 2023 12:38 AM

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drinkingbirdNov 30, 2023 12:38 AM

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Quote from missellie

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You do get smart detections and no cool down with a full subscription. I have 7 cameras (V2s, V3s) and have the Cam Plus Unlimited subscription. There was an old code on Slickdeals I used to buy my sub. Smart detections are person, friendly faces, pet, vehicle, package, crying, meowing, barking and talking. You can't use the OG camera in this deal even on the Cam Plus Lite plan. It would be worthless to me to receive a still shot and have to view the playback to retrieve what the motion was. The deal for 3 V3 cameras for $60 is much better in my opinion.

Only problem is the v3 image quality is terrible, I thought the compression on the OG was excessive, they double it on the v3 causing any sort of motion to cause blocks and blur. Obviously they do this to save bandwidth with the free plan users, but it even does it to video stored on the SD card.

I would much rather get all OGs and pay for the plan than get V3s, but with SD cards and being able to tap the still image and watch the video clip from SD, I see no reason to.

drinkingbird

Nov 30, 2023 12:39 AM

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drinkingbirdNov 30, 2023 12:39 AM

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Quote from deluxman

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Is amazon pay same as amazon prime? I chose Amazon pay and still being charged for shipping.

No, not the same. Amazon pay you are buying from Wyze and paying their shipping fee (just like using google pay, paypal, etc). Pay with Prime you are buying from amazon through Wyze's site and using prime free shipping benefit.

Funny thing is even when you buy from Wyze's site directly it still ships from amazon, with a gift receipt.

drinkingbird

Nov 30, 2023 12:44 AM

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Quote from pechango

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Any cool down is a deal breaker...it's stupid that it even exists.

Their service is hosted in AWS now (after people got all scared about it being hosted in China), and AWS charges by the byte. They're not going to give you unlimited cloud use for no charge.

I do wish the cool down could be removed for SD card use, but the way these are designed, every event has to send a clip to the cloud for analysis, then a still image is stored from that clip, so it uses a good chunk of bandwidth for each event, even if all you see is a still frame.

Let's be honest, at this price point, they want you to pay for a subscription, and they're not going to go out of their way to give you less reasons to do that.

After having them for 6 months, I honestly don't think I'd want an event more than every 5 minutes. Most of my cameras are picking up frequent motion as they are outside, and the ones that are in areas that have infrequent motion, an alert that something moved there, plus the fact that I have 24x7 recording to SD card, that is all I need, if there are 2 events within 5 minutes, the video is there, I just have one picture instead of 2, no biggie.

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drinkingbird

Nov 30, 2023 12:48 AM

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Quote from poohbie

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That kills the deal for me. The OG isn't enough of an improvement over the V3 to warrant foregoing Cam Plus Lite, unless you're already willing to pay for the upgraded subscription services regardless.

I consider the OG to be twice as good as the v3. The v3 went back (I tried both). Video quality is terrible especially if there is any sort of motion, and night quality is especially better on the OG.

I have no subscription, just a $12 constant write rated SD card in each one, works great for my needs. The image is always exactly what I need to see to decide if I need to tap the button to watch the stored video or not (it jumps right to the event on the SD card when you do that).

Dropping 5 minute cool down to 1 minute would be a nice option to have, but it hasn't been an issue for me.

drinkingbird

Nov 30, 2023 12:57 AM

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drinkingbirdNov 30, 2023 12:57 AM

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I think people need to realize that even at the regular $20 price, these cameras are like a "freemium" app on your phone. They're either breaking even or losing a bit of money. Basic features included, enough for many, but they will occasionally nag you to upgrade to the better version and pay for their service, and you will not have access to some of the more advanced features.

For me, I have 7 total - 2 Pan v3s and 5 OGs (4 regular and a Telephoto). 4 of them record 24x7 and have a 128G SD card rated for that. 3 of them record events only and are using just a decent 8 gig SD card. For under $200 all in (I didn't get as good of a deal, would be less than that now), including the memory cards, to have every inch of my property and all entrances covered, I have 0 complaints. Sure, there are some things that would be nice to have, but for what I paid, I won't be disappointed if I never get any of those things.

They aren't perfect but the value is great, as long as it fits your needs, and at least so far they don't nag very frequently to upgrade, and it is fairly non intrusive in the app when they do.

Last edited by drinkingbird November 29, 2023 at 05:00 PM.

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onpoint

Nov 30, 2023 01:14 AM

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Quote from mutantblack

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Like you said, no smart detection, no cloud back up, no native Web view, longer cool down, 2x,4x replay speed, smart event reports.

Since I have the free cam plus lite on my V2 and V3, I am sticking to Wyze. I wouldn't even consider Wyze if they take away the lite plan. This OG is not compatible with lite plan.

Wyze. com/pages/cam-plus-lite

Any new cams I buy (v3) aren't part of Cam Plus Lite for some reason. Only the older ones I have are grandfathered in.

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missellie

Nov 30, 2023 01:18 AM

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missellieNov 30, 2023 01:18 AM

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Quote from onpoint

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Any new cams I buy (v3) aren't part of Cam Plus Lite for some reason. Only the older ones I have are grandfathered in.

Did you go into your account and add the new cameras to Cam Plus Lite?

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JcT1977

Nov 30, 2023 01:24 AM

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JcT1977Nov 30, 2023 01:24 AM

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Is there such a thing as a WiFi camera you simply view with the ip address?

mutantblack

Nov 30, 2023 02:00 AM

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mutantblackNov 30, 2023 02:00 AM

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Quote from onpoint

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Any new cams I buy (v3) aren't part of Cam Plus Lite for some reason. Only the older ones I have are grandfathered in.

All my V3s are registered under the cam plus lite and working unless they change something recently.

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pechango

Nov 30, 2023 02:24 AM

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pechangoNov 30, 2023 02:24 AM

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Quote from drinkingbird

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For under $2 a month you remove the cool down and get AI detection and other stuff. For me, I just put SD cards in and record 24x7, works great.

I can do all of that with my cameras and don't pay anything per month. No cool down, no short clip limits, 24x7 or motion detection only.

Quote from drinkingbird

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Their service is hosted in AWS now (after people got all scared about it being hosted in China), and AWS charges by the byte. They're not going to give you unlimited cloud use for no charge.

I don't want cloud storage

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I do wish the cool down could be removed for SD card use, but the way these are designed, every event has to send a clip to the cloud for analysis, then a still image is stored from that clip, so it uses a good chunk of bandwidth for each event, even if all you see is a still frame.

Don't have that issue with the eufy cams.

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Let's be honest, at this price point, they want you to pay for a subscription, and they're not going to go out of their way to give you less reasons to do that.

And that's why I ditched them

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After having them for 6 months, I honestly don't think I'd want an event more than every 5 minutes. Most of my cameras are picking up frequent motion as they are outside, and the ones that are in areas that have infrequent motion, an alert that something moved there, plus the fact that I have 24x7 recording to SD card, that is all I need, if there are 2 events within 5 minutes, the video is there, I just have one picture instead of 2, no biggie.

The event recording doesn't make much sense if you have 24x7, but I don't want that. I only need to record motion events. And if motion continues, I want it to continue recording. If not, don't record. Wyze can do this, but they won't because of the subscription model they created. And I don't pay for subscriptions that I don't have to, so I ditched them, enjoyed the quick hammer blows I gave my Wyze V2, and moved to a better platform.

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drinkingbird

Nov 30, 2023 02:34 AM

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drinkingbirdNov 30, 2023 02:34 AM

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Quote from pechango

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I can do all of that with my cameras and don't pay anything per month. No cool down, no short clip limits, 24x7 or motion detection only.

I don't want cloud storage

Don't have that issue with the eufy cams.

And that's why I ditched them

The event recording doesn't make much sense if you have 24x7, but I don't want that. I only need to record motion events. And if motion continues, I want it to continue recording. If not, don't record. Wyze can do this, but they won't because of the subscription model they created. And I don't pay for subscriptions that I don't have to, so I ditched them, enjoyed the quick hammer blows I gave my Wyze V2, and moved to a better platform.

And the eufy cams are significantly more expensive, apples and oranges. If I wanted to, I could put in an amazing 8k resolution system with NVR, but I just wanted something cheap and basic. For that, these are perfect, for your needs/wants, they aren't, so you paid more up front to avoid needing a subscription.

Again, each has its place, people need to evaluate what is best for them. Some people need a Corolla, some need a 1 ton truck.

The people that pay big money for nest or ring only to have to pay even more to make them useful, those I don't understand.

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