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The back panel on the s89c looks identical to the s90c.
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I purchased this TV on Black Friday at Best Buy and it definitely has Filmmaker mode. It's the mode after Movie in the settings menu. It's also definitely a QD-OLED. I took a macro picture of the panel and it only has RGB sub pixels.
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I can confirm that it has Filmmaker Mode.
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Again, one more time this is QD-OLED! Not WOLED! I own this TV, the guy quoting months old articles that are talking about the EU version does not. Again, in EU it was WOLED, in NA it is QD-OLED. Here is the Canadian spec sheet, which shows it is QD-OLED. https://www.samsung.com/ca/tvs/ol...s89cbfxzc/ |
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Here a pic of Sub Pixels showing it is QD-OLED and not WOLED:
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https://imgur.com/a/EfdUVUR https://imgur.com/a/ee706wI https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/182k0fm/comment/kaxrml4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=w... [reddit.com] Now I am debating between getting an 77s95C (have an excellent open box one waiting to be picked up at $2900) and this 77s89c. <$1000 difference... oh well, YOLO! |
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I got the S89C into the back of my Honda Odyssey, in the box, it was not upright, but didn't have any trouble. I had some seats out to make it fit, but they come in/out pretty easily.
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The s89c has a stand. Different from the s90c but it has legs!
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It's got the same central legs without the bridge in the middle.
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Anapeak values of 588 point towards these being indeed Gen 2 QD-OLED panels.
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Wow, so maybe gen 2? 600+ is suppose to be gen 1 and 512 is suppose to be Gen 2 from my understanding? So 588?
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Somewhere in between? Maybe these are underperforming gen 2 panels? Thats extremely likely given this finding. No wait 512 is 65" It should be 588. Gen 2 confirmed. Buy away lads. Samsung was just drunk. |
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I had time to explore this TV, and so far, I can confirm the existence of a 'Film Maker Mode.' This TV is identical to the S90C, except for a subpar stand. A previous post mentioned a weak sound system, but I cannot verify this as I don't own the S90C. While searching for this TV on BB's mobile app a few days ago, I noticed two TVs with the same description but different titles. The one labeled 'wall mount TV' was priced at $2,999, while this one had a sale price. However, I need help finding the former, leading me to believe that BB is in the process of updating its website. These are essentially the same TV. That being said, I've been unable to access the 'ANA_PEAK' menu or whatever it is. I've taken some pictures for you to see for yourselves. The most noteworthy observation is that the software (SW) is based on the S90C. I'm sharing this information so that people can better understand, as this TV has limited reliable information. I'm not trying to persuade anyone to make a purchase or cancel their order.
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I can confirm that this TV does indeed have FilmMaker mode as well as QD OLED. I compared the sub pixels with my previous 65 inch LG C3. Super stoked about the purchase. Only complaint is the stand is a little flimsy for such a large TV.
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Ah ok, I didn't know it was that easy! DUH! Anyway results here —-> https://imgur.com/gallery/zjrunri
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I returned the S90C 65" I had purchased from Samsung since it was Gen 1 panel and I wanted to go bigger. Picked this up yesterday and wow it's awesome. I don't have a phone that takes macro photos, but I verified the Ana Peak of 588. It also has filmmaker mode.
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EDIT EDIT EDIT This appears to be gen 2 QD as now a screenshot of the service has been posted. Below is old info.
EDIT EDIT: This TV is a mystery. We only know for sure the original press release said WOLED by LG, then when it hit shelves, "Quantum" was quietly added to the item description. No independent testing has been done yet, but Rtings got one delivered Dec 7. No official word from Samsung on what panel it is (chat reps don't count).
My theory (speculation) is these are previously never released 77" Gen 1 panels. Why?
1) Uses a bit more power per specs than an S90C (Gen 1 was less efficient than Gen 2)
2) Only comes in 77" size (the only size never released during Gen 1 fabrication)
3) Probably low production numbers since it's only sold at Best Buy (Gen 1 had low yield issues which Samsung cited as the reason for no 77" QD TVs at first.)
4) They named it S89C implying it's somehow inferior to the S90C in the same way the S90C is to the S95C.
5) It doesn't makes sense to basically sell a S90C under a new name if it's wasn't somehow different to justify the different model number.
Before i get another comment about "Samsung never made a 77" gen 1" no, they never *released* a 77" gen 1. There's a very important distinction there.
Again, one more time this is QD-OLED! Not WOLED!
I own this TV, the guy quoting months old articles that are talking about the EU version does not. Again, in EU it was WOLED, in NA it is QD-OLED.
Here is the Canadian spec sheet, which shows it is QD-OLED. https://www.samsung.com/ca/tvs/ol...s89cbfxzc/
Somewhere in between? Maybe these are underperforming gen 2 panels? Thats extremely likely given this finding.
No wait 512 is 65" It should be 588. Gen 2 confirmed. Buy away lads. Samsung was just drunk.
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That being said, we are later in 2023, so hopefully more and more 2nd gen panels are more available
Watch the video from FOMO on YouTube for best tv of 2023. He recommends the s90c, but ONLY the 77 inch, because you are guaranteed the qd oled.
Regarding the s89c, who knows if you'll get a gen 1 or gen 2 panel?
Regarding the s89c, who knows if you'll get a gen 1 or gen 2 panel?
Yeah this TV is weird. One possibility why it's so poorly advertised is maybe it is a (previously unreleased) stock of Gen 1 panels. We have never seen Gen 1 panels in 77 in due to yield issues. But maybe they were being made and stock piled even at low yield.
Otherwise why would this TV exist? Ugh this hurts my brain.
So it's either gen 1 panels that were stockpiled from the low yield days till they had enough to make a model for them (would explain the model number being 89C, one below 90C) The higher power rating could be because gen 1 was a little less efficient. Also could explain the pricing being official on sale lower than S90C. And that there's only a 77" version. (actually this makes the most sense by far)
Or it's Gen 2 panels that were testing slightly better than the S90C panels and thus could be driven a little harder (explaining power but not model number). But why not call those 91C or something? And charge more for it?
Or this is the reality were there's no flipping reason for this and Samsung is drunk.
Out of pure speculation it makes more sense these are Gen1 panels for the way Samsung approached price and model number. O and that it's only sold at Best buy (meaning low stock numbers).
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I talked to Samsung Tech Support last week - who confirmed the S89CB uses 2nd Gen QD-OLED panel. (Attached proof to this post.)
It depends on where you live, and I should preface this by saying that we're not 100% sure what the exact differences are, as Samsung is incredibly vague on this. So, first of all, across all units of the S89C wherever you live, it doesn't support Filmmaker mode, so if you care about an accurate image you'll have to adjust some settings yourself. The biggest potential difference, though, is the exact panel used, and here's where things get confusing. It's been widely advertised that the S89C uses a WOLED panel from LG, similar to the LG C3 OLED, but it seems like that's only true in Europe. In North America, the S89C uses a QD-OLED panel, so it offers nearly identical picture quality to the S90C.
I talked to Samsung Tech Support last week - who confirmed the S89CB uses 2nd Gen QD-OLED panel. (Attached proof to this post.)
There's also a similar model to this known as the Samsung S89C. There's a lot of confusing information about this model, as it seems to use different panels in different regions. In North America, it's known as the S89CB, and according to user reports, it uses a QD-OLED panel similar to the S90C. In this case, the main difference between that model and the S90C is that the S89CB doesn't support Filmmaker mode. In Europe, it's advertised as the S89C, without the 'B' at the end, and it appears to use a WOLED panel from LG Display, similar to the LG C3 OLED or the Sony A80L/A80CL OLED. It has worse color volume and a slightly narrower color gamut, and like the North American model, it doesn't support Filmmaker mode; otherwise, it performs about the same as the S90C.
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There's also a similar model to this known as the Samsung S89C. There's a lot of confusing information about this model, as it seems to use different panels in different regions. In North America, it's known as the S89CB, and according to user reports, it uses a QD-OLED panel similar to the S90C. In this case, the main difference between that model and the S90C is that the S89CB doesn't support Filmmaker mode. In Europe, it's advertised as the S89C, without the 'B' at the end, and it appears to use a WOLED panel from LG Display, similar to the LG C3 OLED or the Sony A80L/A80CL OLED. It has worse color volume and a slightly narrower color gamut, and like the North American model, it doesn't support Filmmaker mode; otherwise, it performs about the same as the S90C.
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