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77” Samsung S89C OLED 4K UHD Smart Tizen TV + Samsung A Series 2.1.Ch Soundbar

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Best Buy has 77" Samsung S89C OLED 4K UHD Smart Tizen TV (QN77S89CBFXZA) + Samsung A Series 2.1.ch Dolby & DTS Soundbar (HW-A445/ZA) on sale for $1999.99. Shipping is free to qualifying locations, otherwise, select free curbside pickup as an alternative option.

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Specs/Key Features:
  • Resolution: 3840x2160 (4K UHD)
  • Refresh Rate: 120Hz
  • WiFi + Bluetooth 5.2
  • VESA Mount: 400mm x 300mm
  • FreeSync Premium (AMD Adaptive Sync)
  • Tizen Smart Platform
  • Motion Xcelerator Turbo Pro
  • Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant
    • Inputs
      • 4x HDMI
      • 2x USB

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Best Buy has 77" Samsung S89C OLED 4K UHD Smart Tizen TV (QN77S89CBFXZA) + Samsung A Series 2.1.ch Dolby & DTS Soundbar (HW-A445/ZA) on sale for $1999.99. Shipping is free to qualifying locations, otherwise, select free curbside pickup as an alternative option.

Thanks to Deal Hunter PennyFound for finding this deal.

Specs/Key Features:
  • Resolution: 3840x2160 (4K UHD)
  • Refresh Rate: 120Hz
  • WiFi + Bluetooth 5.2
  • VESA Mount: 400mm x 300mm
  • FreeSync Premium (AMD Adaptive Sync)
  • Tizen Smart Platform
  • Motion Xcelerator Turbo Pro
  • Amazon Alexa, Google Assistant
    • Inputs
      • 4x HDMI
      • 2x USB

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madsci1016
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S90C with it's far superior QD panel can be had for $2091 on samsung.com with EPP (educators, AAA, work, etc) discount stacked with a certain cashback app. A month or so ago that was $1800, so not the best price right now. Still enough to not want this TV though.

EDIT EDIT EDIT This appears to be gen 2 QD as now a screenshot of the service has been posted. Below is old info.

EDIT EDIT: This TV is a mystery. We only know for sure the original press release said WOLED by LG, then when it hit shelves, "Quantum" was quietly added to the item description. No independent testing has been done yet, but Rtings got one delivered Dec 7. No official word from Samsung on what panel it is (chat reps don't count).

My theory (speculation) is these are previously never released 77" Gen 1 panels. Why?

1) Uses a bit more power per specs than an S90C (Gen 1 was less efficient than Gen 2)
2) Only comes in 77" size (the only size never released during Gen 1 fabrication)
3) Probably low production numbers since it's only sold at Best Buy (Gen 1 had low yield issues which Samsung cited as the reason for no 77" QD TVs at first.)
4) They named it S89C implying it's somehow inferior to the S90C in the same way the S90C is to the S95C.
5) It doesn't makes sense to basically sell a S90C under a new name if it's wasn't somehow different to justify the different model number.

Before i get another comment about "Samsung never made a 77" gen 1" no, they never *released* a 77" gen 1. There's a very important distinction there.
dperolio
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Again, one more time this is QD-OLED! Not WOLED!

I own this TV, the guy quoting months old articles that are talking about the EU version does not. Again, in EU it was WOLED, in NA it is QD-OLED.

Here is the Canadian spec sheet, which shows it is QD-OLED. https://www.samsung.com/ca/tvs/ol...s89cbfxzc/
madsci1016
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Wow, so maybe gen 2? 600+ is suppose to be gen 1 and 512 is suppose to be Gen 2 from my understanding? So 588?

Somewhere in between? Maybe these are underperforming gen 2 panels? Thats extremely likely given this finding.

No wait 512 is 65" It should be 588. Gen 2 confirmed. Buy away lads. Samsung was just drunk.

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Dec 10, 2023 06:12 PM
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madsci1016Dec 10, 2023 06:12 PM
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Quote from nicksblackroush :
I can see you're posting in that thread, but I mentioned it because Adam Babcock said this.

"It depends on where you live, and I should preface this by saying that we're not 100% sure what the exact differences are, as Samsung is incredibly vague on this. So, first of all, across all units of the S89C wherever you live, it doesn't support Filmmaker mode, so if you care about an accurate image you'll have to adjust some settings yourself. The biggest potential difference, though, is the exact panel used, and here's where things get confusing. It's been widely advertised that the S89C uses a WOLED panel from LG, similar to the LG C3 OLED, but it seems like that's only true in Europe. In North America, the S89C uses a QD-OLED panel, so it offers nearly identical picture quality to the S90C."
Some missing context based on time and across websites: he was participating in the reddit thread where this wall all first discovered and theorized by end users, so he's just repeating what was discussed there.

The fact they are just reposting user speculation is better cited in their S90C article: "In North America, it's known as the S89CB, and according to user reports, it uses a QD-OLED panel similar to the S90C." .... and the "user reports" links to the original reddit thread.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews...ifferences

So it's still not actually confirmed by Rtings themselves yet. They just got the TV 2 days ago.
Dec 10, 2023 06:15 PM
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nicksblackroushDec 10, 2023 06:15 PM
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Quote from madsci1016 :
Some missing context based on time and across websites: he was participating in the reddit thread where this wall all first discovered and theorized by end users, so he's just repeating what was discussed there.

The fact they are just reposting user speculation is better cited in their S90C article: "In North America, it's known as the S89CB, and according to user reports, it uses a QD-OLED panel similar to the S90C." .... and the "user reports" links to the original reddit thread.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews...ifferences

So it's still not actually confirmed by Rtings themselves yet. They just got the TV 2 days ago.
At this point I think you just like to argue lol.
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htowngatorDec 10, 2023 07:50 PM
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So digital trends was quoting a report that didn't specifically call out regional differences in the model or that BB's own listing now literally calls it "quantum oled"? Lol
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wbs3333
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Dec 10, 2023 07:58 PM
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Isn't the fact that the pixel arrangement is different to WOLED sub-pixel arrangement enough to at least reach to the conclusion that NA Best Buy S89CB are not WOLED WRGBs? At least for the batch being sold today.
Dec 10, 2023 08:13 PM
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08CivicSiDec 10, 2023 08:13 PM
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Quote from nicksblackroush :
We picked up one yesterday, and it's amazing. Thank you for all of the information in this thread that helped make the decision.

Question though, I went ahead and got the 5 year geek squad protection. I just can't shake the fact that I spent nearly 25% of the cost of the TV on it. I have 30 days to cancel, what are we thinking about the longevity of these? I really doubt burn in will be an issue for us.
I did the 5 years also...peace of mind is worth it
Dec 10, 2023 08:15 PM
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08CivicSiDec 10, 2023 08:15 PM
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Quote from JollySofa712 :
"Some" guy, who works for a company that has been around since 2006, that has contacts industrywide, and has over 1.1mm followers. I'll take his word over random SD posters.
That guy is apparently an idiot. We have literal pics of the pixels and I posted ana peak value as I'm literally watching the TV right now...also multiple ppl on avs forum confirm qd...so whatever LMAO
Dec 10, 2023 08:59 PM
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ikidyounotDec 10, 2023 08:59 PM
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Quote from 08CivicSi :
That guy is apparently an idiot. We have literal pics of the pixels and I posted ana peak value as I'm literally watching the TV right now...also multiple ppl on avs forum confirm qd...so whatever LMAO
I had time to explore this TV, and so far, I can confirm the existence of a 'Film Maker Mode.' This TV is identical to the S90C, except for a subpar stand. A previous post mentioned a weak sound system, but I cannot verify this as I don't own the S90C. While searching for this TV on BB's mobile app a few days ago, I noticed two TVs with the same description but different titles. The one labeled 'wall mount TV' was priced at $2,999, while this one had a sale price. However, I need help finding the former, leading me to believe that BB is in the process of updating its website. These are essentially the same TV. That being said, I've been unable to access the 'ANA_PEAK' menu or whatever it is. I've taken some pictures for you to see for yourselves. The most noteworthy observation is that the software (SW) is based on the S90C. I'm sharing this information so that people can better understand, as this TV has limited reliable information. I'm not trying to persuade anyone to make a purchase or cancel their order.
https://imgur.com/a/pwamiml

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Dec 10, 2023 09:01 PM
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08CivicSiDec 10, 2023 09:01 PM
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Quote from ikidyounot :
I had time to explore this TV, and so far, I can confirm the existence of a 'Film Maker Mode.' This TV is identical to the S90C, except for a subpar stand. A previous post mentioned a weak sound system, but I cannot verify this as I don't own the S90C. While searching for this TV on BB's mobile app a few days ago, I noticed two TVs with the same description but different titles. The one labeled 'wall mount TV' was priced at $2,999, while this one had a sale price. However, I need help finding the former, leading me to believe that BB is in the process of updating its website. These are essentially the same TV. That being said, I've been unable to access the 'ANA_PEAK' menu or whatever it is. I've taken some pictures for you to see for yourselves. The most noteworthy observation is that the software (SW) is based on the S90C. I'm sharing this information so that people can better understand, as this TV has limited reliable information. I'm not trying to persuade anyone to make a purchase or cancel their order.
https://imgur.com/a/pwamiml
No need to access the menu. I posted a pic of it 2 days ago. I am in the US and every s89c will have the same panel in North America. They're gen 2 QD panels.
Dec 10, 2023 09:41 PM
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xXSluggXxDec 10, 2023 09:41 PM
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To those who bought, did it have a protective layer to remove once unboxed? I just picked ours up and we will unbox in a little bit. Trying to plan ahead with laying it face down on the bed to install the feet. Any other tips for setup? Will be on a stand and not wall mounted obviously.
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Dec 10, 2023 09:53 PM
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nicksblackroushDec 10, 2023 09:53 PM
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Quote from xXSluggXx :
To those who bought, did it have a protective layer to remove once unboxed? I just picked ours up and we will unbox in a little bit. Trying to plan ahead with laying it face down on the bed to install the feet. Any other tips for setup? Will be on a stand and not wall mounted obviously.
You can install the feet before pulling it out of the Styrofoam base. There's instructions on the box on how to do it. And yes it has a screen protector.
Dec 10, 2023 10:12 PM
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ikidyounotDec 10, 2023 10:12 PM
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Quote from xXSluggXx :
To those who bought, did it have a protective layer to remove once unboxed? I just picked ours up and we will unbox in a little bit. Trying to plan ahead with laying it face down on the bed to install the feet. Any other tips for setup? Will be on a stand and not wall mounted obviously.
It does come with a protective film.
We just do it like the people in the hood: Run your AC power cord. Place either side of the TV on the foam that came with the TV, ensuring all legs are well aligned. One person is needed to hold the TV while you assemble the stands. Subsequently, move it to the table. Smilie
https://imgur.com/a/kpD7XuR
Last edited by ikidyounot December 10, 2023 at 02:23 PM.
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Dec 10, 2023 10:25 PM
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xXSluggXxDec 10, 2023 10:25 PM
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Quote from nicksblackroush :
You can install the feet before pulling it out of the Styrofoam base. There's instructions on the box on how to do it. And yes it has a screen protector.
Good to know! Thanks!
Dec 10, 2023 11:11 PM
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chunkeeDec 10, 2023 11:11 PM
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Are these TVS bright enough for a sunlit room?
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htowngatorDec 11, 2023 01:58 AM
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Quote from JollySofa712 :
lol, oops.

https://youtu.be/gVNLwcrQ6zA?si=O6_zH_0jeXR4DaCD
He already walked it back and said he is not sure -- it was all based on press released crap from months ago. Maybe you can report back once he confirms what everyone has already said about it.

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htowngatorDec 11, 2023 02:00 AM
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Quote from wbs3333 :
The problem I have with this video is that Digital Trends did not provide any sources where they got that information. Did they do any testing? Did they contacted Samsung's engineering team? Or did they just read it from the same European article everone else read?
He's already apologizing in the comments and saying he's mad Samsung's press release is wrong.

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