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The back panel on the s89c looks identical to the s90c.
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I purchased this TV on Black Friday at Best Buy and it definitely has Filmmaker mode. It's the mode after Movie in the settings menu. It's also definitely a QD-OLED. I took a macro picture of the panel and it only has RGB sub pixels.
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I can confirm that it has Filmmaker Mode.
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Again, one more time this is QD-OLED! Not WOLED! I own this TV, the guy quoting months old articles that are talking about the EU version does not. Again, in EU it was WOLED, in NA it is QD-OLED. Here is the Canadian spec sheet, which shows it is QD-OLED. https://www.samsung.com/ca/tvs/ol...s89cbfxzc/ |
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Here a pic of Sub Pixels showing it is QD-OLED and not WOLED:
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https://imgur.com/a/EfdUVUR https://imgur.com/a/ee706wI https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/182k0fm/comment/kaxrml4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=w... [reddit.com] Now I am debating between getting an 77s95C (have an excellent open box one waiting to be picked up at $2900) and this 77s89c. <$1000 difference... oh well, YOLO! |
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I got the S89C into the back of my Honda Odyssey, in the box, it was not upright, but didn't have any trouble. I had some seats out to make it fit, but they come in/out pretty easily.
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The s89c has a stand. Different from the s90c but it has legs!
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It's got the same central legs without the bridge in the middle.
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Anapeak values of 588 point towards these being indeed Gen 2 QD-OLED panels.
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Wow, so maybe gen 2? 600+ is suppose to be gen 1 and 512 is suppose to be Gen 2 from my understanding? So 588?
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Somewhere in between? Maybe these are underperforming gen 2 panels? Thats extremely likely given this finding. No wait 512 is 65" It should be 588. Gen 2 confirmed. Buy away lads. Samsung was just drunk. |
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I had time to explore this TV, and so far, I can confirm the existence of a 'Film Maker Mode.' This TV is identical to the S90C, except for a subpar stand. A previous post mentioned a weak sound system, but I cannot verify this as I don't own the S90C. While searching for this TV on BB's mobile app a few days ago, I noticed two TVs with the same description but different titles. The one labeled 'wall mount TV' was priced at $2,999, while this one had a sale price. However, I need help finding the former, leading me to believe that BB is in the process of updating its website. These are essentially the same TV. That being said, I've been unable to access the 'ANA_PEAK' menu or whatever it is. I've taken some pictures for you to see for yourselves. The most noteworthy observation is that the software (SW) is based on the S90C. I'm sharing this information so that people can better understand, as this TV has limited reliable information. I'm not trying to persuade anyone to make a purchase or cancel their order.
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I can confirm that this TV does indeed have FilmMaker mode as well as QD OLED. I compared the sub pixels with my previous 65 inch LG C3. Super stoked about the purchase. Only complaint is the stand is a little flimsy for such a large TV.
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Ah ok, I didn't know it was that easy! DUH! Anyway results here —-> https://imgur.com/gallery/zjrunri
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I returned the S90C 65" I had purchased from Samsung since it was Gen 1 panel and I wanted to go bigger. Picked this up yesterday and wow it's awesome. I don't have a phone that takes macro photos, but I verified the Ana Peak of 588. It also has filmmaker mode.
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EDIT EDIT EDIT This appears to be gen 2 QD as now a screenshot of the service has been posted. Below is old info.
EDIT EDIT: This TV is a mystery. We only know for sure the original press release said WOLED by LG, then when it hit shelves, "Quantum" was quietly added to the item description. No independent testing has been done yet, but Rtings got one delivered Dec 7. No official word from Samsung on what panel it is (chat reps don't count).
My theory (speculation) is these are previously never released 77" Gen 1 panels. Why?
1) Uses a bit more power per specs than an S90C (Gen 1 was less efficient than Gen 2)
2) Only comes in 77" size (the only size never released during Gen 1 fabrication)
3) Probably low production numbers since it's only sold at Best Buy (Gen 1 had low yield issues which Samsung cited as the reason for no 77" QD TVs at first.)
4) They named it S89C implying it's somehow inferior to the S90C in the same way the S90C is to the S95C.
5) It doesn't makes sense to basically sell a S90C under a new name if it's wasn't somehow different to justify the different model number.
Before i get another comment about "Samsung never made a 77" gen 1" no, they never *released* a 77" gen 1. There's a very important distinction there.
Again, one more time this is QD-OLED! Not WOLED!
I own this TV, the guy quoting months old articles that are talking about the EU version does not. Again, in EU it was WOLED, in NA it is QD-OLED.
Here is the Canadian spec sheet, which shows it is QD-OLED. https://www.samsung.com/ca/tvs/ol...s89cbfxzc/
Somewhere in between? Maybe these are underperforming gen 2 panels? Thats extremely likely given this finding.
No wait 512 is 65" It should be 588. Gen 2 confirmed. Buy away lads. Samsung was just drunk.
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Why so so much Unprompted hyperbole?
Question though, I went ahead and got the 5 year geek squad protection. I just can't shake the fact that I spent nearly 25% of the cost of the TV on it. I have 30 days to cancel, what are we thinking about the longevity of these? I really doubt burn in will be an issue for us.
My take on the info is that new OLED still have burn-in and image retention. That difference is that the image processor have algorithm to reduce burn-in and avoid image retention. However, they can still and will get burn-in, ie if you watch CNN or any other TV content with a constant bright area like the CNN logo or news banner, that area will get burn-in. Sadly, OLEDs with time will lose image quality due to that and also brightness. LED TVs also have burn-in and lose brightness but is not as bad.
If there are people in your household that tend to watch that kind of content, play games and leave the TV paused for prolong amount of times, fall asleep with the TV turned On, or a child that might throw things at it, then it might be worth it getting the extended warranty.
I recommend reading what is really covered by it, reviews of people that submitted a claim, and checking other companies that provide them.
This is one of the reasons I would maybe consider waiting for the S90C to drop in price and getting the warranty from Costco. They usually are very good when it comes to returns. However, I heard Best Buy for 77in TVs send the geek squad to your home instead of having you take it into the store, which if true might be worth considering.
The guy after you canceled his order because of your post.
To me, that video adds nothing to the discussion because he didn't say anything worthy of adding to the discussion.
And I never said it was proof. I said it was not proof. Are you Ok this morning?
My take on the info is that new OLED still have burn-in and image retention. That difference is that the image processor have algorithm to reduce burn-in and avoid image retention. However, they can still and will get burn-in, ie if you watch CNN or any other TV content with a constant bright area like the CNN logo or news banner, that area will get burn-in. Sadly, OLEDs with time will lose image quality due to that and also brightness. LED TVs also have burn-in and lose brightness but is not as bad.
If there are people in your household that tend to watch that kind of content, play games and leave the TV paused for prolong amount of times, fall asleep with the TV turned On, or a child that might throw things at it, then it might be worth it getting the extended warranty.
I recommend reading what is really covered by it, reviews of people that submitted a claim, and checking other companies that provide them.
This is one of the reasons I would maybe consider waiting for the S90C to drop in price and getting the warranty from Costco. They usually are very good when it comes to returns. However, I heard Best Buy for 77in TVs send the geek squad to your home instead of having you take it into the store, which if true might be worth considering.
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Why so so much Unprompted hyperbole?
https://youtu.be/gVNLwcrQ6zA?si=
Again, you do you.
Again, you do you.
I expect news outlets (who do less investigative reporting in favor of just regurgitating press releases (kinda fair for quick turn FAQ videos like that one)) to be getting this wrong for a while. Rtings is the best group to get this sorted out, as officially as possible without an update from Samsung. And no, they have not published or confirmed QD themselves yet, it was us users commenting as such on their website or them reporting what reddit users are sayin. They just got the TV themselves 2 days ago.
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I expect news outlets (who do less investigative reporting in favor of just regurgitating press releases (kinda fair for quick turn FAQ videos like that one)) to be getting this wrong for a while. Rtings is the best group to get this sorted out, as officially as possible without an update from Samsung. And no, they have not published or confirmed QD themselves yet, it was us users commenting as such on their website or them reporting what reddit users are sayin. They just got the TV themselves 2 days ago.
"It depends on where you live, and I should preface this by saying that we're not 100% sure what the exact differences are, as Samsung is incredibly vague on this. So, first of all, across all units of the S89C wherever you live, it doesn't support Filmmaker mode, so if you care about an accurate image you'll have to adjust some settings yourself. The biggest potential difference, though, is the exact panel used, and here's where things get confusing. It's been widely advertised that the S89C uses a WOLED panel from LG, similar to the LG C3 OLED, but it seems like that's only true in Europe. In North America, the S89C uses a QD-OLED panel, so it offers nearly identical picture quality to the S90C."
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