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frontpageNavy-Wife | Staff posted Dec 06, 2023 09:32 PM
Mountain Hardwear 65% Off Select Styles: Men's Hicamp Shell Jacket (Trail Dust)
& More + Free S/H$56
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Mountain Hardwear is renowned in the hiking community for creating one of the lightest down jackets in existence, the Ghost Whisperer, the Ghost Shadow that's on sale here is the synthetic version of that jacket.
Columbia is known by dads for making those $20 fleeces.
The magma has chevron baffles and appears to be designed as more of a heavier insulating jacket, while the Ghost Shadow is extremely light and designed to be a trekking jacket.
However, the magma is extremely light as well due to its 850 fill down, which is extremely expensive.
If I was new to hiking, or didn't already have a jacket, I would choose the Magma, just on the principal that buying a down jacket with those types of stats will easily cost you 2-$300.
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The first thing almost every active adult over 30-40 can do is lose 10 pounds.
Nobody who isn't doing super long range backpacking needs to care about 4oz. Now, good point on the whole since it adds up! And, that % difference is pretty heavy.
Generally speaking, SDers have next to no understanding of the value of higher priced outdoor-related items. I have 25-35 year old Patagonia, TNF, Mountain Hardwear, Moonstone, etc. gear that still functions. When it wears out, they warranty replace it. I still actively use a Primaloft TNF 0 degree bag that turned 30 this year.
As others have mentioned, you're approximately saving 4oz for $100 more, which won't make a difference on a day-hike or a 10-mile overnight but might be worth it on a 25-mile-a-day 3000+ mile thru-hike, which brings me to my next point: whether you need one or the other, which is where there seems to be disagreement in this thread, depends on your typical/planned usage, experience, and physiological makeup. Even at the same outdoor temperature, there is a huge difference in trail running up 6,000ft over 8 miles and taking a 5-mile stroll in a (flat) forest (please note I am deliberately taking extreme examples). Additionally, different people sweat more/less quickly, get cold slower/faster, etc... At the end of the day, it's a highly personal decision and most "experienced" hikers/backpackers will own both (along with many other types) and take which either is more appropriate for their planned outing.
As others have mentioned, you're approximately saving 4oz for $100 more, which won't make a difference on a day-hike or a 10-mile overnight but might be worth it on a 25-mile-a-day 3000+ mile thru-hike, which brings me to my next point: whether you need one or the other, which is where there seems to be disagreement in this thread, depends on your typical/planned usage, experience, and physiological makeup. Even at the same outdoor temperature, there is a huge difference in trail running up 6,000ft over 8 miles and taking a 5-mile stroll in a (flat) forest (please note I am deliberately taking extreme examples). Additionally, different people sweat more/less quickly, get cold slower/faster, etc... At the end of the day, it's a highly personal decision and most "experienced" hikers/backpackers will own both (along with many other types) and take which either is more appropriate for their planned outing.
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