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expiredwaryman posted Dec 16, 2023 01:07 AM
expiredwaryman posted Dec 16, 2023 01:07 AM

Synology 6 Bay Desktop NAS DiskStation DS620slim (Diskless) $360.99 NewEgg

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Synology DS620 slim -- 6 bay NAS

Normally $450 but on sale for $89 USD off with code "NASSYNA77" -- also posted on web page

Shipping is $2.99

https://www.newegg.com/synology-d...6822108621
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Synology DS620 slim -- 6 bay NAS

Normally $450 but on sale for $89 USD off with code "NASSYNA77" -- also posted on web page

Shipping is $2.99

https://www.newegg.com/synology-d...6822108621

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Dec 17, 2023 02:49 PM
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dcliveDec 17, 2023 02:49 PM
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Quote from HWTactics :
I have one of these. Using 1.92TB Sandisk Cloudspeed enterprise SSDs that were $100 apiece and a USB 2.5gbps NIC. Transcodes all the HD video I've downloaded streaming thru a web browser with <20% CPU usage at 1080p. It's so tiny and cute and quiet lol. Good performance with iSCSI for homelab use too.
Exactly which USB NIC? Amazon link?

Difficulty in setting up ?
Dec 17, 2023 03:49 PM
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savDec 17, 2023 03:49 PM
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I read description as "dickless"
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Dec 17, 2023 03:53 PM
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felowes10101sDec 17, 2023 03:53 PM
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Code can't be applied to third party seller so it remains normal price.
Dec 17, 2023 04:21 PM
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justinmm2Dec 17, 2023 04:21 PM
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Quote from ben_r_ :
I've always been kinda confused about the slim variants of Synology NAS units. Are these just for folks who happen to have a bunch of laptop/2.5" HDDs laying around? They don't look like they're THAT much smaller, so I can't imagine people use them for actual space saving reasons. That and the price per gig goes up so much higher and you hit the max drive size so much quicker with 2.5" HDDs. Unless the goal is to use all SSDs, but with these units not having 10G Ethernet ports, what's the point in that?
I've always wanted a good one. I have a small closet in my studio apt. where I stick a lot of my AV and computing equipment, and I like using SSDs to avoid noise and heat (and gain performance! SSD -> HDD backup is 30/40MB/s, SSD->SSD is 100-110MB/s). What kills this for me is the lack of I/O performance. My DS1812+ that I've got a few SSDs in is great, but the CPU/IO is very, very slow and the only real area where the machine shows its age (well, that and not being able to upgrade to new DSMs).

The annoying thing for me is that the price of like an 1822+ or whatever the newer one is is hard to justify when the 1812+ works as well as it does, just so slowly. The slims have a better CPU, but still show as having more limited I/O, so they're in a similar boat, and I lose the ability to keep a big HDD or two in there to back everything up.
Dec 17, 2023 05:04 PM
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jpham209Dec 17, 2023 05:04 PM
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Out of stock. Only 3rd party sellers now.
Dec 17, 2023 05:29 PM
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TidalWaveOneDec 17, 2023 05:29 PM
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Quote from Spankybean :
Even today, 2.5 on the networking hardware side is pretty rare for consumer gear.
Yeah... that's surprising. 2.5 Ethernet should be the bare minimum on any half-way decent NAS in late 2023, even for consumers.
Dec 17, 2023 05:31 PM
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TidalWaveOneDec 17, 2023 05:31 PM
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Quote from sav :
I read description as "dickless"
You're in luck because it's also dickless.

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Dec 17, 2023 07:31 PM
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SpankybeanDec 17, 2023 07:31 PM
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Quote from TidalWaveOne :
Yeah... that's surprising. 2.5 Ethernet should be the bare minimum on any half-way decent NAS in late 2023, even for consumers.
Like I posted, this is a 2020 NAS, not a 2023 model.
Dec 17, 2023 07:49 PM
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TidalWaveOneDec 17, 2023 07:49 PM
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Quote from Spankybean :
Like I posted, this is a 2020 NAS, not a 2023 model.
But it's being sold new in late 2023 so it desperately needs updating.
Dec 18, 2023 11:29 PM
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dcliveDec 18, 2023 11:29 PM
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Quote from justinmm2 :
I've always wanted a good one. I have a small closet in my studio apt. where I stick a lot of my AV and computing equipment, and I like using SSDs to avoid noise and heat (and gain performance! SSD -> HDD backup is 30/40MB/s, SSD->SSD is 100-110MB/s). What kills this for me is the lack of I/O performance. My DS1812+ that I've got a few SSDs in is great, but the CPU/IO is very, very slow and the only real area where the machine shows its age (well, that and not being able to upgrade to new DSMs).

The annoying thing for me is that the price of like an 1822+ or whatever the newer one is is hard to justify when the 1812+ works as well as it does, just so slowly. The slims have a better CPU, but still show as having more limited I/O, so they're in a similar boat, and I lose the ability to keep a big HDD or two in there to back everything up.
You might check your drives. A HDD in a Syno NAS should easily be able to sustain 100MB/s or so for writing large .ISO files (ie a single stream of data). Are you writing concurrent data to it?
Dec 19, 2023 06:27 AM
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justinmm2Dec 19, 2023 06:27 AM
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Quote from dclive :
You might check your drives. A HDD in a Syno NAS should easily be able to sustain 100MB/s or so for writing large .ISO files (ie a single stream of data). Are you writing concurrent data to it?
You make an interesting point. I always assumed it was CPU or PCI-related, but then that wouldn't explain the faster speeds I'm seeing with SSDs. hdparm -tT on the SSDs and HDDs shows results that are more similar than different (e.g, relatively close, not 2-3x). I recall trying to tweak some of the DMA modes or something at one point last year and not being any better (or worse) off. I'm definitely curious, and the numbers I'm citing from HyperBackup are usually the results of multi-GB file transfers. Last time I spent a lot of time looking at HDD performance was the early 2000s; I didn't realize they were so much faster now.

Any tools you recommend for debugging? I know hdparm is on there, but not sure what else the box has. Oddly, I'm more familiar with the internals than most - I've modified mine to exclude HDDs from the system partition so that they'll spin down(!!), and have even spent time modifying the Synology init scripts (but largely abandoned that efforts for fear DSM upgrades would almost certainly overwrite them). I'm also fortunate enough to have (added) a second gig of RAM to mine Smilie

Cheers!
Dec 19, 2023 06:30 AM
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dcliveDec 19, 2023 06:30 AM
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Quote from justinmm2 :
You make an interesting point. I always assumed it was CPU or PCI-related, but then that wouldn't explain the faster speeds I'm seeing with SSDs. hdparm -tT on the SSDs and HDDs shows results that are more similar than different (e.g, relatively close, not 2-3x). I recall trying to tweak some of the DMA modes or something at one point last year and not being any better (or worse) off. I'm definitely curious, and the numbers I'm citing from HyperBackup are usually the results of multi-GB file transfers. Last time I spent a lot of time looking at HDD performance was the early 2000s; I didn't realize they were so much faster now.

Any tools you recommend for debugging? I know hdparm is on there, but not sure what else the box has. Oddly, I'm more familiar with the internals than most - I've modified mine to exclude HDDs from the system partition so that they'll spin down(!!), and have even spent time modifying the Synology init scripts (but largely abandoned that efforts for fear DSM upgrades would almost certainly overwrite them). I'm also fortunate enough to have (added) a second gig of RAM to mine Smilie

Cheers!
RAM won't help; it's a simple write operation at 100MB/s, ethernet speeds.

I would also test without any scripts. Synology knows what they are doing around making a NAS; confirm generic works first.

Open up task manager / activity manager / whatever it is in Syno-OS, and look at the tasks and connections (SMB, etc.). Make sure nothing is happening. Transfer a file over GigE to the NAS, just one, ISO format, and see how long it takes going to a HDD.

A modern HDD can easily sustain 100MB/s throughout. Sure, a bit of up and down is fine, but overall, 100MB/s should be the benchmark.
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phillip9Dec 29, 2023 03:00 AM
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Hi

I need to buy a 6 bay intel NAS before the end of the year, mostly for plex . Did I miss all the sales ?

Any helpful information would be appreciated

Thank you very much
Dec 29, 2023 02:59 PM
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dcliveDec 29, 2023 02:59 PM
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Quote from phillip9 :
Hi

I need to buy a 6 bay intel NAS before the end of the year, mostly for plex . Did I miss all the sales ?

Any helpful information would be appreciated

Thank you very much
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