Adorama has Gretsch G2604T Streamliner Rally II Center Block Electric Guitar w/ Bigsby B70 Vibrato Tailpiece (Oxblood) on sale for $349. Shipping is free.
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Super Hilo'Tron pickups
Double-cutaway 16" arched maple body with chambered mahogany center block
12"-radius laurel fingerboard with pearloid Neo-Classic Thumbnail inlays and 22 medium jumbo frets
Gretsch G-Arrow radio control knobs
Plexi pickguard and truss rod cover with vintage-style striping
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Adorama has Gretsch G2604T Streamliner Rally II Center Block Electric Guitar w/ Bigsby B70 Vibrato Tailpiece (Oxblood) on sale for $349. Shipping is free.
Thanks to Deal Editor iconian for sharing this deal.
About this Item:
Super Hilo'Tron pickups
Double-cutaway 16" arched maple body with chambered mahogany center block
12"-radius laurel fingerboard with pearloid Neo-Classic Thumbnail inlays and 22 medium jumbo frets
Gretsch G-Arrow radio control knobs
Plexi pickguard and truss rod cover with vintage-style striping
Model: Gretsch Guitars G2604t Limited-Edition Streamliner Rally Ii Center Block Double-Cut With Bigsby Electric Guitar Oxblood
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I'm an experienced guitar player so here's my two cents. This has a bigsby tremolo system, which makes this guitar a challenge to keep in tune. I usually have to do a few mods for these like changing the spring and using pencil graphite on the nut. Even then, it can be difficult to keep the tuning somewhat stable. For a beginner, I would recommend getting a similar guitar without the tremolo, or one with a more stable tremolo system, constant tuning issues are not something you want to experience while learning how you to play.
It should be a really good beginner's guitar. The guitar you need will be in part based on what style of music you want to play. Most modern music (rock, country, blues, etc..) could be played on this. If you want to play classical or acoustic/folk guitar, this would not be ideal.
I'm an experienced guitar player so here's my two cents. This has a bigsby tremolo system, which makes this guitar a challenge to keep in tune. I usually have to do a few mods for these like changing the spring and using pencil graphite on the nut. Even then, it can be difficult to keep the tuning somewhat stable. For a beginner, I would recommend getting a similar guitar without the tremolo, or one with a more stable tremolo system, constant tuning issues are not something you want to experience while learning how you to play.
I'm an experienced guitar player so here's my two cents. This has a bigsby tremolo system, which makes this guitar a challenge to keep in tune. I usually have to do a few mods for these like changing the spring and using pencil graphite on the nut. Even then, it can be difficult to keep the tuning somewhat stable. For a beginner, I would recommend getting a similar guitar without the tremolo, or one with a more stable tremolo system, constant tuning issues are not something you want to experience while learning how you to play.
If you don't use the tremelo will it still constantly get out of tune?
If you don't use the tremelo will it still constantly get out of tune?
Yes. And Bigsby arm will be interfering with picking hand, unless you will turn it all the way back. There is 2655 smaller body streamliner without tremolo deal for less.
But if you like this one better - go for it. It's just a hobby after all.
I'm an experienced guitar player so here's my two cents. This has a bigsby tremolo system, which makes this guitar a challenge to keep in tune. I usually have to do a few mods for these like changing the spring and using pencil graphite on the nut. Even then, it can be difficult to keep the tuning somewhat stable. For a beginner, I would recommend getting a similar guitar without the tremolo, or one with a more stable tremolo system, constant tuning issues are not something you want to experience while learning how you to play.
I made a rookie-mistake that turned into a newfound 'discovery' when restringing my Vox Bobcat w/ Bigsby. After restringing I notice that I didn't pass the strings under the tension bar... LOL! What I did notice after this is that the guitar stays in tune way better than it did before hahahaha. I posted this on TGP and it turns out a number of ppl intentionally do this to 'improve" playability and overall stability. I found a YouTube video of a guy who intentionally bypassed the tension bar when restringing, demoed it and swears by it
I think they make a model of Bigsby that doesn't have a tension bar - I think the tension bar may play a pretty big role in the overall tuning stability though.
For the nut, I applied some mineral oil with a toothpick as per a friend's suggestion so that may have helped with the tuning stability as well.
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This is a good starter through pro guitar. These 2000 and 5000 series Gretsch guitars are insanely good for the price. The built quality is fantastic and the fretboard plays like butter. You'll be very happy with it.
Bonus is you'll get acoustic and electric tones out of it
Yes. And Bigsby arm will be interfering with picking hand, unless you will turn it all the way back. There is 2655 smaller body streamliner without tremolo deal for less.
But if you like this one better - go for it. It's just a hobby after all.
The Bigsby on these is pretty stable. They're using really good springs in them.
Tuning issues usually pop up when the sping gets worn (that takes a long time) or there's a binding issue in the bridge or nut (some lube helps with that).
This is a good starter through pro guitar. These 2000 and 5000 series Gretsch guitars are insanely good for the price. The built quality is fantastic and the fretboard plays like butter. You'll be very happy with it.
Bonus is you'll get acoustic and electric tones out of it
Can you really get "acoustic" tones out of this? My understanding is that piezos, soundboard transducers and actual mics are intended for that... At least, they are for standard acoustics. I can get acoustic sounds out of my PRS SE Hollowbody II Piezo but that's only because it has a Piezo pickup.
The Hilotrons on this are humbucker, so unless I'm missing something it doesn't seem like this is intended to replicate any sort of acoustic tone unless you wanted to mic up the F-holes?
Last edited by jplee3 December 30, 2023 at 10:09 PM.
Can you really get "acoustic" tones out of this? My understanding is that piezos, soundboard transducers and actual mics are intended for that... At least, they are for standard acoustics. I can get acoustic sounds out of my PRS SE Hollowbody II Piezo but that's only because it has a Piezo pickup.
The Hilotrons on this are humbucker, so unless I'm missing something it doesn't seem like this is intended to replicate any sort of acoustic tone unless you wanted to mic up the F-holes?
They're hollow bodies. When I say acoustic, I mean you'll be able to play it without an amp and get decent sound out of it. Great for practicing or impromtu show-off sessions. Solid body guitars don't typically have much sound without an amp.
You should start learning on a good acoustic to build up your muscles and callouses and to master rhythm. Once you've got about six good months under your belt, I would wholeheartedly endorse current-generation Gretsch guitars as great first electrics, especially at these ongoing sales prices.
Two notes of caution:
1. As others have said, the Bigsby tremolo system is not for everyone. These newer ones function quite a lot better than older ones but you won't be dive-bombing or anything, and you have to get used to pulling the trem back to starting position instead of "fluttering" it like other trems.
2. Semi-hollow guitars create feedback under heavy overdrive much more easily than solid-body electrics do. That doesn't mean they can't do hard rock--it means it won't play as well with cheap pedals/amps that artificially add gobsmacking amounts of distortion. The trade-off is they just have a weightier sound period which is its own kind of "heavy" but is far more versatile.
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But if you like this one better - go for it. It's just a hobby after all.
I think they make a model of Bigsby that doesn't have a tension bar - I think the tension bar may play a pretty big role in the overall tuning stability though.
For the nut, I applied some mineral oil with a toothpick as per a friend's suggestion so that may have helped with the tuning stability as well.
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Bonus is you'll get acoustic and electric tones out of it
But if you like this one better - go for it. It's just a hobby after all.
Tuning issues usually pop up when the sping gets worn (that takes a long time) or there's a binding issue in the bridge or nut (some lube helps with that).
Bonus is you'll get acoustic and electric tones out of it
The Hilotrons on this are humbucker, so unless I'm missing something it doesn't seem like this is intended to replicate any sort of acoustic tone unless you wanted to mic up the F-holes?
The Hilotrons on this are humbucker, so unless I'm missing something it doesn't seem like this is intended to replicate any sort of acoustic tone unless you wanted to mic up the F-holes?
Two notes of caution:
1. As others have said, the Bigsby tremolo system is not for everyone. These newer ones function quite a lot better than older ones but you won't be dive-bombing or anything, and you have to get used to pulling the trem back to starting position instead of "fluttering" it like other trems.
2. Semi-hollow guitars create feedback under heavy overdrive much more easily than solid-body electrics do. That doesn't mean they can't do hard rock--it means it won't play as well with cheap pedals/amps that artificially add gobsmacking amounts of distortion. The trade-off is they just have a weightier sound period which is its own kind of "heavy" but is far more versatile.
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