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forum thread Posted by dmgdev • Dec 28, 2023

HPE ProLiant DL385 Gen10 Plus v2 $2824.61

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HPE ProLiant DL385 G10 Plus v2 2U Rack Server - 1 x AMD EPYC 7313 2.90 GHz - 32 GB RAM - 12Gb/s SAS Controller

A decent deal for anyone seriously looking for a powerful rackmount server, however, be prepared to spend considerable extra money on HPE extensions for PCIe risers, etc. eBay is your friend for these items; I've bought several add-ons for 1/4 of what HPE sells them for.

This machine is still being sold by HPE resellers for well over $4k-8k depending on the configuration. The Gen11 being sold now by HPE doesn't come with many of these add-ons in this CTO build. e.g. 10Gb network card

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HPE ProLiant DL385 G10 Plus v2 2U Rack Server - 1 x AMD EPYC 7313 2.90 GHz - 32 GB RAM - 12Gb/s SAS Controller

A decent deal for anyone seriously looking for a powerful rackmount server, however, be prepared to spend considerable extra money on HPE extensions for PCIe risers, etc. eBay is your friend for these items; I've bought several add-ons for 1/4 of what HPE sells them for.

This machine is still being sold by HPE resellers for well over $4k-8k depending on the configuration. The Gen11 being sold now by HPE doesn't come with many of these add-ons in this CTO build. e.g. 10Gb network card

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For $2,824.61 @ https://www.provantage.com/hpe-p5...PE98EN.htm

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Dec 28, 2023
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radagastmod
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Lot of capability per $... Anyone know how loud fans on this generation are? The 2U have always been quieter than 1U, but still sometimes pretty loud..
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I ended up buying this, but it's still being shipped. Depending on your configuration, HPE recommends you buy their performance fan kit - instead of the default fans provided. I looked up the fans which are manufactured by Sunon. They list around 67db, 16,500 RPM. So, very loud at max. I'm going to look at potentially modding this to use Noctua fans, but don't want to risk damage to dual Epyc 7313's. Will monitor the temps and do some testing
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Quote from dmgdev :
I ended up buying this, but it's still being shipped. Depending on your configuration, HPE recommends you buy their performance fan kit - instead of the default fans provided. I looked up the fans which are manufactured by Sunon. They list around 67db, 16,500 RPM. So, very loud at max. I'm going to look at potentially modding this to use Noctua fans, but don't want to risk damage to dual Epyc 7313's. Will monitor the temps and do some testing
so, sounds like not a good choice for a city apartment noise-wise unless willing to chance Epyc's thermals, correct?
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Also, I am a noob for the rack-mounted servers: Can this take regular 3.5" SATA HDDs? It kinda sounds like it's 2.5 only from the spec unless I am misunderstanding something.
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Quote from cheshirecat :
Also, I am a noob for the rack-mounted servers: Can this take regular 3.5" SATA HDDs? It kinda sounds like it's 2.5 only from the spec unless I am misunderstanding something.
You can add different drive cages.. should handle at least 12 3.5"
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Quote from cheshirecat :
Also, I am a noob for the rack-mounted servers: Can this take regular 3.5" SATA HDDs? It kinda sounds like it's 2.5 only from the spec unless I am misunderstanding something.
No, it comes with a SAS (Serial Attached SCSI) backplane and controller, so only SAS drives will work out of the box. Although I believe you can purchase SATA backplanes for it.

And this is small form factor (SFF), so only 2.5" drives. My experience is that you're better off with LFF (3.5" drive) models because the prices are cheaper. I have a DL380P G8 and I have been trying to upgrade my drives, but the prices for 2.5" drives are too much for me (especially with 16 drive bays).
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Quote from cheshirecat :
Also, I am a noob for the rack-mounted servers: Can this take regular 3.5" SATA HDDs? It kinda sounds like it's 2.5 only from the spec unless I am misunderstanding something.
You can use 3.5" SATA drives, but will need to buy kits to support them.
Here is HPE's QuickSpecs for this server:
HTML: https://www.hpe.com/psnow/doc/a50...p-psnow-qs
PDF: https://www.hpe.com/psnow/doc/a50...p-psnow-qs

Server: https://buy.hpe.com/us/en/compute...p55252-b21

This server comes with a default kit that supports SFF (2.5") SAS & SATA drives. The storage controller for this also supports NVMe drives as well (tri-mode: SAS, SATA, NVMe), but you need to buy kits for U.2 or U.3 drive support. The QuickSpecs are very dense and a must-read before purchasing. There is a lot to know what configurations are supported and what aren't.

I also just got the server delivered today. It's a beast!
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Quote from cheshirecat :
so, sounds like not a good choice for a city apartment noise-wise unless willing to chance Epyc's thermals, correct?
You're probably right, but I suppose it also just depends on your living situation. In my 20's I lived in an apartment in Orlando with a custom built 1U rackmount that was like having a jet engine in my closet. I wouldn't recommend it. Lived in NYC as well, but would've never had space for this kind of server.

I'm planning on buying a rackmount enclosure with sound proofing material. Should help negate some of the noise, and HPE provides thermal management to customize thresholds for fan performance. There are also people who have modded these to put Noctua fans in, but I'm hesitant to do this.
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Quote from dmgdev :

I also just got the server delivered today. It's a beast!
Have you tested it yet? How loud is it?
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Quote from cheshirecat :
Have you tested it yet? How loud is it?
I haven't yet. I was going to wait for all the other components to arrive. But I can power it up and record the noise if you'd like; I just don't have the HPE NS204i-p Boot Device or any hard drives installed yet.
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I am still running my R710, R510 and R210ii from the stone age.
They work so well with perpetural iDRAC access, manual fan speed control, etc.

The only thing that really sucks is as a NAS its fine for mass storage and even streaming 4K movies and stuff, but its slow with the older interface.
If I ever decide to build an all flash storage array I will need something new and better, and even running multiple drives in say Raiz Z2 on TrueNAS is a waist when it comes to the speed it could produce vs the bandwidth limitations.

I am not sure what the local next step is for me.

Something just as quiet, cheap to buy and run, but offering upgrades to make upgrading worth it.
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Quote from dmgdev :
I haven't yet. I was going to wait for all the other components to arrive. But I can power it up and record the noise if you'd like; I just don't have the HPE NS204i-p Boot Device or any hard drives installed yet.
Oh, no, I don't want you to trouble yourself on my account. I was just curious. Thank you for offering though. I hope you have fun with your new toy. Smilie
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Run 380's in a Data Center and these are NOT quiet.

But overall, descent servers. Drives fail often, but these are older models.

Bub

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Quote from cheshirecat :
Oh, no, I don't want you to trouble yourself on my account. I was just curious. Thank you for offering though. I hope you have fun with your new toy.
The NS204i-p actually came in the mail today so I added the card to the first riser PCIe slot and installed ESXi on it. I was going to use Proxmox, but wanted to get a bit of experience with the former first. Everything is working very smoothly out of the box, no complications other than the server doesn't come with an AC power cable - only an extension cable. lol Ran over to BestBuy to grab a couple.

I'll record a short video of the noise at various levels tomorrow. However, even at idle, this is not a machine you want sitting around your home office or living room. I'll definitely be looking at picking up a sound-proofed cabinet at some point. Fortunately, the apartment I'm currently living at has all the building fiber/ethernet terminals running into a guest room's walk-in closet that's away from everything and accessed only from a guest bathroom. Currently have all my UniFi rack gear sitting there.

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