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Brim 19 Bar Espresso Machine w/ Hot water Dispenser and Milk Frother

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$130

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Woot! has Brim 19 Bar Espresso Machine on sale for $129.99. Shipping is free for Amazon Prime Members (must login with your Amazon account and select a shipping address in order for Woot to apply free shipping) or is otherwise $6 per order.

Thanks to Community Member JollyCaption375 for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Stable high pressure Italian pump with gauge indicator & low pressure pre-infusion for balanced extraction.
  • Featuring a powerful thermal coil system (1250-watt) & commercial style 360 degree swivel action dry steam wand for café quality texturized microfoam, this machine also includes a hot water dispenser & heated die cast top plate to keep cups warm.
  • Includes:
    • Universal portafiller holder
    • 1 or 2 cup filters (pressurized & non-pressurized)
    • 120z stainless steel milk frothing pitcher
    • Filter cleaning tool
    • Metal tamper (with wood accents)
    • Measuring scoop

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Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this product:
    • 90 Day Woot Limited Warranty
    • 4.0 out of 5 stars rating at Amazon based on over 630 customer reviews
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  • Additional Note:
    • Please see original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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Woot! has Brim 19 Bar Espresso Machine on sale for $129.99. Shipping is free for Amazon Prime Members (must login with your Amazon account and select a shipping address in order for Woot to apply free shipping) or is otherwise $6 per order.

Thanks to Community Member JollyCaption375 for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Stable high pressure Italian pump with gauge indicator & low pressure pre-infusion for balanced extraction.
  • Featuring a powerful thermal coil system (1250-watt) & commercial style 360 degree swivel action dry steam wand for café quality texturized microfoam, this machine also includes a hot water dispenser & heated die cast top plate to keep cups warm.
  • Includes:
    • Universal portafiller holder
    • 1 or 2 cup filters (pressurized & non-pressurized)
    • 120z stainless steel milk frothing pitcher
    • Filter cleaning tool
    • Metal tamper (with wood accents)
    • Measuring scoop

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this product:
    • 90 Day Woot Limited Warranty
    • 4.0 out of 5 stars rating at Amazon based on over 630 customer reviews
  • About this store:
  • Additional Note:
    • Please see original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion.

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JMezzacappa
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This was my first espresso machine, and I ended up going down a deep coffee rabbit hole which turned into a very expensive hobby during the pandemic.

Going by memory here, so I may have forgotten some details...(EDIT TO ADD: If you just plan to make lattes and don't care about learning about espresso extraction, then you can probably ignore most of the information below and just use the pressurized filter basket with pre-ground coffee. IIRC, this machine can also handle E.S.E. pods.)
Pros:

Heats up quickly
Good steam wand
More consistent results than the lower-end espresso machines with a boiler tank (e.g. Gaggia Classic Pro ).
Good steam. For comparison, a Gaggia Classic Pro (a ~$400 machine) runs out of steam quite quickly without modifications or learning a "temperature surfing" technique.

Cons:

Very high pressure. 19 bar is a LOT, so it requires a bit more precision when dialing in dose and grind size.
The cup warmer doesn't really get that warm. I assume it's because this machine uses a thermocoil, not a boiler.
Good luck finding a bottomless portafilter that fits properly. Some people say they have found 51mm portafilters to work, but every one that I've tried did not seal well, and would leak around the edges. I suspect it might actually need a 52mm. It has been a few years since I searched for one, so there may be some options out there now. If a bottomless portafilter is important to you, you may want to search for one first.


Ultimately, $129.99 is a really great deal for this entry-level machine.

By the way, here's one thing I wish I knew before buying: Espresso requires a really good coffee grinder... Like $80 might get a very entry-level manual (not electric) grinder capable of doing espresso. I ended up getting a 1Zpresso JX-Pro, which I was pretty happy with.
edearauj
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Drinkable coffee is the product of water and coffee beans through various processes. What most Americans consider to be regular coffee is hot water dripped (relatively slowly) over (moderately) coarse ground coffee beans. In contrast, espresso is hot water forced through very finely ground beans. Espresso has a more concentrated and unique flavor than drip coffee.

While some people enjoy drinking this straight, many people temper it with milk, like with a latte.

One way to achieve a similar strength of drip using espresso as a base is the Americano. This is straight espresso watered down with hot water.
superjeer
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I don't have this particular machine but, usually, no - you cannot make regular drip coffee with an espresso machine.

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Dec 31, 2023 02:31 AM
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JMezzacappaDec 31, 2023 02:31 AM
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This was my first espresso machine, and I ended up going down a deep coffee rabbit hole which turned into a very expensive hobby during the pandemic.

Going by memory here, so I may have forgotten some details...
(EDIT TO ADD: If you just plan to make lattes and don't care about learning about espresso extraction, then you can probably ignore most of the information below and just use the pressurized filter basket with pre-ground coffee. IIRC, this machine can also handle E.S.E. pods.)
Pros:
  • Heats up quickly
  • Good steam wand
  • More consistent results than the lower-end espresso machines with a boiler tank (e.g. Gaggia Classic Pro [without modifications]).
  • Good steam. For comparison, a Gaggia Classic Pro (a ~$400 machine) runs out of steam quite quickly without modifications or learning a "temperature surfing" technique.
Cons:
  • Very high pressure. 19 bar is a LOT, so it requires a bit more precision when dialing in dose and grind size.
  • The cup warmer doesn't really get that warm. I assume it's because this machine uses a thermocoil, not a boiler.
  • Good luck finding a bottomless portafilter that fits properly. Some people say they have found 51mm portafilters to work, but every one that I've tried did not seal well, and would leak around the edges. I suspect it might actually need a 52mm. It has been a few years since I searched for one, so there may be some options out there now. If a bottomless portafilter is important to you, you may want to search for one first.

Ultimately, $129.99 is a really great deal for this entry-level machine.

By the way, here's one thing I wish I knew before buying: Espresso requires a really good coffee grinder... Like $80 might get a very entry-level manual (not electric) grinder capable of doing espresso. I ended up getting a 1Zpresso JX-Pro, which I was pretty happy with.
Last edited by JMezzacappa December 30, 2023 at 07:51 PM.
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Dec 31, 2023 02:34 AM
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edearaujDec 31, 2023 02:34 AM
239 Posts
Quote from AquaVest6601 :
Silly question but can I make regular coffee in this thing?
Drinkable coffee is the product of water and coffee beans through various processes. What most Americans consider to be regular coffee is hot water dripped (relatively slowly) over (moderately) coarse ground coffee beans. In contrast, espresso is hot water forced through very finely ground beans. Espresso has a more concentrated and unique flavor than drip coffee.

While some people enjoy drinking this straight, many people temper it with milk, like with a latte.

One way to achieve a similar strength of drip using espresso as a base is the Americano. This is straight espresso watered down with hot water.
Dec 31, 2023 02:36 AM
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SDSummerDayDec 31, 2023 02:36 AM
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Quote from aimo :
Why does it have two wands? Best Buy had the Bella version on sale a few days ago. They appear the same design.
one for hot water to heat up your cup.
I don't know about the Bella version, but the Breville version also has hot water dispenser, just not in the form of wand.

as for as thermo block goes, this is pretty much it. the extra you pay for name brand doesn't actually buys you much. As someone who owns lower end, mid range and high end espresso machine, the different espresso machine doesn't matter as much as proper grinder, right sized portafilter and beans. although thermoblock machines are actually the most difficult one to dial right.

the downside with thermoblock is that they don't have a reservoir of water at certain temperature. the water is pushed by the pump and go through two blocks of heat element. so the temperature of the water coming out of the machine is a function of water flow. if you didn't prepare your beans right and able to squeeze it out at the right flow... you water temperature will be either higher or lower than the preset value.
Dec 31, 2023 05:56 AM
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Vitaliy-theGDec 31, 2023 05:56 AM
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Quote from AquaVest6601 :
Silly question but can I make regular coffee in this thing?
If your talking black coffee, than the closest think you can make is an Americano which I prefer over just black coffee.
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Dec 31, 2023 05:58 AM
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amir_pradovxDec 31, 2023 05:58 AM
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I had this for 9 months. It is a very decent machine and does what it is promising. But I felt like the quality of extraction dropped toward the end of ownership (I sold it eventually on FB market)
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Dec 31, 2023 01:17 PM
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hajimowDec 31, 2023 01:17 PM
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Quote from AquaVest6601 :
Silly question but can I make regular coffee in this thing?
Make an espresso and then add water. You will make an Americano which is basically a regular coffee
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Dec 31, 2023 01:53 PM
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EricH4550Dec 31, 2023 01:53 PM
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Quote from aimo :
Why does it have two wands? Best Buy had the Bella version on sale a few days ago. They appear the same design.
Steam for milk and hot water

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Dec 31, 2023 03:37 PM
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KachurDec 31, 2023 03:37 PM
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This is just as much these machine should cost. Anything higher is for snobs.
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Dec 31, 2023 03:39 PM
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KachurDec 31, 2023 03:39 PM
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Quote from amir_pradovx :
I had this for 9 months. It is a very decent machine and does what it is promising. But I felt like the quality of extraction dropped toward the end of ownership (I sold it eventually on FB market)
Must use fresh ground coffee from the fresh beans.
Dec 31, 2023 04:22 PM
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SiennaHeat6816Dec 31, 2023 04:22 PM
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Quote from AquaVest6601 :
Silly question but can I make regular coffee in this thing?
No you can't
Dec 31, 2023 05:06 PM
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SuperBaratoDec 31, 2023 05:06 PM
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I've used this for 3 years. Just replaced last week. Main problem I had is a little rubber gasket in the steam wand melted and is impossible to find a replacement. Tried some options on eBay but don't fit quite well and still has some pressure loss for steam wand. Contacted BRIm but they don't offer service parts so only option was to buy a new machine.

Used 2+ times per day for 3 years. Reliable pump , never a problem.

I moved to a breville bambino. Smaller footprint and same functionality.
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Dec 31, 2023 05:14 PM
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tasmanianDec 31, 2023 05:14 PM
450 Posts
Quote from AquaVest6601 :
Silly question but can I make regular coffee in this thing?
This machine will taste better than any drip coffee even If you just used store ground coffee and milk without frothing. Eg put coffee in, hit button, get a cup of water espresso coffee. It's like an Americano.

If you like coffee, you should get one
Dec 31, 2023 05:26 PM
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aimoDec 31, 2023 05:26 PM
362 Posts
Quote from SuperBarato :
I've used this for 3 years. Just replaced last week. Main problem I had is a little rubber gasket in the steam wand melted and is impossible to find a replacement. Tried some options on eBay but don't fit quite well and still has some pressure loss for steam wand. Contacted BRIm but they don't offer service parts so only option was to buy a new machine.

Used 2+ times per day for 3 years. Reliable pump , never a problem.

I moved to a breville bambino. Smaller footprint and same functionality.
I like your review 👍
Do you know if Bambino offers any parts for replacement?
Dec 31, 2023 06:19 PM
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KREWfitDec 31, 2023 06:19 PM
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Quote from JMezzacappa :
This was my first espresso machine, and I ended up going down a deep coffee rabbit hole which turned into a very expensive hobby during the pandemic.

Going by memory here, so I may have forgotten some details...
(EDIT TO ADD: If you just plan to make lattes and don't care about learning about espresso extraction, then you can probably ignore most of the information below and just use the pressurized filter basket with pre-ground coffee. IIRC, this machine can also handle E.S.E. pods.)
Pros:
  • Heats up quickly
  • Good steam wand
  • More consistent results than the lower-end espresso machines with a boiler tank (e.g. Gaggia Classic Pro [without modifications]).
  • Good steam. For comparison, a Gaggia Classic Pro (a ~$400 machine) runs out of steam quite quickly without modifications or learning a "temperature surfing" technique.
Cons:
  • Very high pressure. 19 bar is a LOT, so it requires a bit more precision when dialing in dose and grind size.
  • The cup warmer doesn't really get that warm. I assume it's because this machine uses a thermocoil, not a boiler.
  • Good luck finding a bottomless portafilter that fits properly. Some people say they have found 51mm portafilters to work, but every one that I've tried did not seal well, and would leak around the edges. I suspect it might actually need a 52mm. It has been a few years since I searched for one, so there may be some options out there now. If a bottomless portafilter is important to you, you may want to search for one first.

Ultimately, $129.99 is a really great deal for this entry-level machine.

By the way, here's one thing I wish I knew before buying: Espresso requires a really good coffee grinder... Like $80 might get a very entry-level manual (not electric) grinder capable of doing espresso. I ended up getting a 1Zpresso JX-Pro, which I was pretty happy with.
May be a dumb question but this machine doesn't grind the beans?

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Dec 31, 2023 06:30 PM
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danryan23Dec 31, 2023 06:30 PM
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I bought my wife an open box Solis Perfetta plus (I think it was like $200) but a machine like this looks good for the price for sure. Don't expect a $150 machine to perform like a $1000+ machine (I have a lelit bianca) but if you are doing things like lattes I'm sure something like this can brew decent espresso.

As said before the Grinder is more important than the machine. There are grinders you can find for $200 or less capable of espresso (like a Turin SK40 for example - I got one open box for like $129 or something that I use for drip coffee but it can do espresso, for my bianca I use a DF83) but if you are using a cheap grinder, most won't grind finely or consistently enough for espresso and you will end up with low pressure shots that run quickly and your espresso will be sour. Once you go down the rabbit hole you will find out how much different grinders and different burrs within the Grinder will effect the flavor and texture. Just don't go too cheap on the Grinder especially.

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