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Acer Office Desktop TC-1780-UA93 Intel i5-13400 16GB DDR4 1TB Gen4 NVMe SSD WiFi6E 2XHDMI Windows 11 Home 64 Bit 2 Year Warranty $499.99

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Costco has the New Acer Office Desktop TC-1780-UA93 Intel i5-13400 16GB DDR4 1TB Gen4 NVMe SSD WiFi6E 2XHDMI Windows 11 Home 64 Bit 2 Year Warranty for $499.99 after $150 Instant Savings. Shipping is $14.99.

2nd Year Warranty
Free Technical Support
90 Day Return Policy

Processor & Memory:
13th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-13400 (10-Core) Processor
16GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM
Drives:
1TB PCIe M.2 2280 Gen 4 Solid State Drive
No Optical Drive
Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows 11 Home (64 bit)
Graphics & Video:
Integrated Intel® 730 UHD Graphics
Communications:
10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN
Intel® Wi-Fi 6E (2x2/160) Gig+ and Bluetooth® 5.3
Audio:
High-Def Audio with 5.1-Channel Surround Sound Support
Keyboard & Mouse:
USB Wired Keyboard and Wired Optical Mouse
Ports & Slots:
4x USB 2.0
1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C
2x USB 3.2 Gen 1
1x HDMI 1.4b
1x HDMI 2.0
5x Audio Ports
1x RJ-45 Port
Power Supply:
300W
Additional Information:
Dimensions: 6.42"W x 13.78"L x 13.39"H


https://www.costco.com/acer-aspir...17573.html
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Costco has the New Acer Office Desktop TC-1780-UA93 Intel i5-13400 16GB DDR4 1TB Gen4 NVMe SSD WiFi6E 2XHDMI Windows 11 Home 64 Bit 2 Year Warranty for $499.99 after $150 Instant Savings. Shipping is $14.99.

2nd Year Warranty
Free Technical Support
90 Day Return Policy

Processor & Memory:
13th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-13400 (10-Core) Processor
16GB DDR4 3200MHz RAM
Drives:
1TB PCIe M.2 2280 Gen 4 Solid State Drive
No Optical Drive
Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows 11 Home (64 bit)
Graphics & Video:
Integrated Intel® 730 UHD Graphics
Communications:
10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN
Intel® Wi-Fi 6E (2x2/160) Gig+ and Bluetooth® 5.3
Audio:
High-Def Audio with 5.1-Channel Surround Sound Support
Keyboard & Mouse:
USB Wired Keyboard and Wired Optical Mouse
Ports & Slots:
4x USB 2.0
1x USB 3.2 Gen 1 Type-C
2x USB 3.2 Gen 1
1x HDMI 1.4b
1x HDMI 2.0
5x Audio Ports
1x RJ-45 Port
Power Supply:
300W
Additional Information:
Dimensions: 6.42"W x 13.78"L x 13.39"H


https://www.costco.com/acer-aspir...17573.html

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Awesome deal on a productivity PC.

In prior years / CPU generations, we saw i5-based desktops in lower $400 range. But those would typically have less RAM and a smaller SSD. Considering the 16GB RAM / 1TB SSD config here, this may be the best budget and/or productivity oriented configuration in the past 6 months+ (going by memory here).
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Quote from deelseaker :
Awesome deal on a productivity PC.

In prior years / CPU generations, we saw i5-based desktops in lower $400 range. But those would typically have less RAM and a smaller SSD. Considering the 16GB RAM / 1TB SSD config here, this may be the best budget and/or productivity oriented configuration in the past 6 months+ (going by memory here).
Thanks for commenting. I thought I'd post this as one of the better deals currently available on a new non-gaming desktop for home or office. If it had DDR5 it would be in hot deal territory for sure.
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Quote from BabyBubba :
If it had DDR5 it would be in hot deal territory for sure.
I don't think it matters. You buy it because the 16GB of RAM is already sufficient for you. Or because you are going to upgrade it right away. So DDR5 would do nothing as far as future-proofing. And DDR4 is thus not limiting.

Plus, I am suspecting that this has only two RAM slots (I couldn't find definitive info). So it's best for those who are happy with the 16GB (which - let's be realistic - is not little). Otherwise you'd be throwing this RAM away (unless you have a use for it elsewhere - in which case you are probably better off with DDR4 anyway). Big Grin
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Quote from deelseaker :
I don't think it matters. You buy it because the 16GB of RAM is already sufficient for you. Or because you are going to upgrade it right away. So DDR5 would do nothing as far as future-proofing. And DDR4 is thus not limiting.

Plus, I am suspecting that this has only two RAM slots (I couldn't find definitive info). So it's best for those who are happy with the 16GB (which - let's be realistic - is not little). Otherwise you'd be throwing this RAM away (unless you have a use for it elsewhere - in which case you are probably better off with DDR4 anyway).
Fair enough; 3200MHz DDR4 is quite capable. I was referring to the higher cost of outfitting a desktop with DDR5 at the factory, and the more current motherboard spec that goes along with that offering more perceived value. I believe the newest iterations have a better onboard graphics package as well (Intel UHD 760 or 770 as I recall). In this price range though, you can't have it all. You could easily spend double and get only a small increase in performance with the newer hardware. DDR4 machines seem to be where the best overall values are at the moment.
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bobfatherxJan 09, 2024 03:58 PM
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This is a good deal because the 13400 is a very efficient, fairly fast processor. For example, it's faster in gaming and productivity while also more power efficient than a Ryzen 5600x, which for a long time was a gaming speed and power efficiency leader. It's also a good deal because its for the regular, non-F version of the 13400, which comes with integrated graphics.
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can you put an old graphics card and run some games?
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For those with budget constraints or extra RAM/SSDs laying around, Acer Recertified has the slightly lower tier TC-1770-UR11 (factory refurb, like new condition with Acer warranty) on Amazon right now for $408.49 after 5% off promo. Has same CPU, 8GB of DDR4 3200, 512GB NVMe, and WiFi6.

https://www.amazon.com/acer-TC-17...41&sr=8-16

With this CPU still fetching $250+ new, it looks like a compelling value and not likely one you could build for less money spent.
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Quote from wacked :
can you put an old graphics card and run some games?
Short answer is no, the PSU is too puny. So you'd have to swap in a better PSU, assuming compatibility with the motherboard/chassis (I'm not familiar with Acer pre-builts, but should be possible).
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gamefan98Jan 09, 2024 09:23 PM
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Quote from wacked :
can you put an old graphics card and run some games?
The simple answer is NO
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Quote from deelseaker :
Awesome deal on a productivity PC.

In prior years / CPU generations, we saw i5-based desktops in lower $400 range. But those would typically have less RAM and a smaller SSD. Considering the 16GB RAM / 1TB SSD config here, this may be the best budget and/or productivity oriented configuration in the past 6 months+ (going by memory here).
I threw a $408 version in the mix, in your honor, linked here and on a separate listing. I mean who doesn't like a $400 high performance desktop?
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Quote from wacked :
can you put an old graphics card and run some games?
Yes you can. As long as you use a low power card that won't tax the 300w power supply. A single fan1650 would be a good choice. Keep in mind these cases have very poor airflow with no room for intake fans and are only capable of adding one exhaust fan to the back. The side panel is partial mesh design and I've seen some people rig an intake fan to it, but it's far from ideal.

For occasional gaming, this would probably work out fine. If you want to game regularly, look towards more of a gaming pc.
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I threw a $408 version in the mix, in your honor, linked here and on a separate listing. I mean who doesn't like a $400 high performance desktop?
You are making me blush. Big Grin
Good option for someone who is price sensitive. If I were in the market, I'd still get this one for the extra RAM, the bigger SSD and the Costco warranty.
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dodgerblue123Jan 09, 2024 10:42 PM
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Might be in for one to use as a home business PC. Looking mainly for 16 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD and the right price. Thanks, OP.
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Quote from _jenn :
Short answer is no, the PSU is too puny. So you'd have to swap in a better PSU, assuming compatibility with the motherboard/chassis (I'm not familiar with Acer pre-builts, but should be possible).
1030/1650 yes since they can draw power from the PCIE slot
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A very low power graphics card (like the 30W GT 1030) is an easy to recommend option for anyone being cautious/conservative; you could find slightly more powerful cards that get towards the upper limit of the 75W supported via PCIe (without external power), but consider that the included, relatively proprietary power supply is only rated for 300W and the CPU alone could draw over 100W in peak usage (the max TDP is 148W).

This system provides a reasonable value but the trade-off is the incorporation of relatively custom components in the form of an OEM motherboard and power supply.

This power supply is a 12 Volt Only style model. That style distinction is significant since although OEMs have started implementing their own versions of ATX 12VO for cost-savings as well as to meet certain efficiency requirements, what is being sold in OEM systems isn't really standardized in the retail space. So if the power supply needs replacement (outside of warranty) or upgrading, this challenge alone will create some issues well beyond a simple drive to Micro Center.

On top of that, the motherboard also integrates the front panel connections such as the USB sockets directly onto the motherboard. Though typical for many OEM systems such as those from HP, this also complicates replacement of the motherboard and/or case.

As such, this recommends at least three possible approaches:
  1. Operate this system as a sealed box with limited to power-neutral upgrades for its lifetime (so only swapping in CPUs or GPUs which are supported within the existing power budget). This works for a large group of users and represents the target audience of this kind of pre-built.
  2. Be the kind of DIY-er who cuts into power supply wires, uses custom power supply wire harnesses, or runs dual power supplies in a PC as part of their GPU upgrade (nothing unimaginable, but definitely a niche group).
  3. Ignore this kind of highly custom OEM system in favor of a PC which utilizes standardized motherboards and power supplies.
Good luck!
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