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expiredpur | Staff posted Jan 25, 2024 08:28 PM
expiredpur | Staff posted Jan 25, 2024 08:28 PM

20TB Seagate Exos X22 Enterprise 3.5" 7200 RPM Hard Drive (Recertified)

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Server Part Deals via eBay has 20TB Seagate Exos X22 3.5" 7200RPM Internal SATA Enterprise Hard Drive (Recertified) on sale for $196. Shipping is free.

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About this Item:
  • 20TB Capacity
  • 7200 RPM Spindle Speed
  • 3.5" Form Factor
  • Max. Sustained Transfer Rate OD (MB/s, MiB/s): 285/272
  • Random Read/Write 4K QD16 WCD (IOPS): 168/550
  • Rotation Vibration @ 20-1500 Hz (rad/sec²): 12.5

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  • Comes with a 1-year warranty from Allstate.
  • This price is $14 lower than a previous Frontpage Deal.
  • Server Part Deals via eBay offers free 30 day returns.

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Server Part Deals via eBay has 20TB Seagate Exos X22 3.5" 7200RPM Internal SATA Enterprise Hard Drive (Recertified) on sale for $196. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Moderator pur for finding this deal.

About this Item:
  • 20TB Capacity
  • 7200 RPM Spindle Speed
  • 3.5" Form Factor
  • Max. Sustained Transfer Rate OD (MB/s, MiB/s): 285/272
  • Random Read/Write 4K QD16 WCD (IOPS): 168/550
  • Rotation Vibration @ 20-1500 Hz (rad/sec²): 12.5

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake
  • Comes with a 1-year warranty from Allstate.
  • This price is $14 lower than a previous Frontpage Deal.
  • Server Part Deals via eBay offers free 30 day returns.

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Written by pur | Staff

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StefanoM3235
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The X22 came out In 2022 so... I doubt it
KingCoop
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Good deal, only thing I would note is that by purchasing through eBay it appears to only have a 1-year seller warranty vs 2-years if purchased directly from sellers website (priced slightly higher). Thanks OP!
audiophan
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Website doesn't charge tax for most states, eBay does. Usually why I buy from their website.

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Jan 26, 2024 04:16 AM
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LateDependentJan 26, 2024 04:16 AM
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Quote from StefanoM3235 :
The seller is pretty active on Reddit and lots of people on there seem to trust them.

Re: wiping SMART, apparently they don't but occasionally the manufacturer does.
either way, yes to redundancy but I doubt they would offer a two year warranty on potentially flawed products.
Do you have link to their reddit profile? Do they do hardwareswap style trades?
Jan 26, 2024 04:33 AM
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Lethal-LasersJan 26, 2024 04:33 AM
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Do you think this is a good purchase to just put in a desktop for media/video editing storage? Earlier in the thread someone mentioned these aren't that old, so I'm not too worried about it failing. Anything really important is backed up on other drives. Is there some unforeseen reason these should only be in a raid server vs desktop?
Jan 26, 2024 04:38 AM
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StefanoM3235Jan 26, 2024 04:38 AM
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Quote from LateDependent :
Do you have link to their reddit profile? Do they do hardwareswap style trades?
https://www.reddit.com/u/ServerPa...j9jTeXK56P
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superstealsJan 26, 2024 05:34 AM
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Quote from StefanoM3235 :
why is that?
Mainly because of the rebuild times. In raid 5 if you have 4 disks of 20TB, your usable capacity is 60TB and 1 disk (20TB) is used for parity. You can tolerate 1 drive failure, and when you add the spare drive, the Raid 5 will rebuild from parity.
Considering it's 60tb and rebuild is a very slow process (it does not go at the max write speed of the drive) it can take days, even weeks for the drive to rebuild - because it is recalculating all the parity, keeping track of ongoing changes, rebuilding the new changes, balancing the data across drives etc… so if the rebuild runs for a week, and you get another drive failure, or a read error in any of the drives (keep in mind these are refurb so there is a small change of this) your entire raid 5 is lost… good luck with recovery…
Raid 6 or raid z2 is more dependable if you must, as it can tolerate 2 drive failure, but will slow things down - if this is for home use it wouldn't matter a whole lot.
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Jan 26, 2024 08:29 AM
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CarlosonoJan 26, 2024 08:29 AM
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Quote from heiNey :
Are Seagate drives better than they used to be? I have like 20 dead Seagate drives over the past 25 years and only a couple dead WD, Hitachi, Toshiba. Haven't bought any drives in the past 3 years so I'm out of touch now and need to start buying again.
same here. Seagate not trusted for priceless data 😆
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lastwraithJan 26, 2024 09:05 AM
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Quote from Lethal-Lasers :
Do you think this is a good purchase to just put in a desktop for media/video editing storage? Earlier in the thread someone mentioned these aren't that old, so I'm not too worried about it failing. Anything really important is backed up on other drives. Is there some unforeseen reason these should only be in a raid server vs desktop?
Absolutely no reason you can't chuck these in a desktop sans RAID, it just happens that many people buying drives this big are hosting large arrays for media servers, VM storage, backup, etc.
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turbodogJan 26, 2024 01:59 PM
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Quote from heiNey :
Are Seagate drives better than they used to be? I have like 20 dead Seagate drives over the past 25 years and only a couple dead WD, Hitachi, Toshiba. Haven't bought any drives in the past 3 years so I'm out of touch now and need to start buying again.
There were a bunch of bandwagoner anti-WD, pro-Seagate clowns posting after the SMR fiasco, but IMHO the best commonly available drives are the WD Red pro / white label shucks.
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Jan 26, 2024 03:39 PM
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reroreroJan 26, 2024 03:39 PM
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Pardon me if this has been asked before but how does one refurbish a hard drive anyway? I am just wondering how this is different from used condition.
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StefanoM3235Jan 26, 2024 03:44 PM
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Quote from LateDependent :
They started charging tax in CA, and also Texas
Also NY and Jersey
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DaSoulJan 26, 2024 03:58 PM
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Quote from Galileo28 :
Those Manufacturer/Reseller Recertified = We've verified that this item has been inspected, tested, and cleaned by a qualified seller. Sounds really bogus too me.
I bought 10 of these in the last deal and they are for sure refurbished by Seagate. Inspected and tested sure. Cleaned might be we blew off the outside of the hard drive with air lol.
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MerryCrown7505Jan 26, 2024 04:02 PM
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does seagate still have the highest year-over-year failure rate of any manufacturer?
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BlueHalibut359Jan 26, 2024 04:08 PM
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Backblaze publishes quarterly drive reliability reports. While they do not use any Exos 20 TB drives, they have reported significantly higher than average failure rates on their 14 TB Exos drives (~6% vs. all-drive average of ~1.5%).

**NOTE: While poor reliability on one storage tier does not mean poor reliability on another, it does give me pause.**

Personally, I'd buy direct through Server Part Deals as opposed to through their eBay store front. For an extra $13 (a little more than three cents a day), you're getting an extra year of warranty coverage—seems like a no-brainer.
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cj0rJan 26, 2024 04:17 PM
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So all this talk about "this manufacturer is better or this one is crap"... How about you armchair athletes provide some actual data beyond your limited "out of the 4 total drives I've had over 15 years, 2 failures were from this manufacturer?"

Here's Backblaze's collection of drive data where they have actual sample sizes large enough to learn from (spoiler, for actual large sample sizes, the failure rate is 1-3%> no matter which manufacturer you have so it's just a roll of the dice if you have bad luck):
https://www.backblaze.com/cloud-s...-test-data

If you're filling drives with multiple terabytes of important content, you need to be using some form of redundancy and following the 321 method of backup. If you're just storing replaceable media, then screw it, get the cheapest $/tb deal you can as long as it has some form of warranty so you can get your money's worth.
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