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10 14 January 25, 2024 at 02:46 PM in Finance
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Are there any financial institutions that don't require the social security number of a persons beneficiary's? I want to add a friend as the beneficiary but don't want them to know and well as they would be leery very as to why I need their SSN. I just opened a CD at an institution and they require I get the SSN. Fidelity doesn't at least for IRA accounts.
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maddog55
01-25-2024 at 04:31 PM.
01-25-2024 at 04:31 PM.
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Are there any financial institutions that don't require the social security number of a persons beneficiary's? I want to add a friend as the beneficiary but don't want them to know and well as they would be leery very as to why I need their SSN. I just opened a CD at an institution and they require I get the SSN. Fidelity doesn't at least for IRA accounts.
The answer is yes but I cannot remember which ones. I went through this with my parents accounts at Wells Fargo, Fidelity, Vanguard, and Gabelli. Had to add a family member but didn't have their SSN so I just entered their name on the form. Not saying this is good because it might be difficult for the financial institution to find the beneficiary for a payout without a SSN.

Before others chime in, have you considered the long term idea of having a friend as a beneficiary? Friends come and go over the years. Yes, there are exceptions but many people select a beneficiary and never update the names as time goes by.

I now remember Fidelity as one who would not allow the change in IRA accounts. My folks had a trust set up but never followed their lawyers instructions to retitle assets in the name of the trust. Now five years later with my dad having died and my mother in a nursing home with dementia, I've been trying to do this. Fidelity would not let me change either the name of the owner or the beneficiary despite me having power of attorney and also being sole trustee.

Wells Fargo, on the other hand, had initial problems but finally relented. I went to their office and filled out the forms. Took a few weeks as their lawyers and other staff reviewed the documentation that I supplied.

What I learned through 18 months of similar experiences is that each company has its own rules. Ditto for banks, S&Ls, etc.
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YanksIn2009
01-25-2024 at 07:07 PM.
01-25-2024 at 07:07 PM.
As mentioned already, probably not the best way to do it, but maybe the easiest for the time being. You can setup a trust with instructions on it as well as put it in your will and the trustee and executor would be legally bound to follow those instructions. Obviously a more costly way to go as well since you likely would have to go through an estate lawyer and maybe an accountant as well depending on the complexity of the trust and your state and local laws.


My 2 cents.
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Wally01
01-26-2024 at 07:50 AM.
01-26-2024 at 07:50 AM.
Thanks for the reply maddog55. I use Fidelity for my other accounts and the beneficiaries SSN's are optional. I don't know about the outers but now will check first.

I hear you about using friends as beneficiary's. These are friends from over 30 years ago and I thought I'd put them on as it is only for a 14 month CD in case something happens to me. I'll move the funds elsewhere when the term expires.

I know what you mean about going thru the troubles with different institutions. It took me years after I assumed the executorship from my mom, dad and brother when they passed to finally complete the distributions from the brokerage and insurance companies and to close their trusts. My parents also had property that cost me twice what it was worth in legal fees to sell. I thought about just abandoning it but didn't want it to possibly haunt me years later.
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Wally01
01-26-2024 at 08:08 AM.
01-26-2024 at 08:08 AM.
Thanks for the reply Yanksln209. Yeah, I need to setup a trust for myself and my other assets. I know it will be expensive but needed. I want to add beneficiaries to my CD's since they are limited in term and can be changed easily if necessary. I remember my dad paying thousands every time he made a change to his trust and would use the trust for more permanent estate planning.
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Markwin25
02-23-2024 at 11:50 AM.
02-23-2024 at 11:50 AM.
Chase bank does not require a social security number when you set up a beneficiary.
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