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AYN Loki Max 512GB/16GB 6800U Windows Gaming Handheld $499

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One gen older than Z1 Extreme, but has USB 4.0 for eGPU support over Ally. Still 8-core CPU/12-Core GPU. Still a very capable handheld.

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One gen older than Z1 Extreme, but has USB 4.0 for eGPU support over Ally. Still 8-core CPU/12-Core GPU. Still a very capable handheld.

https://www.ayntec.com/products/l...x-preorder

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Feb 08, 2024 04:13 PM
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vfxraven19Feb 08, 2024 04:13 PM
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the USB 4.0 support has my attention. I own the Steam Deck and ROG Ally - I have (2) eGPU docks and I am tempted to get one of these.
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Feb 08, 2024 11:00 PM
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TinyTimslickFeb 08, 2024 11:00 PM
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Quote from vfxraven19 :
the USB 4.0 support has my attention. I own the Steam Deck and ROG Ally - I have (2) eGPU docks and I am tempted to get one of these.
just curious, why would you need 3 of what is basically the same device? I can understand having something like this to compliment a gaming desktop, but even that feels a bit excessive to me... just curious if there is a use case I'm unaware of
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Feb 08, 2024 11:06 PM
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geesevsFeb 08, 2024 11:06 PM
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Quote from TinyTimslick :
just curious, why would you need 3 of what is basically the same device? I can understand having something like this to compliment a gaming desktop, but even that feels a bit excessive to me... just curious if there is a use case I'm unaware of
I'm guess because they run different OS? OLED steam deck is perfect unless you HAVE to run windows.
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Feb 09, 2024 12:19 AM
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fewlioFeb 09, 2024 12:19 AM
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how do the specs, cpu and gpu, compare to steamdeck? for a customer buying a pc or open platform machine for the first time, what's the best choice these days? I think the lenovo looks good but it's a bit of a budget buster, my switch oled is my favorite handheld of all time so have been leaning towards steam deck oled. feel free to chime in with some advice, thx
Feb 09, 2024 12:31 AM
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TinyTimslickFeb 09, 2024 12:31 AM
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Quote from fewlio :
how do the specs, cpu and gpu, compare to steamdeck? for a customer buying a pc or open platform machine for the first time, what's the best choice these days? I think the lenovo looks good but it's a bit of a budget buster, my switch oled is my favorite handheld of all time so have been leaning towards steam deck oled. feel free to chime in with some advice, thx
Steam deck seems like the least janky with the most support
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Feb 09, 2024 04:15 AM
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Quote from fewlio :
how do the specs, cpu and gpu, compare to steamdeck? for a customer buying a pc or open platform machine for the first time, what's the best choice these days? I think the lenovo looks good but it's a bit of a budget buster, my switch oled is my favorite handheld of all time so have been leaning towards steam deck oled. feel free to chime in with some advice, thx
My favorite portable was the switch before I got my steam deck OLED, just got the 512gb model, and will upgrade it down the road. But the OLED deck has been really good to me, great battery life, it definitely gets a lot brighter than the switch screen 1000nits vs 400 I Believe, so even at half brightness is still slightly brighter. It is heavier, but still comfortable to hold. The buttons and grips are much better than joycons or even the hori split pad controllers.

Note the heaviest title I played on it was horizon down zero, but it played well, I have a desktop I play most GPU intensive games on.
Feb 09, 2024 06:08 AM
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vfxraven19Feb 09, 2024 06:08 AM
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Quote from TinyTimslick :
just curious, why would you need 3 of what is basically the same device? I can understand having something like this to compliment a gaming desktop, but even that feels a bit excessive to me... just curious if there is a use case I'm unaware of
Yes it's excessive, but I like tinkering around with tech Big Grin - Steam Deck has the greatest support community, but ROG Ally has full Windows support (can run all game platforms w/o needing custom plugins, tweaks, etc). Plus ROG Ally (at least the Z1 Extreme variant) is more powerful than that of the Steam Deck in regards to CPU/GPU (Steam Deck: Zen2 APU 4-core/8thread/RDNA2 GPU 8CU VS Ally Z1 Extreme: Zen 4 APU 8-core/16-thread/RDNA3 GPU 12CU aka Radeon 780m).

The AYN Loki Max has Zen3+ with the 6800U (8-core/16thread) and a Radeon 680M (12CU), so this fits between the Steam Deck and ROG Ally Z1 Extreme. An eGPU dock would need to be able to provide power delivery 65w+ since the Loki only has 1 USB4v1 port.

These can be docked as Windows PC, so eventually my son with get one of these for his Minecraft/Lego Worlds/Roblox, etc.
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Feb 09, 2024 04:09 PM
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PooperscooperFeb 09, 2024 04:09 PM
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Is this device better than the ROG Ally Z1 (not extreme) ?

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Quote from vfxraven19 :
Yes it's excessive, but I like tinkering around with tech Big Grin - Steam Deck has the greatest support community, but ROG Ally has full Windows support (can run all game platforms w/o needing custom plugins, tweaks, etc). Plus ROG Ally (at least the Z1 Extreme variant) is more powerful than that of the Steam Deck in regards to CPU/GPU (Steam Deck: Zen2 APU 4-core/8thread/RDNA2 GPU 8CU VS Ally Z1 Extreme: Zen 4 APU 8-core/16-thread/RDNA3 GPU 12CU aka Radeon 780m).

The AYN Loki Max has Zen3+ with the 6800U (8-core/16thread) and a Radeon 680M (12CU), so this fits between the Steam Deck and ROG Ally Z1 Extreme. An eGPU dock would need to be able to provide power delivery 65w+ since the Loki only has 1 USB4v1 port.

These can be docked as Windows PC, so eventually my son with get one of these for his Minecraft/Lego Worlds/Roblox, etc.
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Feb 09, 2024 05:14 PM
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vfxraven19Feb 09, 2024 05:14 PM
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Feb 09, 2024 05:23 PM
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vfxraven19Feb 09, 2024 05:23 PM
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Quote from Pooperscooper :
Is this device better than the ROG Ally Z1 (not extreme) ?

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Depends. Z1 is newer chip/tech, but cut down specs. By theory, it *should be* better than Loki Max (spec and tech wise), but the Loki Max might might pull further away from the Z1 non-extreme (ROG Ally) because it's got 4 more cores, bigger cache, and 8 more compute units. That's kind of how I see it. There's a review floating around LTT comparing the ROG Ally units (both Z1 Extreme and Z1) and they should the Z1's cut down specs hurt FPS because of the reduced horsepower. From the chip specs, this (Loki Max, 6800U/Radeon 680m) is a bump up from the Steam Deck's specs. I ordered one, since AYN is on Lunar New Year break, it won't be processed until after February 17th or so.
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oakraiders510Feb 09, 2024 05:29 PM
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Quote from TinyTimslick :
just curious, why would you need 3 of what is basically the same device? I can understand having something like this to compliment a gaming desktop, but even that feels a bit excessive to me... just curious if there is a use case I'm unaware of
Consumerism. Alot of "slickdealers" need like 4 or 5 of the same item.
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Feb 09, 2024 05:30 PM
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BrooklynDodgerFeb 09, 2024 05:30 PM
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I'll wait for these 6800u handhelds to drop to $200. I'll just use it to play indies and emulation.
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TinyTimslickFeb 09, 2024 07:54 PM
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Quote from oakraiders510 :
Consumerism. Alot of "slickdealers" need like 4 or 5 of the same item.
Eh, if it's his hobby and his kiddos play games I understand that. I like cars, and car hobbyists tend to be incredibly excessive. Different strokes.

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Feb 09, 2024 09:50 PM
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oakraiders510Feb 09, 2024 09:50 PM
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Quote from TinyTimslick :
Eh, if it's his hobby and his kiddos play games I understand that. I like cars, and car hobbyists tend to be incredibly excessive. Different strokes.
Meh, excessive is the key term. Whatever floats your boat. I like cars but I don't need 3 of them. Costs money to maintain, register, gas, insure it.
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