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expired Posted by BeigeRoad455 • Feb 11, 2024
Feb 11, 2024 2:24 AM
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D + Gigabyte B650 X AX Mobo + G.Skill 32GB DDR5-6000
+ Free Store Pickup$500
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This bundle is best suited for those building an upper-midrange gaming computer which will not be used for tasks more cpu demanding than gaming. Those who don't require absolute top tier gaming performance would be best served finding a deal with a cheaper processor, namely the $400 7700x microcenter bundle. Those who require a cpu with strong multithreaded performance for non-gaming productivity workloads (photo/video editing, code compiling, cpu based 3d rendering, etc.) would be best served by purchasing a dual chiplet amd cpu (ryzen 7900 or up) or an intel cpu (which have significantly higher multithreaded performance towards the lower end of their product stack compared to single chiplet amd cpus) according to their needs. Those whose use cases involve video encoding/transcoding would be best served purchasing an intel cpu with an integrated gpu to make use of intel quicksync.
The 7800x3d is the best gaming cpu currently available, it's on average slightly faster than the 14900k in gaming while using on average 130w less power (total system usage) while gaming. The 7800x3d is an 8 core zen4 cpu on the current gen am5 platform, and will be sufficient for high end gaming for the next several years at least. It is not well suited as a productivity cpu, it's essentially a slower clocked and more efficient 7700x when used in most non-gaming tasks. The 7800x3d goes on sale as low as $340 from online retailers and as low as $300 from microcenter.
Hardware unboxed comparing the 7800x3d to the 14900k in gaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KZQVfO-1Vg
Gamers nexus review of the 7800x3d including productivity benchmarks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B31PwSp
Techspot review for 14th gen intel cpus, all the charts include the 7800x3d for comparison: https://www.techspot.co
The motherboard in this bundle is a lower midrange (leaning more towards midrange) full size atx b650 chipset am5 motherboard. This board has: the low (but not lowest) end b650 chipset, a 8+2+2 60A vrm, three pcie x16 slots (1x gen4 x16 primary slot, 2x gen3 x1), three m.2 slots (1x gen5 x4, 2x gen 4 x4), 4 sata ports, Realtek® 2.5GbE LAN, wifi 6e + bluetooth 5.2 or 5.3 (depending on board revision either Realtek® Wi-Fi 6E RTL8852CE or AMD Wi-Fi 6E RZ616 (MT7922A22M)), a competent assortment of usb including usb-c 3.2 gen2, and bios flashback. While it has many of the compromises you'd expect from cheaper boards (6 layer pcb, cheap realtek audio chip, no pcie gen 5 x16 slot, somewhat limited io, etc), it's overall rather competent and should be more than sufficient for the vast majority of users. The lack of a pcie gen 5 x16 slot will be meaningless (excluding a few very niche applications) for a few years at least. While not necessarily a great board for extreme overclocking, it's likely overkill for a pure gaming rig. One of the primary advantage of building a computer on the am5 platform is that it will have a meaningful upgrade path. At the absolute minimum, next gen amd zen 5 cpus will be on the am5 platform (and very likely zen6 as well), which means you'll be able to slot in a one or two generation newer cpu without needing to replace your motherboard. This is obviously a major cost savings.
Here's the motherboard's official specs page: https://www.gigabyte.co
And here's the manual: https://download.gigaby
The ram in this bundle is a marked improvement over the ram included in previous bundles. While the better cas latency (cl32 instead of cl36) shouldn't cause a major difference in performance under standard use, this ram kit uses hynix memory chips instead of samsung memory chips. Hynix memory chips are superior in just about every way, and all high end ddr5 kits (6000 cl32 and better) exclusively use hynix chips. The am5 platform has had compatibility issues with samsung based memory in the past, while those issues have been mostly fixed in bios updates hynix memory has been significantly more stable on am5 since day one. The primary advantage of hynix memory kits is that they have far superior overclocking potential. If you're willing to manually overclock/tune your memory you can achieve an absolutely massive increase in performance compared to a similarly tuned samsung memory kit. Even if you don't intend to overclock or tune your ram beyond stock expo settings, this ram will be slightly faster and likely more stable than the ram included in previous bundles.
Overall, if you're looking to build a computer primarily for gaming in the near future, and desire absolute top tier gaming performance, this bundle is a good deal.
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I say get it.
Edit: I have the CL36 version of the RAM. That works so far with no issues.
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The 7800x3d is the best gaming cpu currently available, it's on average slightly faster than the 14900k in gaming while using on average 130w less power (total system usage) while gaming. The 7800x3d is an 8 core zen4 cpu on the current gen am5 platform, and will be sufficient for high end gaming for the next several years at least. It is not well suited as a productivity cpu, it's essentially a slower clocked and more efficient 7700x when used in most non-gaming tasks. The 7800x3d goes on sale as low as $340 from online retailers and as low as $300 from microcenter.
Hardware unboxed comparing the 7800x3d to the 14900k in gaming: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KZQVfO-1Vg
Gamers nexus review of the 7800x3d including productivity benchmarks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B31PwSp
Techspot review for 14th gen intel cpus, all the charts include the 7800x3d for comparison: https://www.techspot.co
The motherboard in this bundle is a lower midrange (leaning more towards midrange) full size atx b650 chipset am5 motherboard. This board has: the low (but not lowest) end b650 chipset, a 8+2+2 60A vrm, three pcie x16 slots (1x gen4 x16 primary slot, 2x gen3 x1), three m.2 slots (1x gen5 x4, 2x gen 4 x4), 4 sata ports, Realtek® 2.5GbE LAN, wifi 6e + bluetooth 5.2 or 5.3 (depending on board revision either Realtek® Wi-Fi 6E RTL8852CE or AMD Wi-Fi 6E RZ616 (MT7922A22M)), a competent assortment of usb including usb-c 3.2 gen2, and bios flashback. While it has many of the compromises you'd expect from cheaper boards (6 layer pcb, cheap realtek audio chip, no pcie gen 5 x16 slot, somewhat limited io, etc), it's overall rather competent and should be more than sufficient for the vast majority of users. The lack of a pcie gen 5 x16 slot will be meaningless (excluding a few very niche applications) for a few years at least. While not necessarily a great board for extreme overclocking, it's likely overkill for a pure gaming rig. One of the primary advantage of building a computer on the am5 platform is that it will have a meaningful upgrade path. At the absolute minimum, next gen amd zen 5 cpus will be on the am5 platform (and very likely zen6 as well), which means you'll be able to slot in a one or two generation newer cpu without needing to replace your motherboard. This is obviously a major cost savings.
Here's the motherboard's official specs page: https://www.gigabyte.co
And here's the manual: https://download.gigaby
The ram in this bundle is a marked improvement over the ram included in previous bundles. While the better cas latency (cl32 instead of cl36) shouldn't cause a major difference in performance under standard use, this ram kit uses hynix memory chips instead of samsung memory chips. Hynix memory chips are superior in just about every way, and all high end ddr5 kits (6000 cl32 and better) exclusively use hynix chips. The am5 platform has had compatibility issues with samsung based memory in the past, while those issues have been mostly fixed in bios updates hynix memory has been significantly more stable on am5 since day one. The primary advantage of hynix memory kits is that they have far superior overclocking potential. If you're willing to manually overclock/tune your memory you can achieve an absolutely massive increase in performance compared to a similarly tuned samsung memory kit. Even if you don't intend to overclock or tune your ram beyond stock expo settings, this ram will be slightly faster and likely more stable than the ram included in previous bundles.
Overall, if you're looking to build a computer primarily for gaming in the near future, and desire absolute top tier gaming performance, this bundle is a good deal.
The only way to even get near this price/performance is from microcenter bundles.
I was planning on building with the 7600 and it would have been close to $500 if not more without these microcenter bundles. New egg has essentially copied some of these deals, but microcenter is the only reason why they exist on newegg and then you have to deal with Newegg.
I will state that I put my build together yesterday and either have a dead Mobo, power supply, or potentially an issue with the front panel wire in my case. Haven't narrowed it down yet, and don't want to crap on the Mobo in this deal without knowing for sure that's what it is. However, I do know the previous MSI bundle had lots of returns due to DOA motherboards
edit: It looks like the RAM is different than the same priced bundle I did on Jan 18th:
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Also, the mobo is a Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX V2 vs. Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX. What's the difference?
I wonder if it's worth exchanging.
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Would the 7900X or higher CPUs be better than it for this niche? Yes.
Is this one niche that Intel is better at? Yes.
Also, your review link doesn't even appear to mention the 7800x3d.
If you zoom out a bit, the 7800x3d is still one of the best CPUs in human circulation, even for this niche use case where other CPUs are a little better than it. And the 7800x3d is remarkably better than other CPUs at gaming, especially when you factor in its energy efficiency to the equation. Do not buy Intel if you care about power efficiency, they are atrocious.
To me, if I am doing productivity, I am on a top spec'd Macbook Pro ARM machine. This is where the industry is now, not just me. For desktop, gaming is the primary domain imo.
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