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02-23-2024 at 07:20 PM.
Great to see the retail price of these ARM-based Windows devices getting closer to the intended competition (primarily low-cost chromebooks, or at least cheaper than comparable x86 devices). However, this should probably be treated as a curiosity akin to the Surface RT more than the average daily driver for someone's grandmother/kid. You'll read about amazing notes about battery life... but how well this performs for you as a Windows PC can vary significantly based upon your needs.
Great to see the retail price of these ARM-based Windows devices getting closer to the intended competition (primarily low-cost chromebooks, or at least cheaper than comparable x86 devices). However, this should probably be treated as a curiosity akin to the Surface RT more than the average daily driver for someone's grandmother/kid. You'll read about amazing notes about battery life... but how well this performs for you as a Windows PC can vary significantly based upon your needs.
The lack of touch screen and double knuckle hinge puts it in competition with the lowest tier Chromebooks, which is not where the MSRP expects it to be.
This is a perfect daily driver for someone familiar with Windows but not in need of anything outside the core wheelhouse of software.
It can handle light browsing, Office 365, YouTube, and some extremely lightweight gaming (Minecraft or SteamLink, for instance).
What it can't do is run Android apps in tablet mode, unlike many Chromebooks that retail for this sale price.
It's not a fast chip and it's running typical software through emulation, so it'll be a terrible experience. I think, the only way around that is exclusively using Windows Store software, which is impossible since that marketplace is a bad joke.
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02-24-2024 at 08:24 AM.
Even with Linux as the OS, some programs aren't available for ARM CPUs. Beware.
This would probably be fine with a ChromeOS clone, assuming one exists that supports the hardware. I didn't look.
There have been $80 cheap laptops from Lenovo that had x86-64 CPUs, but the wifi chip drivers took about a year before it was built-into the Linux kernel. Arm-based laptops aren't nearly as popular, so it would likely take longer for any unsupported chips to become supported.
You've been warned.
Every time I've researched ARM-based laptops, some very important software that I needed wasn't ported to that CPU, so I passed. I've been looking since 2012. In the last year, I did see that 1 of my "must have" software was ported to ARM. Now I just need the remaining 4 before I could consider it.
And for the non-nerds, the type of CPU architecture in the computer matters. Programs created for x86-64 work natively on those platforms only. The only way to get them to work on another CPU platform is through an emulation layer. If the CPU is really fast, like an Apple M2, then it might not matter. This CPU isn't an M2 by any measure.
Even with Linux as the OS, some programs aren't available for ARM CPUs. Beware.
This would probably be fine with a ChromeOS clone, assuming one exists that supports the hardware. I didn't look.
There have been $80 cheap laptops from Lenovo that had x86-64 CPUs, but the wifi chip drivers took about a year before it was built-into the Linux kernel. Arm-based laptops aren't nearly as popular, so it would likely take longer for any unsupported chips to become supported.
You've been warned.
Every time I've researched ARM-based laptops, some very important software that I needed wasn't ported to that CPU, so I passed. I've been looking since 2012. In the last year, I did see that 1 of my "must have" software was ported to ARM. Now I just need the remaining 4 before I could consider it.
And for the non-nerds, the type of CPU architecture in the computer matters. Programs created for x86-64 work natively on those platforms only. The only way to get them to work on another CPU platform is through an emulation layer. If the CPU is really fast, like an Apple M2, then it might not matter. This CPU isn't an M2 by any measure.
If it's just one must have application, couldn't you build from source?
Even with Linux as the OS, some programs aren't available for ARM CPUs. Beware.
This would probably be fine with a ChromeOS clone, assuming one exists that supports the hardware. I didn't look.
There have been $80 cheap laptops from Lenovo that had x86-64 CPUs, but the wifi chip drivers took about a year before it was built-into the Linux kernel. Arm-based laptops aren't nearly as popular, so it would likely take longer for any unsupported chips to become supported.
You've been warned.
Every time I've researched ARM-based laptops, some very important software that I needed wasn't ported to that CPU, so I passed. I've been looking since 2012. In the last year, I did see that 1 of my "must have" software was ported to ARM. Now I just need the remaining 4 before I could consider it.
And for the non-nerds, the type of CPU architecture in the computer matters. Programs created for x86-64 work natively on those platforms only. The only way to get them to work on another CPU platform is through an emulation layer. If the CPU is really fast, like an Apple M2, then it might not matter. This CPU isn't an M2 by any measure.
These programs you were referring to, no source and/or libraries available for ARM?
The Pi is fully ARM compatible on linux and runs most of the apps natively.
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If anything, it's the inverse of what you said.
The lack of touch screen and double knuckle hinge puts it in competition with the lowest tier Chromebooks, which is not where the MSRP expects it to be.
This is a perfect daily driver for someone familiar with Windows but not in need of anything outside the core wheelhouse of software.
It can handle light browsing, Office 365, YouTube, and some extremely lightweight gaming (Minecraft or SteamLink, for instance).
What it can't do is run Android apps in tablet mode, unlike many Chromebooks that retail for this sale price.
Anything is compatible with Linux. You just need the right distro!
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It's not a fast chip and it's running typical software through emulation, so it'll be a terrible experience. I think, the only way around that is exclusively using Windows Store software, which is impossible since that marketplace is a bad joke.
Haven't tried it myself.
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This would probably be fine with a ChromeOS clone, assuming one exists that supports the hardware. I didn't look.
There have been $80 cheap laptops from Lenovo that had x86-64 CPUs, but the wifi chip drivers took about a year before it was built-into the Linux kernel. Arm-based laptops aren't nearly as popular, so it would likely take longer for any unsupported chips to become supported.
You've been warned.
Every time I've researched ARM-based laptops, some very important software that I needed wasn't ported to that CPU, so I passed. I've been looking since 2012. In the last year, I did see that 1 of my "must have" software was ported to ARM. Now I just need the remaining 4 before I could consider it.
And for the non-nerds, the type of CPU architecture in the computer matters. Programs created for x86-64 work natively on those platforms only. The only way to get them to work on another CPU platform is through an emulation layer. If the CPU is really fast, like an Apple M2, then it might not matter. This CPU isn't an M2 by any measure.
This would probably be fine with a ChromeOS clone, assuming one exists that supports the hardware. I didn't look.
There have been $80 cheap laptops from Lenovo that had x86-64 CPUs, but the wifi chip drivers took about a year before it was built-into the Linux kernel. Arm-based laptops aren't nearly as popular, so it would likely take longer for any unsupported chips to become supported.
You've been warned.
Every time I've researched ARM-based laptops, some very important software that I needed wasn't ported to that CPU, so I passed. I've been looking since 2012. In the last year, I did see that 1 of my "must have" software was ported to ARM. Now I just need the remaining 4 before I could consider it.
And for the non-nerds, the type of CPU architecture in the computer matters. Programs created for x86-64 work natively on those platforms only. The only way to get them to work on another CPU platform is through an emulation layer. If the CPU is really fast, like an Apple M2, then it might not matter. This CPU isn't an M2 by any measure.
This would probably be fine with a ChromeOS clone, assuming one exists that supports the hardware. I didn't look.
There have been $80 cheap laptops from Lenovo that had x86-64 CPUs, but the wifi chip drivers took about a year before it was built-into the Linux kernel. Arm-based laptops aren't nearly as popular, so it would likely take longer for any unsupported chips to become supported.
You've been warned.
Every time I've researched ARM-based laptops, some very important software that I needed wasn't ported to that CPU, so I passed. I've been looking since 2012. In the last year, I did see that 1 of my "must have" software was ported to ARM. Now I just need the remaining 4 before I could consider it.
And for the non-nerds, the type of CPU architecture in the computer matters. Programs created for x86-64 work natively on those platforms only. The only way to get them to work on another CPU platform is through an emulation layer. If the CPU is really fast, like an Apple M2, then it might not matter. This CPU isn't an M2 by any measure.
The Pi is fully ARM compatible on linux and runs most of the apps natively.
Avoid if you run your own apps
Screen at 250 nits is horrible