expiredforenzo posted Feb 23, 2024 06:09 PM
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expiredforenzo posted Feb 23, 2024 06:09 PM
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The main reason the i3 and i5 exist is due to yield. In many fabs, all the processors start out at the highest tier and the ones that don't qualify to be an "i7" get cut down to produce the i5 or i3. The alternative to this is simply throw them away.
A 14th Gen i3 has roughly as much processing power as a 10th Gen i7, while using less power and having more features. At the same time, a 14th Gen i5 gives 13th Gen i7s a run for their money.
Name one other product where the model that costs almost four times less begins to outclass the upper tier model in a span of four years, if ever.
Your analogy doesn't work, simply because none of these models are old. They all exist in the same generation, with the same architectural features and the "chassis" (in this case, the motherboard) is compatible with every single model.
By your analogy, it would be equivalent to being able to take the engine and drivetrain off a Lexus, swap it into a Corolla, and still end up with a Lexus at the end of it.
The i5 is perfectly adequate for most games, especially when they're console ports that are mostly GPU bound.
Different processors serve different segments and there's a ton of overlap which I guarantee you would not care about if it weren't for benchmarks.
Saying the i7 should be the baseline just means Intel would have to put out an i11 to top the i9 that already exists.
Wait, you know about the i9, right?
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I realize that it has newer and better components, just wonder thoughts on if it's worth the extra $140 spend for a gaming rig for my 10 year old
I'm thinking it is worth it, especially since it's new vs Refurb.....but now I need to figure out how to get without a Costco membership...I heard that you can buy a gift card online and then use it even if you don't have a membership....anyone know if that works?
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Overall saying "I have a i5" is like saying "I have a Honda" or even Honda Civic. Do you have a Honda lawn mower or a 1987 Honda Civic or 2027 nitro-boosted VTEC with flux capacitor?
-What gen i5 vs i7?
-What model?
-There are many types of i3/i5/i7's within the laptop realm. Ultra low power, full power, many steps in between. And none of those are tend to be directly comparable to a desktop CPU which has just as much gray area even in the same generation. Much of the confusion is with Intel's clear as mode nomenclature.
-From generation to generation there can be (not always) huge jumps in performance. For example a gen 13 i5 can out perform a gen 12 i7. Heck and you could have bought them in the same year.
-stepping up CPU's tends to favor those who multitask (or run multithreaded apps) the most. If you are only gaming, an i5 vs an i7 (within the same gen) is not likely to make a measurable difference if you have enough GPU. Most games are not taxing multiple cores nor are most games CPU intensive.
TDLR version: It depends.
The i5 is perfectly adequate for most games, especially when they're console ports that are mostly GPU bound.
Different processors serve different segments and there's a ton of overlap which I guarantee you would not care about if it weren't for benchmarks.
Saying the i7 should be the baseline just means Intel would have to put out an i11 to top the i9 that already exists.
Wait, you know about the i9, right?
Overall saying "I have a i5" is like saying "I have a Honda" or even Honda Civic. Do you have a Honda lawn mower or a 1987 Honda Civic or 2027 nitro-boosted VTEC with flux capacitor?
-What gen i5 vs i7?
-What model?
-There are many types of i3/i5/i7's within the laptop realm. Ultra low power, full power, many steps in between. And none of those are tend to be directly comparable to a desktop CPU which has just as much gray area even in the same generation. Much of the confusion is with Intel's clear as mode nomenclature.
-From generation to generation there can be (not always) huge jumps in performance. For example a gen 13 i5 can out perform a gen 12 i7. Heck and you could have bought them in the same year.
-stepping up CPU's tends to favor those who multitask (or run multithreaded apps) the most. If you are only gaming, an i5 vs an i7 (within the same gen) is not likely to make a measurable difference if you have enough GPU. Most games are not taxing multiple cores nor are most games CPU intensive.
TDLR version: It depends.
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I know a lot of people will hate this suggestion but I love the CPU benchmarking sites. None of the comparisons are real world or perfectly fair but they give you a pretty good idea of which processor is better. For example google i7-1355u (current gen ultra lower power laptop CPU) vs i5-13400F (talso current gen full power desktop CPU). Both are current gen CPU's but the i5 blows away the i7.
https://cpu.userbenchma
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