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H&R Block 2023 Deluxe + State Tax (PC/Mac Digital) + $20 eGC (Select Stores)

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drawz
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This is a good deal for sure, and the download version of H&R Block/TurboTax are more powerful than their online counterparts. Comparison of H&R Block/TurboTax download to online. [thefinancebuff.com] Five federal e-files are included in the package, and you can print/mail many more. One common point of confusion - the state software included here is only the software to prepare the taxes, but does not include state e-file. That's an additional $20 or you can print/mail it for almost nothing (also see below).

One major advantage of H&R Block & TurboTax is that they support importing 1099 forms from banks and brokerages. While this is definitely useful and can save some time, you often have to enter your passwords in their software, which some people are not comfortable with. With 1099 investment income, you can often enter aggregate data [hrblock.com] and not list each trade individually, which makes this much less painful that you might think.

However, there are also free or low cost options that don't require you to share your information and do support the common investor forms. Tax prep companies are required by law to get your consent before they can share your personal information with 3rd parties.

FreeTaxUSA [freetaxusa.com]and OnLineTaxes [olt.com] are 100% free federal, regardless of income, and $10-15 per state if your AGI is > $45k. Both do not share your personal information with 3rd parties and both support nearly all tax forms.

Cash App Taxes [cash.app] is 100% free federal and state, regardless of income. Their privacy policy [cash.app] is less explicit, but I don't think they share your information with 3rd parties. There are more scenarios that they don't support [cash.app], the biggest being multi-state taxes. But they do support [cash.app] most of what most people need, including investments, rentals, self-employment, etc.

H&R Block and TurboTax online DO sell your personal information with your consent...but you can opt-out. See here [washingtonpost.com] for more details. Their free versions are quite limited and they also use deceptive marketing practices to try to upsell you to more expensive products.

New this year is IRS Direct File [irs.gov], where you can file your taxes directly with the IRS. This is a pilot of their new online software that uses the typical interview process to generate your tax forms. The pilot is limited to 13 states and only supports limited tax scenarios. They will likely expand the functionality in the future.

Last, but not least is IRS Free Fillable Forms [irs.gov]. This is free for anyone and supports all forms, but is not interview-based software. This is basically an electronic version of the old paper forms.

Bonus: some states allow you to e-file for free directly on their department of revenue website. You either have to transcribe the numbers from your software of choice into their system, or just use their system in the first place. Quality of this software varies by state. List of states that support this [thefinancebuff.com].

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Feb 28, 2024 03:29 AM
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cheaposaleFeb 28, 2024 03:29 AM
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Quote from appu142 :
Trading deluxe + state - 4 left for $10 AGC. Thanks
Can it be used by me (1 fed+ 1 state) and my son (1 fed + 2 states) to efile? I understand there is a cost to efile each state but will the code allow us to download our states?
Feb 28, 2024 04:11 AM
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arl16Feb 28, 2024 04:11 AM
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Quote from Old-School :
Both Deluxe and Premium will handle rentals.
Doesn't seem like Deluxe can handle rentals based on their website (https://www.hrblock.com/online-tax-filing/ )..
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Feb 28, 2024 04:59 AM
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Feb 28, 2024 04:59 AM
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Quote from arl16 :
Doesn't seem like Deluxe can handle rentals based on their website (https://www.hrblock.com/online-tax-filing/ )..
If you use their online program, you will need Premium for rentals. However, if you buy the download version, all forms are included in Deluxe. Ignore their website attempt to rip you off.
Feb 28, 2024 05:27 AM
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jg1993Feb 28, 2024 05:27 AM
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That's why I asked. Sorry not the same state. I can't use it.
This isn't accurate. You can skip the activation screen and enter the activation code in the File section. Think about it - how would the software know a state was downloaded already if there are no local files or activation code to reference? Installing the provided program on a new computer is the same as buying the software and installing it. Same exact file.

The issue you're describing would be encountered if you tried creating a second return (for a second free state program) on the same computer (people that try to get around buying add-on programs for multi-state returns). This issue is resolved by installing the software on two different devices.
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Feb 28, 2024 05:37 AM
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AustinM8565Feb 28, 2024 05:37 AM
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Can anyone tell me why this program is trying to make me pay 20 bucks to file the state part of the taxes?
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Feb 28, 2024 06:04 AM
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Feb 28, 2024 06:04 AM
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Quote from AustinM8565 :
Can anyone tell me why this program is trying to make me pay 20 bucks to file the state part of the taxes?
All of them including H&R Block and Turbotax charge you a fee for State efile except in New York. You can print and mail your State returns to avoid State efile fee.

Alternatively, you can check with your State to see if they provide a website where you can file electronically for free.
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Dh3256Feb 28, 2024 02:09 PM
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Quote from beggerking :
Download is exactly the same security (https) as online version and data goes to the same database anyways....

This is a good software I used it to file my tax for years. EV rebate section supposedly be ready on March 1st for those who purchased an EV last year
That is not correct. In the online version, the data is on their servers and system, in the download version the data is ONLY on your local computer.

When you efile with the download version, the software connects directly to IRS servers, H&R Block never receives your data.

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Feb 28, 2024 05:38 PM
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beggerkingFeb 28, 2024 05:38 PM
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Quote from Dh3256 :
That is not correct. In the online version, the data is on their servers and system, in the download version the data is ONLY on your local computer.

When you efile with the download version, the software connects directly to IRS servers, H&R Block never receives your data.
Not sure about paper file... Havn't done it in 20+ years...don't know anyone who still paper files and send return manually with certified mail anymore...

On the other hand, if you efile, the data goes through HR Block first, then to IRS. thats how it knows and notifies you if IRS received/accepts the return or not. I don't understand why people are so afraid of https when its much more secure than most things they do daily online...
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drawzFeb 28, 2024 06:12 PM
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Quote from Dh3256 :
That is not correct. In the online version, the data is on their servers and system, in the download version the data is ONLY on your local computer.

When you efile with the download version, the software connects directly to IRS servers, H&R Block never receives your data.
This isn't exactly the same as e-filing, but as an experiment I loaded up my 2021 return in H&R Block download and asked for an e-file status update while watching the connections on my router. It only connected to H&R Block servers and not to the IRS at all. Someone should try this when actually submitting a return to see if the behavior is the same.
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drawzFeb 28, 2024 06:14 PM
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Quote from beggerking :
Not sure about paper file... Havn't done it in 20+ years...don't know anyone who still paper files and send return manually with certified mail anymore...

On the other hand, if you efile, the data goes through HR Block first, then to IRS. thats how it knows and notifies you if IRS received/accepts the return or not. I don't understand why people are so afraid of https when its much more secure than most things they do daily online...
It's not the security of the transmission that people worry about. It's having your data sit on a server in the cloud awaiting a potential data breach. Has this happened before? Not that I can find. But it is a real possibility. What is also unclear is whether Block stores this data after the return is filed. Several posts online say they keep it for a year, but I can't find anything definitive either way.
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ChrisBobsonFeb 28, 2024 07:05 PM
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I'd have to agree with the community wiki and try free tax usa instead. There were 3 forms H&R block wanted to charge me for. Tried free tax usa instead and it was free to file those forms.
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beggerkingFeb 28, 2024 07:15 PM
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Quote from drawz :
It's not the security of the transmission that people worry about. It's having your data sit on a server in the cloud awaiting a potential data breach. Has this happened before? Not that I can find. But it is a real possibility. What is also unclear is whether Block stores this data after the return is filed. Several posts online say they keep it for a year, but I can't find anything definitive either way.
well it has to sit on a server somewhere... either on your own computer, IRS server, or HR block server... IMO, the most unsecure server of these 3 places is actually the user's own computer.
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drawzFeb 28, 2024 07:38 PM
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Quote from beggerking :
well it has to sit on a server somewhere... either on your own computer, IRS server, or HR block server... IMO, the most unsecure server of these 3 places is actually the user's own computer.
Depends on the user! I don't trust my parents with their online passwords (or falling for a scam), so they are better off local only. On the other hand, someone walking around with an unencrypted laptop - or worse, a flash drive with their files on it - might be more at risk with local data.
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arl16Feb 28, 2024 08:59 PM
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Quote from Old-School :
If you use their online program, you will need Premium for rentals. However, if you buy the download version, all forms are included in Deluxe. Ignore their website attempt to rip you off.
Interesting... what about small business / ic business expenses. Are those forms are included in Deluxe download version?

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SouthPawNdFeb 28, 2024 09:04 PM
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Thinking of switching to this next year. Turbotax pissing me off with requiring an Intuit account just to activate. I should be able to import my ttax file into this SW easily?

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