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Then you know Pinarello is a well regarded maker!
If that's the case maybe showing people example(s) where one can spend a lot less for less weight would be helpful?
Don't know about anyone else but boat anchor paints a pretty awful picture!
I love bike deal discussions. I don't know anything about bikes so I end up getting a lot of previously unknown information. Also, next to oil threads (and a recent thread about SS flasks which turned way more contentious than than it should have) these threads produce some of the most interesting discussions.
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I raced juniors, collegiate, and after with several friends going to Europe to be pros. My life has mostly been surrounded by cycling so I'm not coming to this saying 19lbs awful. I'm saying spending $3300 for 19lbs is excessive when you can spend a lot less for less weight. And weight does matter in certain situations.
Would also love to know where I can spend a lot less for a sub 20 lb bike.
Is 105 so good it ends up on $3250 bikes? I know I'm old, but it used to be low end bikes.
I'm old too, but even years ago 105 was a mid-tier. Back in the day it was Dura-Ace, Ultegra, 105, Tiagra and then Sora (in descending order). I have had a Cannondale Six Carbon Six with a 105 drivetrain for twelve years, and never felt the need to upgrade. I did upgrade the brakes from Tektro to a set of Dura-Ace I got used, and that was a night and day difference.
I raced juniors, collegiate, and after with several friends going to Europe to be pros. My life has mostly been surrounded by cycling so I'm not coming to this saying 19lbs awful. I'm saying spending $3300 for 19lbs is excessive when you can spend a lot less for less weight. And weight does matter in certain situations.
I was looking for something lighter at or around the same price. I couldn't find anything decent in the past 2 months. What I like about this bike:
1. Carbon fiber be it a lower grade.
2. Internal cable routing
3. Electrical shifter. I would prefer the SRAM.
4. Hydraulic disc breaks.
5. Less than 20lbs
6. Below $4,000
I would love to have carbon wheels, but nothing in this price range with the above requirements. Closes is the Cervelo Caledonia Rival AXS w/ Carbon wheels. However, that doesn't have internal cable routing and a bit heavier for $4000.
I would appreciate it if you have any recommendation. I can still cancel my order.
Would also love to know where I can spend a lot less for a sub 20 lb bike.
You can't. Not with this quality of frame anyway. The majority of the weight that matters on a bike comes from parts that rotate, meaning: wheels, tires, cassettes, and rotors. Frame design matters, to an extent, because of power transfer. So let's assume two similarly designed racing bikes, with tires and rider power held constant, a 20lb bike with 1300g (2.8lbs) wheels is gonna climb faster than a 13lb bike with 2200g (4.8lbs) wheels. The lesson of the story is, find a bike you like, with a reasonable groupset, and then invest on wheels and tires. A Pinarello bike like this, paired with light weight Reserve or Zipp or ENVE wheels, for under $5000 total, is a very acceptable deal in the realm of expensive performance road bikes.
And if anyone cares that much about overall weight, I'd recommend a diet consisting of water and rabbit food.
I was looking for something lighter at or around the same price. I couldn't find anything decent in the past 2 months. What I like about this bike:
1. Carbon fiber be it a lower grade.
2. Internal cable routing
3. Electrical shifter. I would prefer the SRAM.
4. Hydraulic disc breaks.
5. Less than 20lbs
6. Below $4,000
I would love to have carbon wheels, but nothing in this price range with the above requirements. Closes is the Cervelo Caledonia Rival AXS w/ Carbon wheels. However, that doesn't have internal cable routing and a bit heavier for $4000.
I would appreciate it if you have any recommendation. I can still cancel my order.
Thank you.
This is a good deal for the frame and groupset you're getting. Save money for a pair of carbon wheels and faster rolling tires. If you're on a budget, Hunt Wheels are a good place to start. ENVE and Reserve also offer entry level wheels now in the sub $1200 space.
In reading through this thread so far, it is NOT disappointing. 😂. Bike people have so many differing opinions and takes on technologies and what is best. Again, I don't know crap from Shinola about bikes and after reading these bike threads, I know enough to stay far away from offering any opinion about bikes when around bike people. 😝 I could ride a $500 bike and a $5000 bike and not be able to tell them apart.
I bet you'd be able to tell right away. I come from a long haitus from any type of cycling, so seeing new carbon bikes with 105 going for $3250 on sale blows my mind.
Is 105 so good it ends up on $3250 bikes? I know I'm old, but it used to be low end bikes.
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Is 105 so good it ends up on $3250 bikes? I know I'm old, but it used to be low end bikes.
All my research shows that the 105 mechanical version are on a lot of $2K-$3K bikes. The Di2 (electrical shifter) are on $4K to $6K bikes.This is the lowest price bike with the 105 Di2 group I have seen. Like another poster stated, this is around $1700 (retail?). Average on-line price is around $1100.
In reading through this thread so far, it is NOT disappointing. 😂. Bike people have so many differing opinions and takes on technologies and what is best. Again, I don't know crap from Shinola about bikes and after reading these bike threads, I know enough to stay far away from offering any opinion about bikes when around bike people. 😝 I could ride a $500 bike and a $5000 bike and not be able to tell them apart.
You'd be surprised how much even a $1500 bike with mechanical 105 group sets is a way different experience than entry-level road bikes.
Bike people have so many differing opinions and takes on technologies and what is best.
Not really. Almost everyone in this thread is in the same page, except that one guy who used to race years ago and doesn't know what an electronic drivetrain is worth. And I guess that one weirdo whining about disc brakes (which are objectively much better at stopping in the rain, regardless of your "technique").
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I could ride a $500 bike and a $5000 bike and not be able to tell them apart.
I guarantee this is not true. Anyone can tell the difference between electronic shifting and mechanical. It might not be worth the cost to you, but it's very obvious.
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Disc brakes are ridiculous on a light weight road bike that will see only pavement. Unless (possibly) you ride mainly when it's raining, lol.
Unless you have *ever* gotten caught in the rain, you mean. I live in the desert but a 65 mile ride means the weather is not predictable, and not having disc brakes is a literal safety hazard.
I would expect it to come partially assembled in a shipping carton. After assembly, you might want to take it to a good bike mechanic to have it checked over - wheels trued, etc.
It's electronic shifting with hydraulic brakes. Yeah sure the wheels may be a bit wobbly. But most of the stuff is plug and play. Your danger would be over screwing the bolts to where you crack the carbon
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If that's the case maybe showing people example(s) where one can spend a lot less for less weight would be helpful?
Don't know about anyone else but boat anchor paints a pretty awful picture!
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1. Carbon fiber be it a lower grade.
2. Internal cable routing
3. Electrical shifter. I would prefer the SRAM.
4. Hydraulic disc breaks.
5. Less than 20lbs
6. Below $4,000
I would love to have carbon wheels, but nothing in this price range with the above requirements. Closes is the Cervelo Caledonia Rival AXS w/ Carbon wheels. However, that doesn't have internal cable routing and a bit heavier for $4000.
I would appreciate it if you have any recommendation. I can still cancel my order.
Thank you.
And if anyone cares that much about overall weight, I'd recommend a diet consisting of water and rabbit food.
1. Carbon fiber be it a lower grade.
2. Internal cable routing
3. Electrical shifter. I would prefer the SRAM.
4. Hydraulic disc breaks.
5. Less than 20lbs
6. Below $4,000
I would love to have carbon wheels, but nothing in this price range with the above requirements. Closes is the Cervelo Caledonia Rival AXS w/ Carbon wheels. However, that doesn't have internal cable routing and a bit heavier for $4000.
I would appreciate it if you have any recommendation. I can still cancel my order.
Thank you.
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