expiredIzzy138 | Staff posted Mar 08, 2024 03:38 PM
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expiredIzzy138 | Staff posted Mar 08, 2024 03:38 PM
10TB HGST WD Ultrastar DC HC510 3.5" SATA 7200RPM Hard Drive (Refurbished)
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These warranties will also apply to the 12Tb hard drive sold by goHardDrive, eBay item number:156046813385, currently priced at $89.99, ($76.49 with the ebay 15% off coupon).
*** Read these related threads here on the 10Tb and 12Tb hard drives on the particulars of these Enterprise hard drives to make sure that they can be safely used by consumers or that they'll work on various NASs ***
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Is everyone clueless?
Do you think a gently handled, robotically-made drive is going to be bad after extensive testing during production?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=38MXSD4
Rarely because of the extensive testing and gentle handling.
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BUT take one look at what the SHIPPING companies subject packages to during shipment, and y'all will realize a carefully handled cloud server drive dies early when it reaches you, not because it's refurbished in most cases, but rather, because it's been dropped, rolled, and vibrated like mad during shipment to you.
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Besides, use credit cards that double warranties, and always backup to 2+ drives.
(Because for those that don't think things thru, even if you buy a drive that's in perfect condition, it'll die years and years down the road and if you have 1 drive, bye bye data.)
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It's well known within the electronics industry that a large percentage of laptops, tvs, etc fail new because of the shipping aspect to the stores.
That's about 285 years!
Now assuming that they've been on 24/7 for 5 years in the appropriate temperature controlled enterprise server environment, they've used 43830 hours, so they have another 280 or so years to go before MTF.
Now, as the post above states, IF during shipment to you these boxes experienced very hard drops and handling, like the shipping employees were playing football with these boxes, they may be dead on arrival to you or die shortly after.
Do not assume that employees do not play football with boxes!!!
That 2.5 million power on hours before MTF, mean time failure, or 285 years, does NOT include having these hard drives subjected to extreme physical forces.
Some hard drive manufacturers lock the arms of the new hard drives using firmware/software as they leave the factory before shipment, but it's unknown here if these HGST enterprise hard drives had this done before shipment.
Again, as previously stated:
*** Read these related threads here on the 10Tb and 12Tb hard drives on the particulars of these Enterprise hard drives to make sure that they can be safely used by consumers or that they'll work on various NASs ***
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/ba...r-q1-2023/ [backblaze.com]
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That's about 285 years!
Now assuming that they've been on 24/7 for 5 years in the appropriate temperature controlled enterprise server environment, they've used 43830 hours, so they have another 280 or so years to go before MTF.
Now, as the post above states, IF during shipment to you these boxes experienced very hard drops and handling, like the shipping employees were playing football with these boxes, they may be dead on arrival to you or die shortly after.
Do not assume that employees do not play football with boxes!!!
That 2.5 million power on hours before MTF, mean time failure, or 285 years, does NOT include having these hard drives subjected to extreme physical forces.
Some hard drive manufacturers lock the arms of the new hard drives using firmware/software as they leave the factory before shipment, but it's unknown here if these HGST enterprise hard drives had this done before shipment.
Again, as previously stated:
*** Read these related threads here on the 10Tb and 12Tb hard drives on the particulars of these Enterprise hard drives to make sure that they can be safely used by consumers or that they'll work on various NASs ***
BUT, some hard drives disable this feature using Advanced Power Management, and not sure if this is disabled in these HGST Enterprise hard drives.
(There is an older IBM/HGST tool that worked on older HGST drives, but not sure if it'll work on these Enterprise hard drives. It's called the IBM - Hitachi Feature Tool. Do not use unless you know what you're doing as you may end up with a door stop.)
One of the problems with TVs and larger electronics like desktops, is that they have capacitors that can go bad within a couple of years, especially if the manufacturer used cheaper parts, capacitors/etc., that self-destruct after a certain number of power on hours.
For instance, Panasonic TVs used excellent quality parts, but I don't think it sells TVs any more, at least in the US.
A bad quality capacitor costing just cents will cause a TV or a PC not to work any more.
A good electronics repair shop will be able to repair this but it'll probably not be cost effective given the price drops in TVs, etc., these days.
BUT, some hard drives disable this feature using Advanced Power Management, and not sure if this is disabled in these HGST Enterprise hard drives.
(There is an older IBM/HGST tool that worked on older HGST drives, but not sure if it'll work on these Enterprise hard drives. It's called the IBM - Hitachi Feature Tool. Do not use unless you know what you're doing as you may end up with a door stop.)
One of the problems with TVs and larger electronics like desktops, is that they have capacitors that can go bad within a couple of years, especially if the manufacturer used cheaper parts, capacitors/etc., that self-destruct after a certain number of power on hours.
For instance, Panasonic TVs used excellent quality parts, but I don't think it sells TVs any more, at least in the US.
A bad quality capacitor costing just cents will cause a TV or a PC not to work any more.
A good electronics repair shop will be able to repair this but it'll probably not be cost effective given the price drops in TVs, etc., these days.
The point being that the hard drives are fully parked when shipped, but depending on their handling and how they're packed.... they may still be damaged in transit.
Tl;Dr - You cannot toggle head parking behavior when power is removed from a drive, they will ALWAYS park the heads. And since power is off to a drive before shipping occurs, every shipped drive has its heads parked.
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BUT, some hard drives disable this feature using Advanced Power Management, and not sure if this is disabled in these HGST Enterprise hard drives.
(There is an older IBM/HGST tool that worked on older HGST drives, but not sure if it'll work on these Enterprise hard drives. It's called the IBM - Hitachi Feature Tool. Do not use unless you know what you're doing as you may end up with a door stop.)
The point being that the hard drives are fully parked when shipped, but depending on their handling and how they're packed.... they may still be damaged in transit.
Tl;Dr - You cannot toggle head parking behavior when power is removed from a drive, they will ALWAYS park the heads. And since power is off to a drive before shipping occurs, every shipped drive has its heads parked.
There is no software method of preventing a hard drive from unloading (parking) its heads when powered off. In a proper power down sequence, the drive will be issued a command (such as Standby Immediate) which will make it flush its cache, unload the heads, and spin down. Even if it loses power unexpectedly, it will perform an emergency retract. If the heads were to land on the disk, it would likely cause serious damage.
According to WD Technology brief it depends on the hard drive model # and part #, as some have it and some don't:
https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/col... [westerndigital.com]
It looks as if those drives with the model # HUH721010ALE600 and part # beginning with the # 0F274xx for the 10 Tb, and HUH721212ALE601 and 0F29xxx for the 12Tb have the PWDIS feature that will have to be taken care of or the drive will not spin up.
It looks like the 10Tb HGST drives sold by goHardDrive on eBay have it, and some on Newegg do not have it according to the WD Technology brief.
For instance, a drive shown on Newegg with the model # HUH721010ALE601 and part # 0F27605 does not have it according to the WD Technology brief.
So, it looks like one may get a drive with it or without, depending on the batches these reseller vendors have and ship at the time.
The only thing certain is the drive size, 10Tb or 12Tb depending on one's purchase.
Also, this:
https://www.tomshardwar
Or you could get a WD HC530 series drive, which don't support PWDIS.
There is a code for 15% off eBay price in an online site that will bring cost to $59.49. Name not allowed to mention here.
Search eBay for:
HGST Ultrastar HE10 HUH721010ALE600 10TB SATA 6Gb/s 7200RPM 3.5" Enterprise HDD
There's also the 12TB for 99.99 from goHardDrive with the 5 year warranty.
Search eBay for:
HGST Ultrastar DC HC520 12TB SATA 6Gb 256MB 3.5" Enterprise HDD- HUH721212ALE601
These hard drives are rated for 2.5 million hours or about 285 years!
These hard drives should work great with the Synology NAS 4-bay DiskStation DS423+ or the 2-bay DS224+
CORRECTION:
**** According to the Synology NAS compatibility posted later on this thread, these two Synology NASs will NOT work with these HGST Enterprise hard drives ****
These are essentially HGST, Inc. (Hitachi Global Storage Technologies) hard disk drives and they have a great reputation as very long-lasting hard drives.
I don't know if the low to mid 40c, with spikes into the 50s, were an issue or not but figure keeping it cooler can't hurt.
If their a 15% coupon on these 10TB I'll buy 6.
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