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expiredForprofit posted Mar 11, 2024 05:35 PM
expiredForprofit posted Mar 11, 2024 05:35 PM

Comma Flash Sale: $200 Off Comma 3X w/ Purchase of a Select Vehicle/Car Harness

+ $200 Qualifying Car Harness + Free S/H

$1,050

$1,250

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Comma is offering their Comma Flash Sale: $200 Off Comma 3X w/ Purchase of a Select Vehicle/Car Harness (+$200) on sale for $1050 (discount will be reduced in cart) = $1250. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member Forprofit for finding this deal

Note, please select the drop down menu to select the compatible vehicle/car harness to connect the Comma 3X to your car.

Includes
  • Comma 3X
  • 1.5' Right angle OBD-C Cable
  • 2-Mounts w/ Adhesive/Alcohol Wipes
  • Selected Vehicle Hardness to Comma 3X
About the Product
  • Qualcomm Snapdragon 845
  • 2160x1080 OLED Display
  • 128GB Internal Storage
  • WiFi/LTE/High Precision GPS Connectivity
  • IR LED Interior Night Vision Monitoring
  • CAN FD Vehicles Enabled
  • 3x 1080p Camera w/ 140 dB of Dynamic Range; Dual-Cam 360 Vision & Narrow Cam
  • OBC-C Port (USB-C w/ CAN) + USB 3.1 Gen 2 Port

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • The Comma 3X is custome hardware designed to live in your car, and purpose built to run openpilot. The comma 3X has three beautiful HDR cameras, two cameras to watch the road and one night-vision camera to see inside the car. Besides cameras, the comma 3X has a suite of connectivity and sensors including cellular LTE, Wi-Fi, an IMU, high-precision GPS, and microphones
  • Must purchase a qualifying car harness to connect to your Comma 3X for discount to apply; max $200 Off
  • Comma 3X orders are shipped via UPS
  • Product will offer 30-day money back trial w/ purchase
  • Offer valid for a limited time only or while flash sale/savings last
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Written by Forprofit
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Comma is offering their Comma Flash Sale: $200 Off Comma 3X w/ Purchase of a Select Vehicle/Car Harness (+$200) on sale for $1050 (discount will be reduced in cart) = $1250. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member Forprofit for finding this deal

Note, please select the drop down menu to select the compatible vehicle/car harness to connect the Comma 3X to your car.

Includes
  • Comma 3X
  • 1.5' Right angle OBD-C Cable
  • 2-Mounts w/ Adhesive/Alcohol Wipes
  • Selected Vehicle Hardness to Comma 3X
About the Product
  • Qualcomm Snapdragon 845
  • 2160x1080 OLED Display
  • 128GB Internal Storage
  • WiFi/LTE/High Precision GPS Connectivity
  • IR LED Interior Night Vision Monitoring
  • CAN FD Vehicles Enabled
  • 3x 1080p Camera w/ 140 dB of Dynamic Range; Dual-Cam 360 Vision & Narrow Cam
  • OBC-C Port (USB-C w/ CAN) + USB 3.1 Gen 2 Port

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • The Comma 3X is custome hardware designed to live in your car, and purpose built to run openpilot. The comma 3X has three beautiful HDR cameras, two cameras to watch the road and one night-vision camera to see inside the car. Besides cameras, the comma 3X has a suite of connectivity and sensors including cellular LTE, Wi-Fi, an IMU, high-precision GPS, and microphones
  • Must purchase a qualifying car harness to connect to your Comma 3X for discount to apply; max $200 Off
  • Comma 3X orders are shipped via UPS
  • Product will offer 30-day money back trial w/ purchase
  • Offer valid for a limited time only or while flash sale/savings last
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Written by Forprofit

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gshadow325
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i have been using my comma 3 since christmas of 2021. over 90,000 miles on it and i love it. this is for the newer comma 3x.

i have it on my 2020 Lexus UX250h and my 2022 RX450H

it takes driving to level 2 autonomous driving.

it will keep you in lane without having hands on the wheel.
it will keep you in lane when you are braking
it will keep you in lane during stop and go traffic.

it will do stop and go traffic. you can have both hands on a big mac in traffic and the car will start and stop.

FYI i bought mine when it was $2500 plus 200 for the cable. $1050 right now is cheap AF.

There are clones out there but i read constantly of failures. mine has worked flawlessly.
I run sunny pilot fork.

You dont need to drive a lot to need this or appreciate this device. its one of those things, once you have it and use it you'll never want to go back LOL.
avagyan
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Unfortunately, my car is not compatible, but I'm glad that original jailbreaker Geohot's invention reached SD/mainstream.
YW55
557 Posts
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Just FYI, Comma can do things other OEM lane keep devices can't because they don't have to take responsibility for what happens. They are sold as a development kit and user has to take the responsibility for installing the software. If anything happens it's on you.

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Mar 13, 2024 04:52 AM
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chils41Mar 13, 2024 04:52 AM
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Quote from gshadow325 :
i have been using my comma 3 since christmas of 2021. over 90,000 miles on it and i love it. this is for the newer comma 3x.

i have it on my 2020 Lexus UX250h and my 2022 RX450H

it takes driving to level 2 autonomous driving.

it will keep you in lane without having hands on the wheel.
it will keep you in lane when you are braking
it will keep you in lane during stop and go traffic.

it will do stop and go traffic. you can have both hands on a big mac in traffic and the car will start and stop.

FYI i bought mine when it was $2500 plus 200 for the cable. $1050 right now is cheap AF.

There are clones out there but i read constantly of failures. mine has worked flawlessly.
I run sunny pilot fork.

You dont need to drive a lot to need this or appreciate this device. its one of those things, once you have it and use it you'll never want to go back LOL.
Does it require a subscription?
Mar 13, 2024 07:15 AM
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KaivitipowerMar 13, 2024 07:15 AM
10 Posts
Quote from Zelo :
My Toyota car harness is $200 additional.

Has anyone here actually used this?
Yeah I used it when I had a 2019 Camry hybrid Le even though the car was semi compatible this comma device drove more than 80% of the 63K miles the car had when I sold it last year. I have a Tesla now and the standard autopilot feature that comes standard with all teslas still lags behind comma 3 with openpilot. Keep in mind I'm talking about a semi compatible car if my vehicle was fully compatible my experience would've been even better.
Mar 13, 2024 09:27 AM
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fearzizMar 13, 2024 09:27 AM
667 Posts
does it work on 2014 ford escape? base model.
Mar 13, 2024 09:48 AM
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Samwise GamgeeMar 13, 2024 09:48 AM
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So for the SD poor, what is this?
Based on comments, sounds like it's a autopilot standalone add-on?
Like when built-in car GPS was for rich folks, then came gps device and smartphones?
Mar 13, 2024 11:22 AM
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shuklazMar 13, 2024 11:22 AM
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Quote from scythen60 :
For Mazda you'll want to join the MoreTorque discord channel. You'll want to buy TI (torque intercepter) at the very least, and possibly RI (radar interceptor). I suspect within the next few months there may be partial support for some of those experimental features. Since TI has a fork of another fork (frogpilot) now, mazda supports always on lateral and navigate on openpilot.
Thank based on discord 2022+ have better EPS
Motor so TI is not a must ( thought TI would be better)
Openpilot doesn't certify TI an RI so I am concerned to experiment over experimental features
Mar 13, 2024 11:42 AM
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bellyMar 13, 2024 11:42 AM
286 Posts
Compatible with a lot of car brands including Nissan, but for some reason not Infiniti....
Anyone used this with an Infiniti?
Mar 13, 2024 12:32 PM
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Fe2_O3Mar 13, 2024 12:32 PM
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Quote from chils41 :
Does it require a subscription?
It's optional. Not required. Just for video uploads and optional navigation

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Mar 13, 2024 02:20 PM
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RobS8183Mar 13, 2024 02:20 PM
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Quote from nahcyrag :
to give you an idea of how this works. This is actually safer than a person driving the car. It uses the radar in most car to detect objects in front. so it will do a better job at stopping a car then someone that is distracted by a phone or not paying attention. of course, you are supposed to be paying attention at all time. this also has a face recognition to make sure you are paying attention, on top of that it tracks your eyes to see if you are paying attention.
I understand that...but if you read the 2nd post in the thread the commenter mentions eating a Big Mac with both hands while his car does the driving. That's great until the car doesn't recognize a narrow motorcycle from behind. There are limitations to what the radar can and can't see...obviously.
Mar 13, 2024 02:46 PM
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brads3143Mar 13, 2024 02:46 PM
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Quote from denyeu1nguoi :
Do you really think small start up can take on that kind of liability when even big car companies won't.
uhh no. i dont. you explained your own answer.
Mar 13, 2024 04:50 PM
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TenseSparrow2873Mar 13, 2024 04:50 PM
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Can I install it on my tesla to make it better? 🤣
Mar 13, 2024 05:26 PM
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bugsy714Mar 13, 2024 05:26 PM
725 Posts
Any commentary on how this compares with the Subaru eyesight feature
Mar 13, 2024 05:27 PM
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mr_rollaMar 13, 2024 05:27 PM
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Quote from RobS8183 :
I understand that...but if you read the 2nd post in the thread the commenter mentions eating a Big Mac with both hands while his car does the driving. That's great until the car doesn't recognize a narrow motorcycle from behind. There are limitations to what the radar can and can't see...obviously.
I'm a motorcycle rider, Comma user, and I've also worked in the self driving car industry for the past 8 years..

As a MC rider -someone driving with Comma is not necessarily more dangerous than any of the other cagers that we encounter. Is it possible to get rear ended? Sure, but also just as likely to get rear ended by someone not paying attention.

As a Comma user -stopped vehicle detection is experimental at best, and it will likely not detect and stop for a motorcycle. Whether that's with radar or with visual acc. Neither method has good enough perception to recognize the object (at least not today).

As an industry professional -theres a reason why we still don't have reliable level 5 self driving. It's just not good enough to handle all scenarios. The only way to get around the deficiency right now is to geofence the areas that you operate in, and use HD mapping, lidar, etc etc to try and solve as many scenarios as possible. But even 99.9% reliable isn't good enough. The 0.1% of time that you run over a pedestrian or bicycle, isn't an acceptable loss.. that's why there are still trained operators behind the wheel in most cases.
Mar 13, 2024 06:21 PM
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RobS8183Mar 13, 2024 06:21 PM
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Quote from mr_rolla :
I'm a motorcycle rider, Comma user, and I've also worked in the self driving car industry for the past 8 years..

As a MC rider -someone driving with Comma is not necessarily more dangerous than any of the other cagers that we encounter. Is it possible to get rear ended? Sure, but also just as likely to get rear ended by someone not paying attention.

As a Comma user -stopped vehicle detection is experimental at best, and it will likely not detect and stop for a motorcycle. Whether that's with radar or with visual acc. Neither method has good enough perception to recognize the object (at least not today).

As an industry professional -theres a reason why we still don't have reliable level 5 self driving. It's just not good enough to handle all scenarios. The only way to get around the deficiency right now is to geofence the areas that you operate in, and use HD mapping, lidar, etc etc to try and solve as many scenarios as possible. But even 99.9% reliable isn't good enough. The 0.1% of time that you run over a pedestrian or bicycle, isn't an acceptable loss.. that's why there are still trained operators behind the wheel in most cases.
This is good to have the different perspectives. I think encouraging people to pay attention (ie...Not eat a Big Mac with both hands) is a valid request.

Lat week I was next to a Tesla driver on I5. He was 3/4 the way into the back seat looking for something in a duffle bag. I didn't like it.
Mar 13, 2024 06:24 PM
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arr_seaMar 13, 2024 06:24 PM
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Quote from mr_rolla :
I'm a motorcycle rider, Comma user, and I've also worked in the self driving car industry for the past 8 years..

As a MC rider -someone driving with Comma is not necessarily more dangerous than any of the other cagers that we encounter. Is it possible to get rear ended? Sure, but also just as likely to get rear ended by someone not paying attention.

As a Comma user -stopped vehicle detection is experimental at best, and it will likely not detect and stop for a motorcycle. Whether that's with radar or with visual acc. Neither method has good enough perception to recognize the object (at least not today).

As an industry professional -theres a reason why we still don't have reliable level 5 self driving. It's just not good enough to handle all scenarios. The only way to get around the deficiency right now is to geofence the areas that you operate in, and use HD mapping, lidar, etc etc to try and solve as many scenarios as possible. But even 99.9% reliable isn't good enough. The 0.1% of time that you run over a pedestrian or bicycle, isn't an acceptable loss.. that's why there are still trained operators behind the wheel in most cases.
@mr_rolla, I really appreciate you sharing your expertise here.

Could you be more specific about which circumstances you would or would not trust a Comma to always recognize and stop behind a motorcycle?

For example:
  • adaptive cruise control following a motorcycle,
  • adaptive cruise control coming upon abruptly stopped traffic, with a motorcycle in the back of the traffic
  • adaptive cruise control with a motorcycle cutting in front and then hitting the brakes
Would you expect the Comma to respond better/worse/equal, as compared to Toyota Safety Sense 2.5?

Thank you!

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Mar 13, 2024 08:27 PM
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mr_rollaMar 13, 2024 08:27 PM
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Stopped object detection using radar (like what you'd find in TSS) - we're looking at somewhere between 200-300 feet of detection range at best. At 70mph, you're moving at 100ft every second. So, you've got about 2-3 seconds to detect the object, realize it's stopped, then apply brakes. That's just not enough time.

Human eyes can see things out to maybe a mile. Our perception of the environment is actually pretty good.

Let's say we use a camera to detect things. Does our camera have enough pixels to actually see an object? Think about if you take a photo of something far away.. it's usually a bit blurry. But as we get closer, the image becomes more clear.
Then we need processing power - how do we determine that those pixels are getting larger as we approach it, and also determine that it's not moving away for us, so we can make a decision to stop?
We're still at an early stage of being able to do this with camera images, but I have no doubt that AI will help immensely to solve these problems in the future.


For following a motorcycle - assuming you've got the radar tracking the MC as it comes to a stop, definitely possible for us to slow at the same rate and come to a stop. However, a single radar has no redundancy and if it loses that radar track, we could have a problem. The redundancy is the human driver taking over and applying the brakes in this scenario.

For MC cutting in - unless we have some kind of perception to the side, we won't recognize it until it gets right in front of our radar/camera setup that's pointed to the front.
If you have say a lidar or camera looking at the side (or human eyeballs looking at the mirror), then we can determine the direction and velocity of the MC, and start braking before it cuts in.

As for Comma vs TSS2.5 - the TSS base system relies solely on radar. Comma has some experimental stuff using the camera to detect objects ahead, so arguably with a camera you could see things like pedestrians and red lights/stop signs which would be impossible with radar. Camera has the potential to be more powerful, but this is dependent on training the system with enough images to "learn" the environment. ie, like teaching a child to understand what's a red vs green light - they have to see it many times in order to understand what it means and how to react.
Last edited by mr_rolla March 13, 2024 at 01:41 PM.

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