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How does this compare to the P-series that is much cheaper for the same specs (different CPU AMD 7840U)?
I got a P16s with 64GB RAM and 4K OLED for $1130. No way this is worth $3300 normally...is it just build quality for the extra dollars?
First, that's correct. No way is it worth $3,300 normally. Good X1 Carbon deals, such as around the holidays are usually in the $900 to $1,200 range, depending on configuration. This 12th Generation is brand new, so the deals might not be there yet on this model.
As for the differences, it's definitely not just build quality. The X1 Carbon is Lenovo's premium lightweight business ultrabook. They are wafer thin and super-lightweight yet extremely durable and reliable, and usually has higher quality CRI displays available than the comparable P series. The 1/2-pound difference vs something like the P14 may not sound like much, but hold the two in your hands and it's night and day. Whether that's worth it to you its an individual choice. My X1 Carbons have been the best laptops I've ever owned, but you don't buy an X1 Carbon for world class application performance. You buy it because it's a pleasure to carry and use.
If you do consider an X1 Carbon, I recommend avoiding the fastest processor and highest resolution display. The power-efficient "U" class i7 and the low-power display are outstanding enough, and with them you can get all-day battery life.
Disclosure: I have not used the 12th generation. My current X1 Carbon is 11th Generation.
First, that's correct. No way is it worth $3,300 normally. Good X1 Carbon deals, such as around the holidays are usually in the $900 to $1,200 range, depending on configuration. This 12th Generation is brand new, so the deals might not be there yet on this model.
Sadly, we are 8 months from BF
ID.me takes off another $85 to bring down to $1565
First, that's correct. No way is it worth $3,300 normally. Good X1 Carbon deals, such as around the holidays are usually in the $900 to $1,200 range, depending on configuration. This 12th Generation is brand new, so the deals might not be there yet on this model.
As for the differences, it's definitely not just build quality. The X1 Carbon is Lenovo's premium lightweight business ultrabook. They are wafer thin and super-lightweight yet extremely durable and reliable, and usually has higher quality CRI displays available than the comparable P series. The 1/2-pound difference vs something like the P14 may not sound like much, but hold the two in your hands and it's night and day. Whether that's worth it to you its an individual choice. My X1 Carbons have been the best laptops I've ever owned, but you don't buy an X1 Carbon for world class application performance. You buy it because it's a pleasure to carry and use.
If you do consider an X1 Carbon, I recommend avoiding the fastest processor and highest resolution display. The power-efficient "U" class i7 and the low-power display are outstanding enough, and with them you can get all-day battery life.
Disclosure: I have not used the 12th generation. My current X1 Carbon is 11th Generation.
Any major changes in this new model? Have they fixed the hot air blowing out the top right side right where you mouse hand is?
Great chassis and overall build quality but the battery life on these is MISERABLE. Few hours max on "battery saver" and that's with CPU throttled to an unusable speed.
First, that's correct. No way is it worth $3,300 normally. Good X1 Carbon deals, such as around the holidays are usually in the $900 to $1,200 range, depending on configuration. This 12th Generation is brand new, so the deals might not be there yet on this model.
As for the differences, it's definitely not just build quality. The X1 Carbon is Lenovo's premium lightweight business ultrabook. They are wafer thin and super-lightweight yet extremely durable and reliable, and usually has higher quality CRI displays available than the comparable P series. The 1/2-pound difference vs something like the P14 may not sound like much, but hold the two in your hands and it's night and day. Whether that's worth it to you its an individual choice. My X1 Carbons have been the best laptops I've ever owned, but you don't buy an X1 Carbon for world class application performance. You buy it because it's a pleasure to carry and use.
If you do consider an X1 Carbon, I recommend avoiding the fastest processor and highest resolution display. The power-efficient "U" class i7 and the low-power display are outstanding enough, and with them you can get all-day battery life.
Disclosure: I have not used the 12th generation. My current X1 Carbon is 11th Generation.
Is the screen on these glossy or matte? I love the saturation on macbooks, but the pure glossy reflectivity is a joke.
I looked up what the differences are with this new Gen 12 and it's not really much -- certainly not worth the premium being charged. More importantly, they haven't released any variations yet for this brand new model. You usually get the option to choose a more power-efficient processor and display, which I would highly recommend. Those haven't appeared yet. The X1 carbon with the right processor and display has great performance and outstanding battery life, but with the wrong processor and display will be a power hog. If you need it now, I would pass on Gen 12 and look for a bargain on Gen 11. Unfortunately, the "discounts" of around 45% right now aren't great. You want to look for 60% or more, which comes around fairly frequently depending on the model you want (I got this one[lenovo.com] for $1149 plus cashback a few months ago). Set up a SlickDeals alert and keep checking back yourself.
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Too bad this didn't have a touch screen
They have touch screens for previous generations but haven't released one for Gen 12 yet. I don't recommend them for this laptop due to the power consumption but they'll no doubt be available this year.
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Any major changes in this new model? Have they fixed the hot air blowing out the top right side right where you mouse hand is?
No major changes that would justify the price premium. The Gen 12 should be better for gaming, but if you're a gamer you should not be buying an X1 Carbon anyway. As for the air blowing, I don't know what Gen had that issue but I've not experienced anything like that on the Gen 11.
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Can someone comment if they accept any trade-ins of older models?
Never heard of such a program from Lenovo.
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Great chassis and overall build quality but the battery life on these is MISERABLE. Few hours max on "battery saver" and that's with CPU throttled to an unusable speed.
I see that the Gen 12 has only been released with a 2.8K display and a power hungry processor. Both are bad ideas for the X1 Carbon. The the power-saving "U" class processors and low-power displays (which are excellent) were the optimal choice for the previous gen X1 Carbon, and I guess those haven't been released yet for the Gen 12.
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Is the screen on these glossy or matte? I love the saturation on macbooks, but the pure glossy reflectivity is a joke.
AFAIK X1 Carbon displays have always been matte (except perhaps for a touch screen on some previous generation)
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Sadly, we are 8 months from BF
ID.me takes off another $85 to bring down to $1565
Since the Gen 12 was just released, there will be much better deals on the Gen 11. Set up an SD alert and keep checking back at Lenovo. You should be able to stack a sale plus coupon plus IDme plus cashback from another site (which fluctuates and has been as high as 16%). Another savings tip if you're interested in anything else from Lenovo: Buy only the laptop, then wait 30 days, then chat with Lenovo to apply the Lenovo Rewards from your original purchase to whatever else you want. At a minimum, this purchase should get you enough rewards to add a year or two to your warranty. And there's always refurb.
I would not buy another Intel until they catchup with rest of the industry, they've become GM/Ford/Boeing. Too comfortable due to their past success. The processors heat real bad, they throttle, it's just not a pleasant experience to use them anymore.
Though they advertise this "Ultra" series as revolutionary and all, it's not. It's just their PR and Marketing team spewing BS.
Is the screen on these glossy or matte? I love the saturation on macbooks, but the pure glossy reflectivity is a joke.
It has OLED and they're always glossy. Lenovo has applied some anti-glare coating on it to reduce the reflection but it is glossy. Don't take suggesyions like "Thinkpad Carbon always has Matte display". It depends on the exact panel the specific SKU Is using as there are multiple display options available.
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I got a P16s with 64GB RAM and 4K OLED for $1130. No way this is worth $3300 normally...is it just build quality for the extra dollars?
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I got a P16s with 64GB RAM and 4K OLED for $1130. No way this is worth $3300 normally...is it just build quality for the extra dollars?
As for the differences, it's definitely not just build quality. The X1 Carbon is Lenovo's premium lightweight business ultrabook. They are wafer thin and super-lightweight yet extremely durable and reliable, and usually has higher quality CRI displays available than the comparable P series. The 1/2-pound difference vs something like the P14 may not sound like much, but hold the two in your hands and it's night and day. Whether that's worth it to you its an individual choice. My X1 Carbons have been the best laptops I've ever owned, but you don't buy an X1 Carbon for world class application performance. You buy it because it's a pleasure to carry and use.
If you do consider an X1 Carbon, I recommend avoiding the fastest processor and highest resolution display. The power-efficient "U" class i7 and the low-power display are outstanding enough, and with them you can get all-day battery life.
Disclosure: I have not used the 12th generation. My current X1 Carbon is 11th Generation.
Sadly, we are 8 months from BF
ID.me takes off another $85 to bring down to $1565
Too bad this didn't have a touch screen
As for the differences, it's definitely not just build quality. The X1 Carbon is Lenovo's premium lightweight business ultrabook. They are wafer thin and super-lightweight yet extremely durable and reliable, and usually has higher quality CRI displays available than the comparable P series. The 1/2-pound difference vs something like the P14 may not sound like much, but hold the two in your hands and it's night and day. Whether that's worth it to you its an individual choice. My X1 Carbons have been the best laptops I've ever owned, but you don't buy an X1 Carbon for world class application performance. You buy it because it's a pleasure to carry and use.
If you do consider an X1 Carbon, I recommend avoiding the fastest processor and highest resolution display. The power-efficient "U" class i7 and the low-power display are outstanding enough, and with them you can get all-day battery life.
Disclosure: I have not used the 12th generation. My current X1 Carbon is 11th Generation.
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As for the differences, it's definitely not just build quality. The X1 Carbon is Lenovo's premium lightweight business ultrabook. They are wafer thin and super-lightweight yet extremely durable and reliable, and usually has higher quality CRI displays available than the comparable P series. The 1/2-pound difference vs something like the P14 may not sound like much, but hold the two in your hands and it's night and day. Whether that's worth it to you its an individual choice. My X1 Carbons have been the best laptops I've ever owned, but you don't buy an X1 Carbon for world class application performance. You buy it because it's a pleasure to carry and use.
If you do consider an X1 Carbon, I recommend avoiding the fastest processor and highest resolution display. The power-efficient "U" class i7 and the low-power display are outstanding enough, and with them you can get all-day battery life.
Disclosure: I have not used the 12th generation. My current X1 Carbon is 11th Generation.
ID.me takes off another $85 to bring down to $1565
Though they advertise this "Ultra" series as revolutionary and all, it's not. It's just their PR and Marketing team spewing BS.