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expiredbonkman posted Mar 19, 2024 12:15 AM
expiredbonkman posted Mar 19, 2024 12:15 AM

The Smartest House Home Automation Spring Sale: Zooz 800 Z-Wave Remote Switch

& Many More + Free S/H on $99+

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The Smartest House is hosting their Smartest House Home Automation Spring Sale listed below. Shipping is free on orders $99+, otherwise, shipping starts at ~$10.42 (via USPS Ground Advantage)

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  • Jump on these fresh deals on your favorite Z-Wave relays/sensors to get the most of automation in this Spring sale through The Smartest House
  • Promo prices can't be applied retroactively to previous orders or future purchases outside of the promotional period
  • Quick returns and replacement within the first 30-days of purchase/friendly tech support
  • Offer/sale valid through March 26, 2024 or while pricing/supplies last
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  • Please see original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion - Discombobulated

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The Smartest House is hosting their Smartest House Home Automation Spring Sale listed below. Shipping is free on orders $99+, otherwise, shipping starts at ~$10.42 (via USPS Ground Advantage)

Thanks to community member bonkman for finding this deal

Note, prices are as marked on the product page

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Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • Jump on these fresh deals on your favorite Z-Wave relays/sensors to get the most of automation in this Spring sale through The Smartest House
  • Promo prices can't be applied retroactively to previous orders or future purchases outside of the promotional period
  • Quick returns and replacement within the first 30-days of purchase/friendly tech support
  • Offer/sale valid through March 26, 2024 or while pricing/supplies last
Additional Notes
  • Please see original post for additional details & give the WIKI and additional forum comments a read for helpful discussion - Discombobulated

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izzletodasmizzl
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They have never offered free shipping on any order. Granted it used to be $50 like 2 years ago.

I'll let you in on a little secret, companies that offer free shipping just build it into the price of the product.
SDNick484
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Well, it can be argued that since Z-wave is mesh based, there's some value on focusing on one platform (more nodes == stronger mesh with more reliability/range). With that said, most controller platforms (SmartThings, Hubitat, Home Assistant, etc.) all support multiple so running multiple protocols isn't a huge issue.
Timless
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eh. Why not run both?

I've got zigbee, zwave, wifi and matter devices. No issues with any of them.

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Mar 19, 2024 07:42 PM
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4everATXMar 19, 2024 07:42 PM
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Quote from covertfantom :
Can someone with the latest generation of Zooz switches comment on the feel of pressing on the switch? I have some older Zooz switches and they have a mushy press as opposed to my (albeit fragile) GE switches that are very clicky.
I've been waiting for the linear/tactile/clicky wall switch trend to begin 😆

I have both 700 and 800 series switches. Generally couldn't tell the difference between the two but 700 seems mushier while being less wobbly side to side.
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SDrocks1Mar 19, 2024 07:47 PM
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hi, what can I use to bypass my pole light daylight sensor? something that will fit in that outdoor box where I can put a schedule on it would be great. my sensor is covered by some plants so in the summer it doesn't work as intended. thanks
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truemarkMar 19, 2024 07:54 PM
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I have the original Smartthings Hub (STH-ETH-200), with Z-wave Plus and ZigBee logos printed on its back. I assume all the Z-wave products should work with it.

Is there any reason I would need a new hub (like their Z-Box Hub) to connect to these Z-wave products? I'm looking to install the garage opener kit, smart plug, and switches.
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kukblue1Mar 19, 2024 08:34 PM
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Quote from truemark :
I have the original Smartthings Hub (STH-ETH-200), with Z-wave Plus and ZigBee logos printed on its back. I assume all the Z-wave products should work with it.

Is there any reason I would need a new hub (like their Z-Box Hub) to connect to these Z-wave products? I'm looking to install the garage opener kit, smart plug, and switches.

I have V2 works just fine but you need to install the drivers. I won't be good at explaining it or finding the site to do it off the top of my head but I'm sure others can help.
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zen313Mar 19, 2024 08:39 PM
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Quote from kukblue1 :
Ok I was thinking of getting rid of z wave cause I was having issues but people from this board and reading up on it z-wave is still the way to go. So I got a Zooz 800 Series Z-Wave Long Range Scene Controller Switch ZEN32 last time. There were over $25 this time they are just over $20 and wow. You can do so much with it. Really worth it even if you don't really need it. Lets face it your voice can do it just as easily but if you have company it's easier to tell them what button to push to turn on certain lights so they don't have to remember the command I'm getting another one at this price.

Agreed.... bought the Zen32 on the last sale. It has made it SOOOO much easier for my partner (who just moved in) to control all the various scenes in the kitchen/dining area, that she now wants one in every major room to control all the lights.
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TimlessMar 19, 2024 08:46 PM
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Quote from amax :
Sure, but $99 as a threshold is insulting. This always comes up, and fans/shills for this company always defend them.

It's true, Z-Wave is getting killed by the dominant platforms, gotta accept that. The old-timers will keep resisting SmartThings and Matter until...well...ya know.
I'm confused.

Smarthings supports z-wave.
Matter is still a mess, and support is slow.
I don't think smartthings is expanding. Samsung even got rid of it.
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TimlessMar 19, 2024 08:48 PM
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Quote from zen313 :
Agreed.... bought the Zen32 on the last sale. It has made it SOOOO much easier for my partner (who just moved in) to control all the various scenes in the kitchen/dining area, that she now wants one in every major room to control all the lights.
I didn't want to loose dimmability, so I think the ZEN37 is better.
Too bad it's hard to integrate it into the same faceplate with the rest of the switches.

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Mar 19, 2024 09:07 PM
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amaxMar 19, 2024 09:07 PM
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Quote from Timless :
I'm confused.

Smarthings supports z-wave.
Matter is still a mess, and support is slow.
I don't think smartthings is expanding. Samsung even got rid of it.
You needn't be; these are widely available facts.

Most SmartThings hubs manufactured in the past year and going forward, remove Z-Wave, plain and simple.

I'm not a fan of Matter as it meddles in the congested Wi-Fi router space and is less resilient. SmartThings almost dominates the entire HA space and old-timey hobbyists are in denial about it, because they like to tinker with old tech. Samsung is actually doubling down on SmartThings, it's just that they're moving out of the hardware space. All Samsung products boast about SmartThings integration.
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psycttoMar 19, 2024 09:46 PM
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Quote from Timless :
I'm confused.

Smarthings supports z-wave.
Matter is still a mess, and support is slow.
I don't think smartthings is expanding. Samsung even got rid of it.
To be clear… Samsung ended hardware production of the hubs, they now have Aeotec producing their hubs.
Samsung is only supporting the software side of things… which, if Matter ever actually works, will make their life "easier" as there'll actually be a standard for the absolute mess of WiFi devices.

Either way… WiFi sucks and shouldn't be used for smart devices, dedicated networks like zwave and Zigbee should, that's specifically what they were designed for. It's a shame Zigbee had such a garbage spec that wasn't enforced in the slightest… the shear number of jumps Zigbee is capable of is fantastic, zwave is 4, maybe 5 if you're lucky.
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psycttoMar 19, 2024 09:57 PM
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Quote from amax :
You needn't be; these are widely available facts.

Most SmartThings hubs manufactured in the past year and going forward, remove Z-Wave, plain and simple.

I'm not a fan of Matter as it meddles in the congested Wi-Fi router space and is less resilient. SmartThings almost dominates the entire HA space and old-timey hobbyists are in denial about it, because they like to tinker with old tech. Samsung is actually doubling down on SmartThings, it's just that they're moving out of the hardware space. All Samsung products boast about SmartThings integration.
You're talking about the SmartThings Station, which yes is Matter/Zigbee… the Aeotec SmartThings Hub, which is still ZWave/zigbee, is still produced by Aeotec and is supported by Samsung SmartThings. Samsung partnered with them 3ish years ago when they decided to stop making hubs.

But Samsung has always just "did shit" in the home automation area… so who knows what they'll do next.
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ravdMar 19, 2024 10:09 PM
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Quote from covertfantom :
Can someone with the latest generation of Zooz switches comment on the feel of pressing on the switch? I have some older Zooz switches and they have a mushy press as opposed to my (albeit fragile) GE switches that are very clicky.
Just replaced finally failed GE 12722 switch with ZEN71 800LR. I do not see any difference in how clicky they are. Definitely not mushy. You can get one on amazon and return it if you don't like it.
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TimlessMar 19, 2024 10:37 PM
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Quote from psyctto :
You're talking about the SmartThings Station, which yes is Matter/Zigbee… the Aeotec SmartThings Hub, which is still ZWave/zigbee, is still produced by Aeotec and is supported by Samsung SmartThings. Samsung partnered with them 3ish years ago when they decided to stop making hubs.

But Samsung has always just "did shit" in the home automation area… so who knows what they'll do next.
Where do they even sell the aeotec version?
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DJ_SAMMY_D
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I need a no neutral 3 way switch .. 3 way means 2 switches controlling 1 light right?

Does that exist on this site?
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Quote from amax :
Sure, but $99 as a threshold is insulting. This always comes up, and fans/shills for this company always defend them.

It's true, Z-Wave is getting killed by the dominant platforms, gotta accept that. The old-timers will keep resisting SmartThings and Matter until...well...ya know.
I mean, you're always free to buy from Amazon and pay a higher price per device but get free shipping if you shell out $140 for prime...

Getting killed doesn't mean inferior product. 4K blurays are getting killed by streaming yet are a far superior A/V experience. Many people don't know any better and set up Google Home or Alexa because they're easy and ubiquitous....much like a Netflix account. But your last sentence doesn't even make sense. SmartThings and Matter aren't competitors to Z-Wave. Z-Wave is a radio technology. SmartThings is an automation hub. And Matter is a "unifying" protocol. It's like saying "these old-timers who keep insisting on watching free OTA TV are being killed by HDMI and OLED."

Z-Wave devices have many advantages for home automation purposes over WiFi. SmartThings was a popular hub but many (superior) alternatives have sprung up in the past decade...and those are superior to Google Home and Alexa. And Matter is...well, a thing that attempts to solve a problem that Z-wave with a good hub doesn't have. Matter's basically engineers throwing in the towel and trying their best to make people who don't know what they're doing and just buy a bunch of random devices happy.
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Quote from DJ_SAMMY_D :
I need a no neutral 3 way switch .. 3 way means 2 switches controlling 1 light right?

Does that exist on this site?
3way indeed means two switches for one socket. You can email Zooz CS about your question. I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of their products but I think they might all require a neutral. You might be able to use one of the relays, however. Zooz is actually really helpful with wiring questions.

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