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Apple MacBook Pro: M3 Pro, 14.2" Liquid Retina XDR, 512GB SSD Expired

$1699
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B&H Photo Video has Apple MacBook Pro (MRX33LL/A, Space Black) on sale for $1699. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member Dr.Wajahat for finding this deal.

Specs:
  • Apple M3 Pro 11-cores (5x Performance 4GHz + 6x Efficiency 2.7Ghz) Processor, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
  • 14.2" (3024x1964) Liquid Retina XDR, 254ppi, 1000-nits sustained (1600-nits peak) ProMotion 120Hz Mini-LED Display
  • 18GB Onboard Unified Memory
  • 512GB Solid State Drive SSD Storage
  • Wi-Fi 6E 802.11ax + Bluetooth 5.3
  • 1080p FaceTime HD Webcam
  • Studio-Quality Three-Mic Array with High Signal-to-Noise Ratio and Directional Beamforming
  • High-Fidelity Six-Speaker System with Force-Cancelling Woofers
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard w/ Touch ID sensor & Force Touch Trackpad
  • Ports:
    • 3x Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) ports w/ support for Charging
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1x SD card reader
    • 1x Headphone jack (3.5mm)
    • 1x MagSafe 3 Power w/ 70W USB-C Power Adapter
  • 72.4 Whr Li-Po Battery
  • 12.31 x 8.71 x 0.61" (3.5 lbs)

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SPECS:

  • Apple M3 Pro 11-cores (5x Performance 4GHz + 6x Efficiency 2.7Ghz) Processor, 14-core GPU, 16-core Neural Engine
  • 14.2" (3024x1964) Liquid Retina XDR, 254ppi, 1000-nits sustained (1600-nits peak) ProMotion 120Hz Mini-LED Display
  • 18GB Onboard Unified Memory
  • 512GB Solid State Drive SSD Storage
  • Wi-Fi 6E 802.11ax + Bluetooth 5.3
  • 1080p FaceTime HD Webcam
  • Studio-Quality Three-Mic Array with High Signal-to-Noise Ratio and Directional Beamforming
  • High-Fidelity Six-Speaker System with Force-Cancelling Woofers
  • Backlit Magic Keyboard w/ Touch ID sensor & Force Touch Trackpad
  • Ports:
    • 3x Thunderbolt 4 (USB-C) ports w/ support for Charging
    • 1x HDMI 2.1
    • 1x SD card reader
    • 1x Headphone jack (3.5mm)
    • 1x MagSafe 3 Power w/ 70W USB-C Power Adapter
  • 72.4 Whr Li-Po Battery
  • 12.31 x 8.71 x 0.61" (3.5 lbs)


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I got Best Buy to price match this and picked it up in store same day.
This chip was out last Fall 2023.

Apple Silicon had Neuro-engines for a few years. The software has yet to catch-up to utilize it fully. So don't hold your breath for the next "M4".

The most prominent software that uses "AI" is the local large language models and they are all coded to use the GPUs for best performance, not the NPUs. I suspect it's for portability with nvidia code since the rest of the world is using Nvidia chip so GPU based approach is still king and perhaps easier to code on Apple Silicon GPU/Metal API. Also, GPU has a lot more power ie: 40 GPUs highest on M3 Max chip. I don't know how many NPUs because no one cares to talk about it and I can't remember this info either.


Nest version of Siri may use some onboard NPU like how Apple Watch Ultra 2 is doing local Siri language understanding so it has less lag than having to going to the server to know what you're asking but that's just very minor "AI" integration, nothing mind-blowing like LLMs. LLMs are still too big for the most part to be embedded. Smallest one is like 1GB but performance may be low for real practical use beyond the basic "Siri" type of workload to run locally. The lowest LLM I've use for good enough has been 3.8GB in size.

Pretty sure Adobe creative suite uses GPUs for their AI features and using NPU since NPU are still very low in core count and no one benchmarks the NPUs thus far and only the GPUs via Cinebench etc.


The most important AI stuff will always be in the cloud for long time because of the sheer processing power needed. You won't generate Sora video locally easily without a very powerful machine, you can't anyway since Sora is closed-sourced still.

LLM wise, the decent competitive ChatGPT competitive is like 26GB sized Mixtral-8x7B and you need a decent machine with 32-36GB just to hold the data in memory. I use the 3.6GB version of it's baby brother Mistral on my 16GB machine.

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03-27-2024 at 07:11 AM.
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lowest I've seen it. I think its $1799 at costco right now.
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03-27-2024 at 11:19 AM.
03-27-2024 at 11:19 AM.
Man.. anyone else waiting for a deal on the 11/14, 36gb ram, 512gb ssd model? I know Adorama had it on sale at $1999 and B&H at $2050 a couple months ago.

Not sure if I should keep waiting
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03-27-2024 at 01:05 PM.
03-27-2024 at 01:05 PM.
I got Best Buy to price match this and picked it up in store same day.
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03-27-2024 at 02:45 PM.
03-27-2024 at 02:45 PM.
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I got Best Buy to price match this and picked it up in store same day.
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03-27-2024 at 04:03 PM.
03-27-2024 at 04:03 PM.
Quote from goodmxguy :
When was this laptop first available? I heard in the news that new laptops are coming with AI integrated
This chip was out last Fall 2023.

Apple Silicon had Neuro-engines for a few years. The software has yet to catch-up to utilize it fully. So don't hold your breath for the next "M4".

The most prominent software that uses "AI" is the local large language models and they are all coded to use the GPUs for best performance, not the NPUs. I suspect it's for portability with nvidia code since the rest of the world is using Nvidia chip so GPU based approach is still king and perhaps easier to code on Apple Silicon GPU/Metal API. Also, GPU has a lot more power ie: 40 GPUs highest on M3 Max chip. I don't know how many NPUs because no one cares to talk about it and I can't remember this info either.


Nest version of Siri may use some onboard NPU like how Apple Watch Ultra 2 is doing local Siri language understanding so it has less lag than having to going to the server to know what you're asking but that's just very minor "AI" integration, nothing mind-blowing like LLMs. LLMs are still too big for the most part to be embedded. Smallest one is like 1GB but performance may be low for real practical use beyond the basic "Siri" type of workload to run locally. The lowest LLM I've use for good enough has been 3.8GB in size.

Pretty sure Adobe creative suite uses GPUs for their AI features and using NPU since NPU are still very low in core count and no one benchmarks the NPUs thus far and only the GPUs via Cinebench etc.


The most important AI stuff will always be in the cloud for long time because of the sheer processing power needed. You won't generate Sora video locally easily without a very powerful machine, you can't anyway since Sora is closed-sourced still.

LLM wise, the decent competitive ChatGPT competitive is like 26GB sized Mixtral-8x7B and you need a decent machine with 32-36GB just to hold the data in memory. I use the 3.6GB version of it's baby brother Mistral on my 16GB machine.
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03-28-2024 at 09:08 AM.
Quote from arnoldxd :
Man.. anyone else waiting for a deal on the 11/14, 36gb ram, 512gb ssd model? I know Adorama had it on sale at $1999 and B&H at $2050 a couple months ago.

Not sure if I should keep waiting
I am waiting for a Max with 36Gb to drop myself. LOL.
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03-28-2024 at 09:21 AM.
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Waiting on 1TB!!!!! Soon hopefully!
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03-28-2024 at 09:26 AM.
03-28-2024 at 09:26 AM.
Any deals on a 16"?
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I am waiting for a Max with 36Gb to drop myself. LOL.
Now $1699 on this model. These prices keep tempting me!
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03-28-2024 at 10:54 AM.
03-28-2024 at 10:54 AM.
I pulled trigger at Costco because of extra year warranty and easy return if anything goes wrong, plus 2% award with costco credit card
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03-28-2024 at 11:06 AM.
Quote from Seagull1997 :
I pulled trigger at Costco because of extra year warranty and easy return if anything goes wrong, plus 2% award with costco credit card

But it's $100 more right? I would rather buy at Costco as well but doesn't seem worth it.

Is this the same one that's also $1699 on the Apple refurbished store?
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03-28-2024 at 11:20 AM.
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But it's $100 more right? I would rather buy at Costco as well but doesn't seem worth it.

Is this the same one that's also $1699 on the Apple refurbished store?
yeh, this is for my daughter's birthday plus her 7 year-old macbook pro slowed down so much
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