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Amazon's just playing the eco-game. Their investment in Rivian is practically a rounding error and an experiment. The primary benefactor is Rivian in that deal.
Actually Rivian is not benefitting from that deal because Amazon is not ordering enough, which is why Rivian wants out of the deal.
You haven't been following the news lately. Japan and Korea are both very cold in the winter.
Not sure how "the news" impacts that? I mentioned colder countries don't have any issues with EVs, dismissing your claim "that" was why they didn't sell in Japan.
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I never said weather was a factor in pathetic sale of EV in Japan
You literally did
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We're talking about 40% reduction when temperature gets cold. There is a reason why Tesla sale in Japan is pathetic.
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. Japan is into other tech such as hydrogen and fuel cell.
Again, why do you only post hilariously untrue things?
This was debunked just a few pages ago.
EVs vastly outsell Fool Cell cars in Japan. There's barely ANY sales of hydrogen and what few there were have utterly collapsed last couple years- because everyone understands it's a dead technology vastly inferior to BEV.
What do you hope to accomplish only posting grossly false claims?
Fool cell sales dropped by over 83% from 2021 through 2023--- In 2021, 2,464 fuel-cell electric vehicles (FCEVs) were sold in the country, but this fell by 65% to 848 in 2022, before halving again in 2023 to just 422 sales,
In contrast EV sales more than doubled — from 20,008 in 2021 to 31,592 in 2022, and to 43,991 in 2023
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The problem with buying a phone on wheels instead of an easily repairable machine means a reasonable probability your car will become a boat anchor if the manufacturer goes out of business.
Why? Amazon cut back their van orders already which is why Rivian is shopping them around hoping to find other customers.
They only own like 15-17% of the company, which while not nothing isn't a reason they'd continue throwing billions into a losing venture if Rivian can't turn things around sometime soon.
Rivian loses money the more trucks they sell right now- which is why they announced they're not increasing production at all this year-- they can't afford to.
They need to manage to stay alive long enough to get a next-gen product that's actually inherently profitable to market to survive.
I do generally like their stuff, so I hope they do, but it's not a sure thing.
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Nissan is trying to buy this company, my best friend works at Fisker as SVP and he just took them to Austria and entertained them as sales pitch.....
Already fallen through because Nissan realized there's nothing of value to buy. See below.
Hope your friends resume is up to date, they will need it soon.
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China will buy them out.
Why? Fisker doesn't own anything but the art design on the car. Everything else they outsourced to other companies.
Buying Fisker gets you nothing of value, and a lot of debt and warranty obligation.
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Which means they're interested in the IP. .
There is no IP besides the art design though. Hence why nobody was interested once they took a look.
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i'm not sure how i was being vague? the only way my post made sense is if someone overpaid for the model Y though? he asked what happened to the people that paid full price before the 40% cut. So I said just ask the people that overpaid and paid $80k for the model Y and now its 40k.
What exact did you think i was talking about? some mental gymnastics there...
Nobody ever paid 80k for a Model Y that is 40k now though.
The highest the price of the Y ever got was $69,990.
So just under 70k.
The same model today (performance model) is $53,490.
It was possible to get a $7500 tax credit (if you qualified) during at least some of the time the car was at both prices but that'd just move the price the same amount on both.
You COULD get to 82k if you add FSD to the higher price--- but of course you'd ALSO need to add it to the lower price too to compare apples to apples.
Also worth noting the high-point price wise was itself significantly elevated over the original pre-covid-supply-crunch pricing--- like everyone Tesla raised prices during that period, then dropped them back down after.... The best-selling trim of the Y for example is within $1000 of its original launch price in 2019 right now- but certainly had a much higher peak one during the supply crunch.
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most of the parts are from china its based on the chinese arcfox vehicle made by magna jv in China
You said most, then included a screen shot showing most of the parts are NOT from China
Certainly MANY parts are though- just like lots of cars on the market today (including most EVs). But the car itself is made in Austria--- which was the only clarification I was making to the other guy who claimed it was made in China.
LOL, Waiting for the rest to follow suit so the industry can focus on advanced Hybrid and Hydrogen tech. This Battery tech is a few decades away if that. They need to find a replacement for strip mining in Africa to make these "GREEN" car batteries.
It can solar charge 3-4 miles per day on bright sunny day. You will lose more than that because your car needs to stay up to take that charge. Model Y is most efficient as car can sleep when not in use.
Quite laughable really. I was talking to a friend who owns Model Y and asking him how many miles per kwh does the Model Y give. Tesla does not show this on he panel directly and instead give a bunch of BS like money saved, etc. Nissan Leaf gives me about 5 miles per kwh in spring and fall and about 4.3 miles per kwh in summer and winter.
We had to calculate the "mileage rate" of Tesla MY using total miles driven and power consumed, and it came to about 2.8 miles per kwh. So your "Tesla is the most efficient" claim is untrue. Remove your Tesla blinders and look outside; the world is a nice, bright place.
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https://www.comma.ai/openpilot
Open source. Works on a variety of vehicles depending on what kind of sensors they already have installed. Don't think that Tesla owns self driving.
Oh yeah and it's about $1500 and is transferrable. Compare that to Tesla's FSD which is $12k and they can/do strip that from the vehicle on resale.
Especially since they know now Fisker might go under
Some refuse to even insure EVs… so make sure you can before buying
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxwym-V_OYE
I would buy with confidence. Teslas have become too common like Civics. People want to stand out.
This was debunked just a few pages ago.
EVs vastly outsell Fool Cell cars in Japan. There's barely ANY sales of hydrogen and what few there were have utterly collapsed last couple years- because everyone understands it's a dead technology vastly inferior to BEV.
What do you hope to accomplish only posting grossly false claims?
https://www.hydrogenins
Fool cell sales dropped by over 83% from 2021 through 2023--- In 2021, 2,464 fuel-cell electric vehicles (FCEVs) were sold in the country, but this fell by 65% to 848 in 2022, before halving again in 2023 to just 422 sales,
In contrast EV sales more than doubled — from 20,008 in 2021 to 31,592 in 2022, and to 43,991 in 2023
Why? Amazon cut back their van orders already which is why Rivian is shopping them around hoping to find other customers.
They only own like 15-17% of the company, which while not nothing isn't a reason they'd continue throwing billions into a losing venture if Rivian can't turn things around sometime soon.
Rivian loses money the more trucks they sell right now- which is why they announced they're not increasing production at all this year-- they can't afford to.
They need to manage to stay alive long enough to get a next-gen product that's actually inherently profitable to market to survive.
I do generally like their stuff, so I hope they do, but it's not a sure thing.
Already fallen through because Nissan realized there's nothing of value to buy. See below.
Hope your friends resume is up to date, they will need it soon.
Buying Fisker gets you nothing of value, and a lot of debt and warranty obligation.
What exact did you think i was talking about? some mental gymnastics there...
The highest the price of the Y ever got was $69,990.
So just under 70k.
The same model today (performance model) is $53,490.
It was possible to get a $7500 tax credit (if you qualified) during at least some of the time the car was at both prices but that'd just move the price the same amount on both.
You COULD get to 82k if you add FSD to the higher price--- but of course you'd ALSO need to add it to the lower price too to compare apples to apples.
Also worth noting the high-point price wise was itself significantly elevated over the original pre-covid-supply-crunch pricing--- like everyone Tesla raised prices during that period, then dropped them back down after.... The best-selling trim of the Y for example is within $1000 of its original launch price in 2019 right now- but certainly had a much higher peak one during the supply crunch.
You said most, then included a screen shot showing most of the parts are NOT from China
Certainly MANY parts are though- just like lots of cars on the market today (including most EVs). But the car itself is made in Austria--- which was the only clarification I was making to the other guy who claimed it was made in China.
"LOL"
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We had to calculate the "mileage rate" of Tesla MY using total miles driven and power consumed, and it came to about 2.8 miles per kwh. So your "Tesla is the most efficient" claim is untrue. Remove your Tesla blinders and look outside; the world is a nice, bright place.
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