expiredGood2BCh13f posted Apr 02, 2024 03:15 PM
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expiredGood2BCh13f posted Apr 02, 2024 03:15 PM
Combo: Intel Core i7-13700K + MSI Z790-P Pro Motherboard + 32GB G.Skill DDR5-6000
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Here are my thoughts:
1. Asus board is better. I had issues with not recognizing nvme and slow boot time with MSI board. The MSI's default voltage is too high and causing high cpu temp, especially with enhanced turbo on. No issues with asus board although you need to get a nvme heatsink since it's not provided with the board.
2. I undervolted both CPUs. Set offset -0.070 and -0.05 and power limited 125w and 120w pl1/pl2 on 12900k and 13700k respectively. 12900k lost about 12% and 13700k lost about 18% in multi thread but the temperatures are <65 c under benchmark and still about 10% faster than 13600k. Gaming temp is around 50-55 c. Overall 13700k runs slightly hotter but still scores better than 12900k in multi thread.
If you are buying for gaming only, just get the 12900k. It's a lot cheaper and the fps is almost the same between these two CPUs.
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Here are my thoughts:
1. Asus board is better. I had issues with not recognizing nvme and slow boot time with MSI board. The MSI's default voltage is too high and causing high cpu temp, especially with enhanced turbo on. No issues with asus board although you need to get a nvme heatsink since it's not provided with the board.
2. I undervolted both CPUs. Set offset -0.070 and -0.05 and power limited 125w and 120w pl1/pl2 on 12900k and 13700k respectively. 12900k lost about 12% and 13700k lost about 18% in multi thread but the temperatures are <65 c under benchmark and still about 10% faster than 13600k. Gaming temp is around 50-55 c. Overall 13700k runs slightly hotter but still scores better than 12900k in multi thread.
If you are buying for gaming only, just get the 12900k. It's a lot cheaper and the fps is almost the same between these two CPUs.
The MSI motherboard has some nice features, but so does the ASUS and they are about equal and trade off on things that won't matter to most folks. 10 slots for SSD's on MSI compared to ASUS 7. 3 PCI slots compared to 4 on ASUS, but the graphics card will block one on ASUS.
My recommendation and what I did was go with the cheaper option and save $100.
Here are my thoughts:
1. Asus board is better. I had issues with not recognizing nvme and slow boot time with MSI board. The MSI's default voltage is too high and causing high cpu temp, especially with enhanced turbo on. No issues with asus board although you need to get a nvme heatsink since it's not provided with the board.
2. I undervolted both CPUs. Set offset -0.070 and -0.05 and power limited 125w and 120w pl1/pl2 on 12900k and 13700k respectively. 12900k lost about 12% and 13700k lost about 18% in multi thread but the temperatures are <65 c under benchmark and still about 10% faster than 13600k. Gaming temp is around 50-55 c. Overall 13700k runs slightly hotter but still scores better than 12900k in multi thread.
If you are buying for gaming only, just get the 12900k. It's a lot cheaper and the fps is almost the same between these two CPUs.
Will a noctua nh-d15 be enough to cool either of these? Stock ? Overclocked? Yes, my case is big enough and has plenty of ventilation.
Will a noctua nh-d15 be enough to cool either of these? Stock ? Overclocked? Yes, my case is big enough and has plenty of ventilation.
The Noctua NH-D15 should be fine, but would likely not be good enough for overclocking. Depends on your chip and undervoltage capabilities.
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